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Minister: Accidents happen, but Qassam fire war crime
Ronny Sofer
Published: 22.06.06, 17:32
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1. Charge Abbas as a war criminal.
Avraham ,   Netivot   (06.22.06)
If they stop shooting kassams at us, guess what? We will stop shooting back in self defence. Simple solution.
2. War Crime
Cynic ,   USA   (06.22.06)
The firing of rockets from densely populated area knowing that retaliation will kill civilians is the biggest war crime of all. The Pals have sacrificed their children for 50 years to score propaganda points.
3. Qassams aren't candy bombs
Chrisona ,   Chicago.IL   (06.22.06)
"firing 40 Qassams a day on Sderot and trying to intentionally kill civilians is a war crime." Not even. Actually it's terrorism.
4.  war crime
khalled ,   kibanon   (06.22.06)
this is not a battle,f16 against people is a war crime
5. Crime against Humanity the PA does acc. to
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (06.22.06)
The international organization Doctors of the World, (Medicins Du Monde) has qualified the attacks by Palestinian terror organizations against Israelis as "crimes against humanity". The report also concludes that "the Palestinian Authority cannot deny any responsibility, at least because of it's ambiguous attitude towards those groups until now." Where was /is the UN to follow this under criminal court actions ? Have we missed same ? We never see the UN ever deploring the attacks in any resolution and demanding The NONE STATE PLO/PA run by a terrorists organization - Hamas - Never being upset about Arab Palestinians performing for over 77 years terrorism against Israel/Jews . How come ? How come the UN don't force the PA/PLO to stop terrorism under resolutions via the Security Council and put on trial those who perform Terror Acts and what the Medicins Du Monde proclaimed as crimes against humanity ? The Arab attacks came long before Israel started to defend their people which Israel has a duty to do under Intl. Law the Arabs have to stop playing the victim when THEY are the original Aggressor Further more the PA/PLO should be held for crimes against humanity against Their own people: Their Child Abuse: http://kjbbn.net/Child%20Abuse%20in%20the%20name%20of%20palestine.htm http://www.israelnewsagency.com/terrorchildren.html http://www.pmw.org.il/indoctrinaying%20%20children%20to%20violence.htm
6. trying to intentionally kill civilians is a war crime. DUH..
DANNY ,   America   (06.22.06)
Evil doesnt care and evil men support evil. UN Reps, I am talking about most of you! Hell is going to be bad, Duh... again
7. "The OPEN CITY" or "CITY FRTRESS" choice is on the LOCALS to
Nebojsa Yitzchak M ,   Toronto   (06.22.06)
During the time of war (an id it is obviously a war since those Nazis are shooting 40 missiles against the Jewish CIVILIANS.. EVERY DAY) city in the line of combat could be declared “THE OPEN CITY” or “CITY FORTRESS” under the Geneva Convention. The “Open City” will provide the promise and guarantee from the local authorities that city will not be used for hostilities against the advancing army, the forces entering the city will receive a full cooperation from the local authorities to prevent any hostilities directed at the forces entering the city. FORTRESS CITY is city where military formation chooses to use for its military operations against the other side’s military formations. IT IS IMPERATIVE that local authorities do EVERYTHING possible to take the local population from the HARMS WAY. Those are rules of engagement at time of hostilities that every civilized nation subscribes to.
