Thanks for the clatification. However, under the circumstances I don't see what better options there are. You're right, in hind sight, cedeing Gaza was a bad mistake and leaving the WB is probably worse. But what's the alternative? I say let's dig in in more defensable borders if it means having better capacity to thwart terrorist acts and leave the PALS kill each other.

I think you need to go back and study history especially the justifications used by the nazis to start WWII and perpetrate the Holocaust - they also claimed "resistance" against the "Jewish occupation of Aryan lands" - sound familiar? Be careful you don't slip into fascism. No attacks on civilians are justified - no matter what the cause.

Everybody knows we are a smart People, let's act it!

Israel on the one hand treats the Palestinians as if they are in an apartheid South Africa, but they are pathetically afraid to take any real action against the terr's that unceasingly fire rockets at the State. I don't understand the meaning of firing alomst 5000 explosive projectiles into empty fields. Do they really think the Palestinians even blink an eye lid !?

if we were 100% sure that if we offer the arabs all judea-samaria,all gaza(already done for nothing...),and east jerusalem,like before the 6 days war,then we will have a real peace for ever.even me that i'm in the far-right(the truth),i will say OK...let's give that barbarians all these JEWISH lands and we'll have peace for ever.peace for us and peace for them.but,my poor ellen!!!wake up,the hamas officially says that it's not enough for them and that they will continue terror till they get the whole so called "palestin".so,in fact they say they want ALL israel to make peace.do u think the jews will leave their only country? peace is IMPOSSIBLE with those barbarians and with their revendications.and about the security fence,it's very simple,if they were not murdering innocents,and if at least their "police" was trying to prevent terrorism,israel wouldn't need this fence!

politically there are no options: To kill the terror leaders only bring another head To wipe out all the terrorist parties in Israel will only create another To wipe out all the Pals from Israel will only create terror countries against Israel To not fight or retreat will only strengthen them and make them feel they are doing right and they will continue. I think the only solution now is if the govt of Israel decrees one day or even one hour or ten minutes in the near future for all Israelis to beseech the G-d of their fathers. To ask our G-d to save us from our enemies hands. And Those who seek to destroy us should not be successful. if it works that He will truly save us GREAT and if it doesn't work for we didn't merit to be saved then at least we tried.

The fact that you never say anything about terrorism and the hate education going on in the PA, but you never wait a second to criticize Israel, means that you have double-standards. When you hold certain standards for one society, but different standards for another society, this means you are prejudiced. Prejudice against Jews is called anti-Semitism, so yes, I think you are an anti-Semite, whether you know it or not. Furthermore, don't say you are anti-Zionist, but not anti-Jewish. Zionism is the Jewish belief, over 2000 years old, of returning and rebuilding Israel, so Zionism is part of Judaism and anti-Zionism = anti-Semitism. Israel was founded on Zionism, not on repression, poverty and walls. These things were brought on by Arab belligerence [3 wars launched against Israel], the exacerbation of the refugee problem by Arabs [the refusal of international Arab support and Arafat's refusal for statehood and an end to violence], and Arab tyranny [no need to elaborate]. What is important for you to know is that Israel was founded on the premise of rebuilding the Jewish nation, especially since Israel was our only option after the Holocaust. Without Israel, the Jewish people probably wouldn't exist today, but I know you are indifferent.

Namely, that Aron Barak & the Brancha allowed me to keep the $3million I stole as reward for disengagement.

Sorry pal but losing is not an option. We may beseach our G-D for intervention but until he does, lets protect our people as best we can. It is better to fight from a position of strength than to defend a weakened position.

Demand unconditional surrender and wait 1 week to see what happens. No water = No terror OR No Arabs

If only what you propose were possible. It will solve a lot of problems and make our friend Ellen Prescott extremely unhappy.

Have you decided whether or not you will speak up for the return of all the jewish property in the arab world including my home in bagdad? Or are you going to ignore me still...I know, it's hard to reply when you your beaten at a debate. I remember when bagdad was nearly 40% jewish. Remember, your a hypocrite.

I keep telling you. "Ellen" is really Eric Cartman, posting because he told me, "I can get more responses to my posts than you can on your lame Jew talkback forum." OK, he was funny to begin with, but now he is just freaking lame.

WIthout Ellen what are we going to do? Just sit around agreeing with each other all day? Are we going to get any smarter doing that? Ellen, I know exactly what you are actually trying to say: "The once powerful meaning of ...[anti-semitism]" = the old era when people didn't try to pick on Jews. I'll bet you can't wait, you B#$%$#!!

I am an israeli,Iam jewish,I came to israel in the height of his war of independence,from Paris to help.I served in the i.d.f till the end of the war.So I know what is war.I served in the second w.w.on the ostfront in a yewish forced laborcamp fallen in russian hands,and was 11 month long prisoner of the red army.I suffered from violent antisemitism in all of my young years.So if sombody knows what is antisemitism,and jew hating I know it .I saw the people of europa who were not interested in anything,not even in his own life,only to kill jews.In the last minutes,when the British american russian forces were in a few distance away,their only interest was to kill more jewish man women and children.They were not better than the arabs.They did everything,what the arabs want to do now.The arabs intention is the same even worst.They are also not interested in anything.only to kill more and more jews.They are against the wall.not for it beeing anywhere,but becouse thay know what it is built for.They know that Sharon anderstood,that Israel can't keep fighting the arabs eternally. He built the wall to make the arabs anderstand that the war is finished they want it or not.If they want to fight please fight with your heads against the stons.We want peace,we want work and a good living and we can do it without the arabs. Andihakfarsabai

The wall is not to lock in the arabs but to lock them out ! andi hakfarsabai

"Braces" in Israeli politics means: Choose one option only 1) Israel will sheepishly aim at specific people in a place where 90% are terrorists 2) Israel will sheepishly offer medication for free 2) Olmert-Perets will sheepishly offer Fatah arms to protect israelis 3) Limor Livnat will sheepishly offer arabs millions of dollars in "humanitarian" for subhumans so the world can look better at us 4) Prof Giora will sheepishly declare that every evil we get is well deserved 5) All the above answers are correct