The Bible says it's an abomination to be gay and for that sin one merits the death penalty. A great thanks for Rabbi Amnon to protest, it's the least thing we can do nowadays.

I totally agree with #8. What next? Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

I was asked have I seen a "Pride Parade?" Yes I have. I have seen them in Chicago, Baltimore, New York, San Franscisco, Montreal, Toronto, and Washington, DC. They are filled with all kinds of people; gay, straight, transgendered. There are doctors, lawyers, politicians, priests, rabbis, budhists, and more who attend and participate. There are bands, singers dancers, health educators, PAC's who are involved. There are families watching and having fun. I have also seen parades for holidays like Memorial Day, Thanksgiving Day, Mardi Gras. They each have their own style and people who attend. Though usually it's still the same groups that attend a gay parade. I have never seen a "Modesty Parade." I have no idea how that will work out. Will the same kinds of people attend? If you are offended by seeing men in women's clothing, two men or two women kissing, then I suggest you not attend a gay parade. If you are offended by seeing drunk heterosexuals attempting to fornicate in the street, avoid Mardi Gras. If you are offended by drunk people in general avoid parades all together. (Except perhaps the Modesty Parade.) A parade should be a celebration! If it is not in you to enjoy it, don't attend it. If you disagree with it don't attend it or peacefully protest it. I have no objection to protests of a peaceful nature. That's why I support both parades. I can not nor will not tolerate the idea that one group should be killed, or stuck down because the other group disagrees with them. Israel is a home to many people. They all have a right to be seen and heard. When Neo-Nazis wanted to march through Skokie Illinois, a predominatly Jewish suburb of Chicago, they were ultimately granted a permit to do so. They chose in the end to cancel their march but the message is clear. Defend the rights of those whom you disagree with and ensure your rights are protected. I would have marched in a counter demonstration had the Nazis held their march. I'm certain the counter march would have had many more attendees. Let's see who wins the battle of the Parades in Jerusalem

I'm a Jewish lesbian with a 10 yo son, and unless you embrace your gay and lesbian children, your going to lose them, their the same children you raised, love them as you did before they came out to you, you don't understand the pain and suffering children feel about this....

Funny, but I don't recall thinking much of you either, Abe. In truth, though, you just haven't interested me enough to remember you. I deliberately used language like "I guess" because I could not say "I know." I did assume, however, that anyone as vile as this "rabbi" would be vile across the board. My mistake. My scorn for this "rabbi" relates directly to what his web site is reported to be saying: "According to the site, “Two days before the date on which the vile souls are planning their World ‘March of Abomination,’ thousands of Jews whose souls have been saved and have chosen God’s path will hold a ‘Modesty march’ of incredible proportions. Its very occurrence will denunciate the abomination and defilement, will vomit out its participants from among us and will set fire to their infection." Hey, he has every right to march. Feel free to march with him under that banner. As for me, this "holy man" makes me want to vomit him from my consciousness and to set fire to him.

Yisraeli, as I said in my response to Abe, I never claimed to know about this rabbi. I am actually sorry that there is anything good about him. It's much easier when someone is a 100% scoundrel. As you cannot turn your back to the parade, feel free to turn your back to Jerusalem when the march goes forward, thus joining your Muslim brothers. As Kahane once said, "I love . . Jews . . . . . . It isn't . . easy."

shove your Christ? This is not about you and your missionary work.

I did not attend a Gay Parade, it was shown on the news channels. I did see part of a Mardi Gras parade because I was in town for business. I was disgusted by both. Yes I could refuse to "see" anything that I find offensive but then I would not be aware of much of what goes on in the world such as the slaughter of thousands in Africa, men women and children. Or the many in our world who will starve to death today. I would not be aware of the moral decline of the world's citizens, of crime running rampant, of child abuse and elderly abuse, etc. What then, should I stick my head in the sand and die? Again, my point is simply with our 'rights' come responsibility. I do believe in freedom of speech, etc. but I do not believe we should tolerate anyone who wishes to breakdown or destroy our quality of life and safety. Nor should anyone have the right to speak or do anything they wish unless they are willing to accept responsibility for their actions. One thing is very clear to me...few are willing to accept responsibility for their actions. We live in a world where the blame game seems to work for just about everyone. No one is responsible anymore for anything. Wisdom is far from us and our world shows it. Thank you for your response.

IF THE MAYOR OF MOSCOW COULD HAVE SAID THAT NO GAY PRIDE PARADE WILL EVER TAKE PLACE IN MOSCOW TO REFLECT THE IMMORALIYY OF THE WEST TO THE YOUTH OF HIS CITY, THEN HOW CAN THE MAYOR OF JERUSALEM ( the HOLIEST CITY IN THE WORLD FOR THE JUDEO CHRISTIAN AND MOSLEM WORLD ) NOT TAKE THE SAME POSITION?

Does your mother know you are gay, precious?

As a person who knows that the Bible stands against homosexuality, I am tired of being accused of being "fanatical, dark, pursuing strife and hatred." I am none of those things. I only wish those who say such things would pursue truth with humility instead of with the agenda of satisfying their unhealthy lifestyle without the guilt that naturally accompanies it.