8. Responsibility and ACCOUNTABILITY at times of war
Nebojsa Yitzchak M ,   Toronto   (06.22.06)
Utilization of LOCAL civilians for PROPAGANDA “gains” is nothing new, Muslims were using the same tactics in Yugoslavia by lobbing mortars and “tromblon” (rifle-muzzle attached mortar like missile) at markets, schools, and the funeral processions which were caught even by CNN). NOW it is IMPERATIVE on international community to either EMBRACE and reward such a behavior by going into the HYSTERICAL tantrums of politically predisposed media to UTILIZE victims for a political gains. Thus “VICTIMS” become MILITARY ASSET of one warring faction and victims will be utilized in the future as a unconventional military weapon. International community could be judge or partner in crime depending on decision would it condemn combat formation (terrorists) that uses local population as a “shield” or even worse a CIVILIAN POPULATION USED AS A “PROPAGANDA FODDER” it is up to the international community to make such a choice. It is up to Israel to do EVERYTHING possible to defend ITS CIVILIAN POPULATION from the TERRORIST BANDITRY which targets its CIVILIAN POPULATION. If they chose to hide and to shoot from Arab hospital, they are targets not hospital, but hospital is put at the HARMS WAY by the local goons that have absolute support from the local population (Hamas victory >90%?). So it is widely adapted means of warfare by that community. By example in Beirut in January through February USS Battleship New Jersey opened fire on local snipers. Arab snipers were making potshots at US, French and Italian coalition forces. From the friendly neighborhood, US responded with 406mm shells (16” 1225kg high explosives “block busters”). All of a SUDDEN there was REAWAKENING of the “local NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH” and character that had intention to snipe on US or coalition forces was found in peaces next morning. By the courtesy of the local “concerned citizenry”. People DO have a COMMON SENSE, it is up to all of as to give them a chance to DISCOVER IT.
9. Like Golda Meir said:
Israeli   (06.22.06)
"There will only be peace once the arabs will start loving their children more than they hate us." No better way to describe it.
10. The world is blinded by.....
Ram ,   London   (06.22.06)
oil, money, bias, antisemitism and jealousy. Israeli leaders lack determination, courage, PR, willpower and rationale. They pursue the " I am a nice guy" and "superior morality" syndrome. They do not realise "it doesn't make a blind bit of difference". Focus on the safety of its citizens should be paramount to Israel's leaders. Not world opinion. A 10 fold retaliation with a well worded short statement, to the world media, to follow, will suffice.
11. #4.
Ram ,   London   (06.22.06)
Then who is the idiot here? In case you do not understand, why start with an enemy that is a zillion times more powerful?
12. Hear, hear
JJ ,   Europe   (06.22.06)
Palis just try to kill Israelis. They don't make difference between civilians and IDF personnel!
13. 4 khalled: wake up to real crimes:
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (06.22.06)
The international organization Doctors of the World, (Medicins Du Monde) has qualified the attacks by Palestinian terror organizations against Israelis as "crimes against humanity". The report also concludes that "the Palestinian Authority cannot deny any responsibility, at least because of it's ambiguous attitude towards those groups until now."
14. To #9
Samir ,   Morocco   (06.22.06)
How do you want arabs not hating you if you don't stop these daily killings. the killing of civilians is just creating more hatred among next arab generations toward israel and the prolongation of the conflict for decades.
15. I like this article/policy announcement very very much
Alan ,   SA   (06.22.06)
16. #10. The world is not blinded!!
Tamar ,   Israel   (06.22.06)
THEY JUST LACK THE COURAGE (BALLS) TO TELL THE TRUTH. And when push comes to shove, they simply don't CARE TO. The world is terrified of the street and the dictatorial leaders of that street to which they pander. And why do they pander beyond fear is what this truly boils down to. It is the darkest uglist part of all civilization. Jewish blood. Has it ever meant anything to anyone? Lying for thieving terrorist murders is more important! Whitewashing for those thieving terrorist murders takes precedence each and every time. We as Jews have been punished for lack of balls and courage by world leaders to speak the truth since time immemorial. They hate us for who we are and what we are. No matter what our humanity and contribution to humankind. When one stops and thinks American administrations have kept the Palestinian question alive for whom and why? You hit on part of it, but the real question as to 'why' is most sour and ugly. It is the unthinkable. 2006 and hate for Israel and Jews is at an all time crescendo. People love to blame the left and the media for this forgetting 'WHO' in high places sets this tone so they the left and the media can deliver their biased messages. To even imagine there is a US led quartet whose members are the UN, EU and Russia simply does not make sense. However it tells a very revolting story indeed. To imagine that the lying terrorist Palestinians led by Arafat and Abbas have been whitewashed to the point of nausea for what reasons is truly unthinkable. To imagine the US and world powers have done nothing but twist the arms of Israel with threats of embargo's boycotts and sanctions throwing them deeper into pariah status is like a steaming hot knife right center in ones heart. When it comes to Israel and the Palestinians in comparison to the War on Terror, *reward for terror for those who incubate and protect terror and all which it encompasses* is indeed the soup du'jour! As long as there are Jews and bullies of Jews who are the ones with the real power, Jews will suffer. As long as the powers that be continue to reward and lie for those who slaughter Jews it might as well be the dark ages or the 30's. When it comes to honoring and speaking truth in relation to Jews, civilization has gone nowhere. Those of us who suffered through the Shoah and all which it incompassed to witness a world who didn't care then to come to Israel to witness this again and again and again defies human thought. We lost then and we continue to light candles for those whom we lost again. I know. Non of this makes sense --> until closer inspection. Sadly, inspection goes only as far as one dares it to.
