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IDF enters Gaza, nabs 2 Hamas members
Ali Waked
Published: 24.06.06, 11:32
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1. kol hakavod, idf.
Gerd ,   Germany   (06.24.06)
2. Good job, but why risk lives? target MFs
Ron ,   LA   (06.24.06)
Eyewitnesses claimed that the troops also beat the detainees' father >>> What about their mother?<<<
3. Thank you Tzahal.
Alan ,   SA   (06.24.06)
4. IDF in Gaza
Pnina Moed Kass ,   Herzliya, Israel   (06.24.06)
Between a rock (a failed targeted assasination) and a hard place (an IDF soldier getting killed) it seems the strategy is to suit the tactic to the target. Is there a better choice?
5. bravo tsahal!
stephane ,   france   (06.24.06)
bravo because tsahal know if it's better to eliminate terrorists or to catch them alive.if they choose to catch them alive,they must have "interesting" stories to tell the army...and bravo for the father,it's a good souvenir for him.
6. #2
meni ,   beersheva   (06.24.06)
disgusting comment u should be ashamed
7. Taking them alive has many advantages for They can obtain
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (06.24.06)
important information - as the article did mention
8. Simple fact
Ali ,   Saudi Arabia   (06.24.06)
The IDF is doing nothing but infaming the anger of the palestinians and pouring fuel to the fire, this stupid government is forcing the palestinians to strike back, so to escalate the conflict and gain more politically on the price of the blood of the two nations.
9. # 8 Yes, your "fact" is SIMPLE.
Gerd ,   Germany   (06.24.06)
10. Ali, your "security forces" shot 6 people the other day
Rob ,   UK   (06.24.06)
Is that inflaming tensions too?
11. #8
AG ,   Beersheva   (06.24.06)
Regardless of the actions of the IDF on Saturday, there would still be Qassams fired on Sunday.
12. 8 Ali : The Saudis don't allow freedom of speech is that why
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (06.24.06)
you come to Jewish websites or is it that education has NOT hit your intellect yet: Now Stop posting crap and BS Another fact you have not learned - little Ali The term "Palestinian" is itself a masterful twisting of history. To portray themselves as indigenous, Arab settlers adopted the name of an ancient Mediterranean tribe, the Philistines ("Invaders" in Hebrew), that disappeared out over almost 3000 years ago. The connection between this tribe and modern day Arabs is nil. Romans, in order to conceal their shame and anger with rebellious regions, changed the references to Judea and Samaria by naming them Palestine. 1. Nationhood and Jerusalem - Israel became a nation in the 14th century B.C.E. Two thousand years before the rise of Islam. 2. Since 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for up to 1,000 years with a continuous Jewish presence in the land for the past 3,300 years. 3. The only Arab dominion since the Arab invasion and conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years. 4. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem. 5. For over 3,000 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital and Arab leaders did not come to visit. 6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. 7. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray facing Mecca (often with their backs toward Jerusalem). 8. In 1854, according to a report in the New York Tribune, Jews constituted two-thirds of the population of that holy city. 9. In 1867, Mark Twain took a tour of Palestine. This is how he described that land: A desolate country whose soil is rich enough but is given over wholly to weeds. A silent, mournful expanse. We never saw a human. 10. In 1882, official Ottoman Turk census figures showed that, in the entire Land of Israel, there were only 141 000 Muslims, both Arab and non-Arab. 11. A travel guide to Palestine and Syria was published in 1906 by Karl Baedeker; estimated the total population of Jerusalem at 60,000, of whom 7,000 were Muslims, 13,000 were Christians and 40,000 were Jews. 12. In 1922, with what was widely acknowledged as the illegal separation of Transjordan, the Jews were forbidden to settle on almost 77% of the Palestine, while Arab settlement went unrestricted and encouraged by British mandatory authority. Did you know that YOUR Saudi Arabia was not created until 1913, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lebanon until 1920? Iraq did not exist as a nation until 1932, Syria until 1941; the borders of Jordan were established in 1946 and Kuwait in 1961. Any of these nations that would say Israel is only a recent arrival would have to deny their own rights as recent arrivals as well. They did not exist as countries. They were all under the control of the Turks. Over 80% of the original British Mandate land was given to Arabs without population transfer of Arabs from the land designated for Jews.