Thanks to Rabbi Amnon Yitzhak and praise to HaShem. My spirit soars that he is taking up the battle against satan. Sodom and Gomorrha were destroyed in large part because every single man and boy was "gay." They were so arrogant and rebellious that they meant to rape angels. But, "The integrity of the upright shall guide them, but the willful contrariness and crookedness of the treacherous shall destroy them." Prov. 11:3 "They proclaim their sin like Sodom, they do not hide it." Isaiah 3:9 The prophet Jeremiah declared that Gd would pardon Jerusalem for the sake of one uncompromisingly righteous person. (5:1) Because of R.Amnon, Jerusalem will be spared.

Why do some of the marchers in these gay parades wear nazi paraphenalia? Is it like, some kind of fashion statement? You guys are so into tolerance and everything, why is it cool to dress like the SS?

Deborah, you say, "Again, my point is simply with our 'rights' come responsibility. I do believe in freedom of speech, etc. but I do not believe we should tolerate anyone who wishes to breakdown or destroy our quality of life and safety. Nor should anyone have the right to speak or do anything they wish unless they are willing to accept responsibility for their actions." With this I can agree. People with rights have a responsiblity to protect them. Not just for themselves but for those who have not the ability or the voice to be able to do so. On Pesach we are told the story of the "simple son" who has no capacity to ask. We are commanded to ask for him. With this all in mind would you deny rights to homosexuals because you disapprove of their love life? Would you deny them the right to march and proclaim their equaility with the rest of society? These are people who have given much to the world and only been shunned or killed for proclaiming who they love. You claim to have seen Pride Parades on the news. I can promise you that if I only saw Israel through the eyes of American, Canadian, or British media my views would be quite skewed. Media chooses extremeists upon which to focus. That is how they sell their product. I think you should actually see a parade in person before you pass judgement upon it. Look not just at the extremes but at the crowd as a whole. When I last was at the New York Pride Parade I was chuckling at the sight of men in tsit-tsit with their families picnicing on the parade route. Now I applaud them for being accepting of diversity within their community and teaching tolerance to their children. I have no objection to vilifying those who suspend decency and commit licentious acts in public. As long as that is a universally adhered to policy regardless of their sexuality. That said be clear that sex acts are taking place in public. I had quite an interesting view from my hotel room in Tel Aviv where I saw a man and a woman having sex on the beach. Independence Park in Jeruaslem is filled with orthodox men looking for a quick sexual encounter. Your comparison of a Pride Parade to slaughter and starvation in Africa and the world over is interesting. Would you be as quick to defend a homosexual who was being killed? That is what is happening in other parts of the Middle East and Africa just because people expressed their love for each other. That is what happened in Germany during WWII. Jews were not the only victims of the holocaust. Homosexuals were as well. "With rights comes responsibility." I call on you to be responsible. Allow a group of people the "right" to be heard. Allow them the "right" to be seen. World Pride's theme is "Love without Borders" what can you possibly have against love?

The Mayor of Jerusalem the holiest city in the Western World has the intelligence and sanity the Mayor of Moscow and you apparently lack.

if gays can march than so can haredim I wonder if I can organize a ''save the music industry from p-diddy or whatever he calls himself now'' march for next week?

Not only is the USA in danger from the world that no longer loves and respects God but the whole world is on a path of destruction,becasue of a small group of degernate people.

I am straight and married and have a number of gay friends. What I find abominal is this statement by the Rav : "Two days before the date on which the vile souls are planning their World ‘March of Abomination,’ thousands of Jews whose souls have been saved and have chosen God’s path will hold a ‘Modesty march’ of incredible proportions. Its very occurrence will denunciate the abomination and defilement, will vomit out its participants from among us and will set fire to their infection". I find this to be an extremely offensive and unacceptable statement from a supposedly learned scholar of Torah. This attitude is repugnant and un-jewish. Where is the tolerance and love our scared Torah teaches? Is there no place in your hearts to accept others who may be different than you. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!

Misspelling my screen name is a cheap trick, which already shows that you'd rather insult me than discuss as two Jews who differ do, with respect. Does my mother know I'm gay? Of course. My lover is welcome in their house and she agrees with me that I am lucky to have won the love of such a fine man. In case you're curious, my father, my one surviving uncle all my cousins and their children know I'm gay and consider my lover as part of the family. Oh yeah, my Rabbi knows too, and she certainly has no problem with it. You don't know me, so what's this "precious" nonsense about?

You say that the men of Sodom wanted to rape the angels and from that you learn that they were gay? Sorry Louise, from that I learn that they were rapists and evil, not that they were interested in forming life-long loving relationships with others of the same gender. Do you even know the difference between rape and loving commitment? Gay marriage is coming, inevitably, both to America and to Israel. You seem rather over-righteous in your own eyes. I pity your poor partner, if you have one.