17. #14
meni ,   beersheva   (06.22.06)
listen to what haim ramon is saying -- these qassams are INTENTIONALLY trying to kill civilians. that is the BIG difference...the killing of arab civilians is not intention, it is a byproduct of trying to hit people who are launching qassams. THINK!!
18. #14
Jane   (06.22.06)
Stop the rockets.
19. Finaly, intelligent words spoken!
Arie   (06.22.06)
20. WELL SAID MR RAMON,BRAVO.
stephane ,   france   (06.22.06)
thank you mr ramon to remind our ennemies the huge difference between us and the arabs:when israel strike he tries to kill terrorists with guns and not terrorists without guns(that some people call "civilians").but when arabs send quassam everyday,they pray that this rocket will fall on women and kids in sderot.god bless tsahal,and if soldiers read this talckback,i want to tell you that jews around the world are very proud of you.
21. To 14
Da dude   (06.22.06)
"How do you want arabs not hating you if you don't stop these daily killings. the killing of civilians is just creating more hatred among next arab generations toward israel and the prolongation of the conflict for decades." So please explain me the morroccan occupation and killing of civilians in the spanish sahara isn't causing the saharans to launch 40 kassams daily? Or please explain me why you tolerate the occupation of your land of ceuta by the Spanish who kill anyone who comes close to the wall surrounding the border?
22. Minister: Quassams, war crimes, #4, 14
Dany ,   Canada   (06.22.06)
Your OFFICIAL war CRIMES started in 1947(YOUR WAR CRIMES have been going even before), against MY PEOPLE), when the UN with a HUGE MAJORITY, DECIDED for 2 countries. WHY DID YOUR BROTHER'S surrounding countries START THE WAR CRIMES, THEN? ALL YOU Palestinians LOST YOUR PART of the COUNTRY, by the PROMISES of your Brothers. These, YOUR, WAR CRIMES have been going since then. We don't care if you hate us. This is OUR COUNTRY & ALL of YOU will pay dearly. Stop living in 1001 Nights Stories & stop YOU WAR CRIMES against us. You 2 & the OTHER ARABS must be out of your minds, accusing US of WAR CRIMES. This P.R. -ACTUALLY THE TRUTH- should have been started years & years ago.
23. TO JUSTIC MINISTER HAIM RAMON !
AVINU   (06.22.06)
THANK YOU. YOU ARE HONEST MAN.
24. #14: So what is your proposal?
Israeli   (06.22.06)
To stop attacking and just get attacked? or maybe to give them land and still get attacked (see gaza)? If they loved their children more than they hate us, they wouldn't have sent their children to die while knowing we're more capable of killing than them. They know they can't win militarily but they still try. That's a war crime. They send their children to die. We wouldn't have a reason to bomb them if they hadn't terrorized us. Think about it.
25. to Da Dude
Karim ,   Morocco   (06.23.06)
The Sahara is not Spanish, It was colonized by them and then they left. It is claimed by the native Sahrawi people are their own. They refuse to be part of Morocco. I understand their claim and I also understand that they are free to refuse to be Moroccans. If the Moroccan government mistreats them the way the racist apartheid Israeli gov does to Palestinians, I would expect attacks on our cities. The Moroccan government offers Sahrawi Moroccan citizenship and equal treatment. Does the Israeli government offers the same to Palestinians??? Heck no. All it offers them is a one way ticket, a deportation ticket from their homes so racist fundamentalist settlers can reclaim their God given land! As to Ceuta and Mellilia, well Spain held 2 cities since the 16th century. Unlike your fanatics, we can bring the world back to before the 16th century. Besides the residents of those cities want to be Spanish.
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