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Morality requires: Hurt hostile population
Yisrael Rosen
Published: 22.06.06, 14:52
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61. To Rabbi Rosen - on Jewish "tradition"
Marlene ,   New York City   (06.24.06)
You epitomize what shames me to be a Jew. What did you expect from a population of people that you have brutally occupied for decades, that you brutally oppress. Shame on you. You have forgotten the history of your own oppressed past. Notwithstanding such barbaric cruelties carried out by Israel is the racist society which Israel is and for which you are a part.
62. I'm ashamed also No. 53....
Marlene ,   New York City   (06.25.06)
You are not alone.
63. Thank you for the David and Goliath reference "Rabbi"
Marlene ,   New York City   (06.25.06)
Because the Palestinians are truly today's Dav id and Israel is the Goliath! I put quotes around the word "Rabbi" because you do not represent anyone I would wish to call a Rabbi.
64. The Rabbi gives his validation to racism and bigotry
Marlene ,   New York City   (06.25.06)
This is the same Rabbi who said in 1994...." I have a Jewish sociopolitical point of view. For me, total equality in the Jewish state between Jews and non-Jews is not necessary." This Rabbi by his own words denies the oppression of Jews in history and sanctions all vile racism that has been prevalent on this earth. Better for YNET to have someone from Rabbi for Human Rights write an article like Rabbi Arik Ascherman. Rosen's article makes me truly sick.
65. Thank you for the quote No. 31
Marlene ,   New York City   (06.25.06)
"All people, Jews or gentiles, who dare not defend themselves when they know they are in the right, who submit to punishment not because of what they have done but because of who they are, are already dead by their own decision; and whether or not they survive physically depends on chance. If circumstances are not favorable, they end up in gas chambers." Exactly...and so the Palestinians who are the brutally oppressed and brutally occupied, and dispossesed from their lands, must defend themselves., or else they will wind up as others were once. There is certainly enough grafitti which expresses that which the Israeli authorities don't even bother to clean up. Are these the lessons of the Holocaust? Some photos from the Christian Peacemaker's Team in Hebron. http://www.cpt.org/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album03&page=1
66. #54
Michael ,   Tel Aviv   (06.25.06)
Whatever. Does not change my point. Your comment does not really bring us any further.
67. Show the picture of killed Shalhevet Pass, Ynet!
Gerd Schulz ,   Germany   (06.25.06)
68. Ariel and Marlene; I'm very proud to be a Catholic Zionist!
Daisy ,   USA   (06.25.06)
I love Israel and it's great contributions to humanity! God bless Israel always!
69. Gentle Yisrael Rosen, man of God
alterkocker ,   ireland   (06.25.06)
Recommend what you will, you hate-filled creature, but don't lump in every other country as thinking the way you do. If you speak for Israel, so be it, but you have not the right speak for anyone else in an attempt to add moral authority to your rabid views. This is only what the Israeli Jew means by 'intellectual argument', I hope. Someone please the rest of the world that the vast majority of jews do not think and feel the way this monster of a rabbi preaches.
70. To a "proud Catholic Zionist" ----- 68
Lois D. ,   Baltimore   (06.25.06)
It just goes to thankfuly prove that all Zionists are not Jews, and that all Jews are not Zionists, just the way all Germans were not Nazis, and all Nazis were not Germans.
71. #70
alterkocker ,   ireland   (06.25.06)
'Too right', as the decent Aussies used to say. Rosen glibly suggests other countries would behave as he suggests Israel should behave, yet in most of the countries he mentions, and most certainly in Britain, he would be jailed for racism and incitement to violence. And the British jew would be the first and last to seek redress were words to be spoken against him, be he Arab or anyone else.
72. to Michael in TA #1
Hilda ,   USA   (06.25.06)
You are wrong. Ethics and Morality means that you protect yourself. Judaism says that if the enemy comes to murder you then you should kill him. Your sympathies are wasted on the Palestinian Arabs who will kill you as well as the right winger whom you dispise. Would yu rather they blow you and your family up? I guess your children have not been affected. and noone you know was killed at the TA kiosk.
73. to#47 from Medhat wonderinjg
Medhat ,   Gaza   (06.25.06)
Thanks God that you are not treating feeding and arresting the rest of the globe in your five stars prisons. think of a way that children has nothing to do where ever they are , think that it is only one God created all these children regardless of their nationalities be a human for the sake of God if you beleive in him
74. Well said 70 and 71!
Marlene ,   New York City   (06.25.06)
How dare this Rabbi even speak of "morality." Morality does not support brutal and oppressive occupations nor does morality treat people according to their identity, nor does morality disposses people from their homes and lands because they are not the proper identity. Morality does not sanction racism and bigotry which this Rabbi clearly supports. It is Rosen's kind of teachings that are incitement to racism and what Yigal Anir used to justify his assassination of Prime Minister Rabin who had become the enemy.
75. Dual morality lets to kill civilians in name of peace
Edward ,   Warsaw POLAND   (06.26.06)
In spite of words: You have to kill your enemy first there is a supreme God commandment: "YOU SHALL NOT KILL !!!". By building a concrete wall Israel sends the clear signal to all Palestinians - All of You are the enemy .. Does rabbi's Thorah interpretation lets the IDF to kill all of them ? The God let you to kill in defence ... however its a human nature to misuse his right to defence in name of his own so called interest. His interest becomes not a God one so He just uses Gods words to kill !!! There is not worse sin than that one .. Its IDF that has more sophisticated weapon than Palestinian. Its Israel that has more destructive power .. You can use it or not so you can also STOP IT first .. Remeber: You SHALL NOT KILL - the rest is ambigious.
76. Rabbi Rosen's column justifies Pals
(06.26.06)
This column is being circulated among Palestinian lists to justify their attacks agaisnt Israel and its soldiers. The Bible justifies the killing of innocent civilians in order to defend Palestinian rights. And so the viciousness continues. This is how it all started in Germany. We've heard these words before, not all prettied up by stripped of veils and dripping with venom as this column is soaked in venom.
77. rosen, you are sinning.
jay vaughan ,   germany   (07.16.06)
any human calling for the slaughter of another human is a sinner. there is no excuse for israeli aggression. you profess to know history: where in history has war ever brought peace to a land, save the destitute form? there is no honor in israel 'defending itself with death and more death'. there is honor only in those who would wage peace, above all, before they would wage war. show me where the israeli has made peace with the palestine. show me where the money you spend on bombs and weapons from your american compatriates is instead spent on peace, prosperity, hope and growth for your fellow man, regardless of race, creed, or religious belief. show me where 1/5th of the cost of one of your weapons was used to bring hope to children. show me once, where you raise your children to respect the sanctity of human life, regardless of race, creed, or tribal membership. your words are cheap, 'rabbi'. your thousand year old words, so carefully selected, kill. bring new hope to the world: make peace 3 times more than you would war. until then, you are a sinner.
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