13. Saudis: the only export They have is TERRORISM and OIL
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (06.24.06)
oil is soon to go - the terrorism we'll wipe out 15 of 9/11 terrorists were SAUDIS remember that ? You are a nation of HATE and human rights abuses: Christians arrested in Saudi Arabia http://groups.msn.com/EretsYisraelLeAmYisrael/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=7312&LastModified=4675577691854221879 By the way I am sure you are in deep despair since your buddy al-Zarqawi has met those 72 virgins they must be running out of virgins up there soon
14. #12 and #13 you are arrogant and mean
I ,   usa   (06.24.06)
Dear Gabriella, You are extremely arrogant and mean. I can easily call you an extremist. What if I tell you that my husband is Palestinian, huh? Are we both terrorists? I can tell you that I never met as sweet a man like him before. He is very caring and passionate. And yes he loves his country. Is it a crime? You can't call a whole nation terrorist. And it is the same with Saudi Arabia or any other arab country. And shut up with your history lesson. The fact is that Jews came and settled down there, despite the fact that arabs lived there. In fact: 1878- 1904 The first wave of jewish settlers immigrate to Palestine from Europe under the banner of Zionism. The Zionist movement considers Palestine uninhabited, despite the fact that almost half a million arabs live there. These were mainly Moslems, with a Christian minority. (Arrogant Jews. They simply consider a land uninhabited just because there are not too many people live there) 1899- 1902 Arab- Jewish tension following large Jewish land purchases in the region. Palestine is the biggest jail in the world thanks to Israel, USA and Europe. Just look into a Palestinian person's eye, but not with your hatred, but as a human. You will see everything. They are desperate, and yes they are loving. And yes, there are people there who do crime as well. But you can't punish a whole nation for that and declare that everybody is a terrorist. Peace
15. #14(i) the zoophil...
stephane ,   france   (06.24.06)
this is how i call women like u married to arabs...12 and 13 are busy?? never mind,there will always be a jew to answer and to throw the truth to your face! to start,you're lucky that i'm french,so my english is not perfect...but you will pay anyway for what you say about the best people on this planet...you think that you understand the so-called "palestinians" because your husband told you his history? but that's wrong,you believe in what he tells because you're married to him.if you were with a chechen you would hate the russians,if you were with a croatian you would hate serbs...i know what kind of woman you r.you r NOTHING,you have no personality,that's why you're husband can make you believe in his lies and propaganda.ha!by the way,i want to remind you that on 9/11,when your brothers and sisters were dying in the towers,the family of your arab were singing and dancing in gaza! so you're NOTHING + a TRAITOR...you speak about jews in israel since 1878,but you know nothing,jews have always been there NONSTOP since more than 3200 years.the arabs never wanted or asked for independence when romans were there,never during ottoman's period there,never during british mandat there.you know why? because they knew that they will leave cause israel is not their land.they only wanted this country when a big immigration of jews started to come,cause this time they were really worrying.you know why? because they knew that this time it's not foreigners,they knew that the real owners of this land are coming back.and we're here today and for ever.the pals are only arabs,if you check well their origins you will see that the pals from gaza are egyptian(so they should go back to their country)and the pals from judea samaria are from jordan(so they should go back to their country).israel is the only land in the world that if you digg you found hebrew manuscrits,one more prove that it's the jewish state.in the torah which is more than 5700 years old,the words "israel" and "jerusalem" are written hundreds of time.in the quuran(which is only about 1470 years old)they don't write even once the name of jerusalem!!! so what? this arrogant people just born and they want our land? and don't tell me that these barbarians are "human"!i will just give you an example:you remember what the crowd of pals did to the 2 israeli soldiers who lost their way and entered the barbarians area? they lynched them so hard that it was impossible to the doctors to identify the bodies of those poor fathers! you should be ashame to be married to a pal and to support them.shame on you;you're a disgusting person who doesn't understand nothing of what's going on there.
16. Arab lies, as usual.
Uzziel   (06.24.06)
It appears that the beating story is another arab fabrication. Beside, why nobody informs that the "beaten" father of the 2 "angels", Ali Muammar, is yet another Hamas senior official, then a terrorist himself?
17. #14- Dear "I"
Uzziel   (06.24.06)
First the bad news for your husband, then the worst for you: 1- Your husband is not a "palestinian", he is an arab. The jewish people are the real Palestinians. And it is the whole community of arab settlers in Israel that are deservedly earning the terrorist label by electing a terror organisation like Hamas and consistently backing the murder of civilians in the polls by margins as high as 76%. 2- Since you are talking about personal matters, I inform you that the arab "men" that are so apparently caring (in order to gain the confidence of their victims) and "PASSIONATE" often have huge mood swings and you can find yourself in an airport with your husband saying goodbye to you, while you carry a suitcase full of explosives.This happened in the past. And if he´s muslum and his passion cools down, remember, they have the right to take up to 4 wives. Salam, and now you are warned.
18. #14; Fact is Palestinians chose a terror organization to
(06.24.06)
lead them. This means the majority support terrorism and as all terror supporters they must pay. Either they knock down the government and show that they oppose terrorism or they will keep on suffering.