"intellectual modesty" involves admitting something like, "the greatest rabbis and sages for the past 4000 years have all interpreted Vayikra 18:22 to mean the same thing, who am I to say they are wrong?" "intellectual arrogance" is "All the sages from the time of Mattan Torah until now are all WRONG and I am right because I have this URGE which I can't control." Isn't that right, precious?

Ok you're obviously semi-literate. Too bad you've never read the story of the GOLEM. It makes Frankenstein's monster appear tame. I suggest you respect the people with whom you debate on here. Gollum said, "precious" The Golem is very different. As to Vayikra etc. Isn't it nice that we have allowed laws to be reflective of current times? Or perhaps you would enjoy being stoned to death for breaking the Shabbat and using your computer? Should all adulterers or those who covet another man's wife undergo the same fate? Judaism is not a stagnent religion. Our laws change because the Torah and the Sanhedrin recognized that we also change as the world changes. It's on fundamentalists (of any religion) who don't embrace change and adapt. I just hope Darwin's theory holds true for them as well. Darwin vs. Breishiet...where are you on that Kyle

"It is time to understand Leviticus 18:22 in a new way, as our tradition haqs done so often and so brilliantly before, and for EVERYONE to learn a little modesty." Wait... you want to change around the Torah??? That's taking G-d's work and changing it around! There's nothing 'modest' about that!

Kyle, you said: ""intellectual arrogance" is "All the sages from the time of Mattan Torah until now are all WRONG and I am right because I have this URGE which I can't control." Please tell me where any gay person on this list talked about "Urges." Being gay is primarily about who you are, secondarily about whom you love and how you love them and only third comes whom you have sex with. While this is not a good forum to argue Orthodox vs Liberal interpretations of Torah, it would be disingenguous of you to pretend that there have been no changes in understandind of G-d's will as conditions changed. Or do you oppose allowing women in childbirth to have epidurals because they are "supposed" to bear in pain? Now as to "Precious." When a man addresses two public notes to me and calls me "precious" I can only assume that he is coming on to me. I don't know what your situation is, but I am a happily.married guy, and I am faithful to my partner. Besides, you really don't interest me very much. Quite frankly, you don't seem very bright.

Danny boy, I know the story of Rabbi Loew and his creation. I was making a play on words. If you prefer Darwin over the Torah, that's OK. So then admit that coupling which does not produce offspring is less likely to be naturally selected than coupling which does produce offspring. Precious, I am so happy that your mom accepts you and your partner! Gay gesunderheit! Kugs and kisses, sweetie!

"This attitude is repugnant and un-jewish. Where is the tolerance and love our scared Torah teaches? Is there no place in your hearts to accept others who may be different than you. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME! " Can you show me in the Torah where one should have tolernace for homosexuality?

When I was a kid, my dad (a rabbi) used to invite this guy (I will call him "Sammy") to our house for Shabbat. We kids all thought Sammy was, well, kind of queer, but we put up with him, because our dad told us that Sammy didn't have any friends. Sammy came to my bar mitzvah and he gave me an expensive watch. Some time after that, Sammy got tickets for the NBA playoffs and he invited me to go with him. I thought that was really cool! But my dad said no way. I said WHY? My dad said because Sammy didn't get tickets for my brothers and it wasn't fair to them. (continued in next post)

Begging and pleading didn't help, my mom and dad did not allow me to go to the NBA playoffs with Sammy. I was pissed off for a long time. Then I went away to yeshiva. When I came home, I went to shul, there was Sammy. "Oh you are so big, you are so grown up!" By that time I realized he was coming on to me. Sammy had tickets for another game, I said I wasn't interested. Then I found out Sammy was not welcome in my family's home. He had been spreading rumors that my mom and dad were having marital problems and were separating (not true!) My mom had banned Sammy from our house.

I remember my Dad getting called by Sammy in the middle of the night, where Sammy allegedly had ingested an overdose of some medicine, and my dad was the only one he wanted to talk to. The second time this happened, my dad said that he wasn't a mental health professional and he recommended Sammy should see a psychologist and stop calling us. I felt sorry for Sammy and I came to realize that he "had the hots" for my dad and for me and my older brothers and he was very manipulative. Sammy is not welcome at our house any more because my mom is just too creeped out from him. This means we are a whole family of "homophobes" "in denial" because we don't want to give dear Sammy what he desires. I kind of feel sorry for Sammy.

What an interesting story, Kyle. Obviously quite untrue. While some pedophiles do marry as a cover for their activities, it is very rare for a pedophile to be gay in the sense of looking for adults of their own gender. Either a person is attracted to children, usually gender is more a question of opportunity, or to form adult relationships, same or opposite gendered. What you appear to have done is to string a group of stereotypes about gay people and pedophiles together and come up with complete fiction. (That's the nice word for it) As for your attempt at explaining evolutionary biology, maybe a species that produces some adults without children of their own, may in fact enjoy evolutionary advantages, both in child rearing and in defense and food acquisition for the whole tribe. Let me ask you the same question you asked me. Does your Mommy know that you are a liar and a bully? Is she proud of you? Does she know that you have snuck into Daddy's computer again?