19. PAKIZ RULE
PAKI 4 LIFE   (06.24.06)
PAKIZ RULE AND ISRAEL DOSNT STAND A CHANCE AGAINST US COZ WEHAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONZ ASSWELL DONT FORGET AND REMEMBER U ISRAELIZ DONT EXIZT U WILL ' BE WIPED OUT BY A SINGLE STORM' AS SHEIKH MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD SAID
20. # 14 Maybe not all Arabs are terrorists,
Ginette Golden ,   Toronto, Ontario   (06.24.06)
But you for sure, sound like one. Your hubby is a pali, good for him. I am sure he is an honest man. However, stop attacking Gabrielle! she is a fountain of knowledge. You are just getting hyper due to your own lack of knowledge, and that makes you jealous! As for your numbers on Arab population, you write: 1878- 1904 The Zionist movement considers Palestine uninhabited, despite the fact that almost half a million arabs live there. These were mainly Moslems..." You are so full of it girl, your eyes must be brown. Talking about eyes... you suggest "just look into a Palestinian person's eye" Funny, all I can see when I look is HATE!
21. Two Down, 1million To Go
Joe ,   iSRAEL   (06.24.06)
Stop congratulating yourselves on the capture of two suspected terrorists. Anyone who feels more secure by the fan-fare accompanying the arrest of suspected terrorists is fooling themselves.
22. Good job! much better than stupid tayas!
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23. to #15, 17, 20
I ,   usa   (06.25.06)
I am amazed by the hatred you people have. But I am not surprised. First to Stephanie: I am not ashamed at all. Why would I be? You should be ashamed of yourself calling me disgusting. You don't even know me. What are you talking talking about "they want our land"? You live in France, or are you a Jew? Why don't you go to live in Israel then? The other thing. I don't hate anybody. I was born in Hungary, grew up there, had to learn russian for years, under occupation, but still don't hate any Russians. And I have friends from all over the world. Of course everybody has different opinion, but that doesnt mean we have to hate each other. Two of my cousins are jewish, and one of them even served in the jewish army. Now what? Should we stopped talking to each other becasue their cousin married a Palestinian. Intelligent people can deal with family and other matters in an intelligent way. I am sure you Stephanie couldn't. Reading your hate filled letter, I can just laugh at you. and dear Uzziel, Thanks for your warning. Dude I am so afraid now. I can't sleep at night, and biting my nails. If you are so smart, you should know that: yes arabs can have 4 wifes, but only if the first wife agrees, and if he has enough money to support all of them. None of the men in his family has more than one wife. And my husband and his family didn't vote for hamas, but they can do? I didn't vote for Bush here either, and still don't like him as the majority of the country now. What can we do? And dear Ginette, I don't really care if your Gabrielle is full of knowledge, or full of crap. She is mean. And if you really look at a Palestinian's eye, you would see your HATE towards them. It reflects back to you. I proud of my husband, He is an educated man. His only problem is that he was born Palestinian? You are abusing his identity. The israeli palestinian conflict is a whole big game of power. None of the parties are innocent. They should start talking at the negotiating table and stop generating hate among of the people. And you, too people here with hate filled letters. Why do you think you are so fucking perfect, huh? You live your perfect little life with full of lies, believing in the big media machine, and that makes you so smart. In fact you are all racist.
24. Land was sold to Jews by Arabs and then try to steal it back
Steven ,   USA   (06.25.06)
Bottom line, it has been jewish land for thousands of years. There is no dispute. Second, while arabs lived their they NEVER developed it into a country and when masive plots of land were sold to jews by the local Arabs, they would try to attack them and take it back. Third, I love how everything is Israeli aggression. If they sat on their as*es and did nothing, do you think for a minute that the loving Palestinians would live side by side peacefully and work out a compromise? No way ! They would attack and kill as many Jews as possible.
25. correction of name in #23: Stephane and not Stephanie,sorry
I ,   usa   (06.25.06)
26. TO # 12 GABRIELLE GOLDWATER
AVINU   (06.25.06)
GOOD MORNING GABRIELLE ! PERFECT YOU SAID THAT ALL FACTS THIS OUR HISTORY THEY IGNORANT OR DONT WANT TO NOW ! THANK YOU .BARUCH HASHEM .
27. #23
stephane ,   france   (06.25.06)
i called you "disgusting" because you deserve it. if you married an ennemi of israel,you are an ennemi in my eyes.and you prove it cause you write here talkback against israel where you want to deny that this land is our land.keep the brai wash your husband did on you for yourself and your antisemits friend.there is no smoke without fire,stay in your side and i won't have to tell you what you are.
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