Opinion  Sever Plocker
A war Israel must win
Sever Plocker
Published: 13.07.06, 08:20
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1. We are with you, Israel!
Sabientje ,   Weston. USA   (07.13.06)
We follow the news, we pray for Israel, we gladly offer our financial support in trying times and we wholheartedly support Israel determination for self-defense and self-preservation. We are here for you, Israel. This is a battle of survival and you must win at all costs. There is no room for submission to blackmail, and to terrorist threats. If needed, use all you ton bombs in your arsenal and wipe out the terrorists. Do the world a favor even though the world is ungrateful to you. Cleanse humanity of monsters like Khaled Mashaal, Nabil Abu Salmiyeh and their other terrorists croonies. Israel, please show the world how to combat terrorist. No negotiations, only an ironfist. Destroy their snake dens and all their clones. As an American, I am proud to stand behind Israel now and forever. I would gladly fight for you Israel. I would die for you. LONG LIVE ISRAEL AND THE ISRAELI PEOPLE! SHALOM!
2. Huh?
George W ,   Chicago IL   (07.13.06)
"If these leaders come out of this war with the upper hand, if they can rightly wave the flag of victory, Israel will be finished." Really? If Israel doesn't get three soldiers back than Israel collapses? Wow, that has to set some sort of new record for hyperbole and ridiculousness. This sort of paranoia seems uniquely Israeli; every time someone says boo the entire Jewish people is somehow on the edge of the abyss. I lived in Haifa when buses were blowing up all over the place, and it was scary, but the idea that the whole country is going to be destroyed by a few tin can rockets fired by people whom you have kept under your boot for almost forty years now is ridiculous. You are surrounded by countries that you can invade every day of the week and twice on Sunday, and YOU'RE worried about disappearing? Look, do what you have to do to get your soldiers back, but keep some perspective and stop being such drama queens. The fact is that you are an extremely strong country with a bad terrorism problem that doesn't seem to be fixed by military force. (By the way, blowing up universities, power plants, airports etc. probably won't work anymore than the last several times you did that.) Maybe try something else, and in the meantime if you keep your perspective you might avoid flailing your way into bottomless quagmires yet again. Right now you've fired up two wars in places you couldn't handle the last time you were stuck there. Heck, why stop there? Why not invade Egypt for old times' sake? This is gonna end with a lot more than three Israeli soldiers dead, and everyone will be sitting around wondering how you got into this mess. You got into it because you panicked.
3. racism
Gale Leitch ,   Vancouver, Canada   (07.13.06)
The only racism I have ever experienced in my life was perpetrated against me by Jews. Why are you in Gaza? You do not care that, to the rest of the world, you are war-mongering tyrants and bullies. I, for one, cannot respect Israeli Jews because you seem to be the epitome of racists. Now, I bet you won't print this because your publication believes in Israeli principles and one of those principles seems to be an outright supremacist trait. Freedom of speech? You're not interested in that, or the truth, or even freedom of expression and thought. Your only freedom of association is with other Jews. Israel has absolutely no democratic traits whatsoever. War, war, killing, killing, it's all about negativity with you people. Publish this? You have no concept of freedom of speech. You DEMAND respect but you don't deserve it. My grandfather died fighting in the First World War. What a waste! And you just keep on killing and destroying. What exactly do you have to be proud of?
4. The law of nature says:
Ibrahim ,   S. Arabia   (07.13.06)
WEAKNESS INVITES ABUSE.
5. We are tired of winning.
sk ,   USA   (07.13.06)
So, the top two parties in the last election were Kadima and Labor. No surprise that Israel's deterrent is not taken seriously. But what I don't understand is why every member of the Pal leadership stratum, including Abbas, is not dead. I don't understand why Nasrallah is not dead. All of this was predictable.
6. Tickling the enemy
Ram ,   London   (07.13.06)
Israel is considered a superpower, there is no doubt about that. Bragging to and threatening nonentities such as terrorists and Lebanon does not become a superpower. However, small doses of poison only strengthen the immune system of these rodents. What Israel should be doing is abandon its half-hearted measures of putting an end to this nonsense. It should either act decisively with all the power it takes or sit back and accept the constant and growing threat from these non-entities.
7. #1 No WE are NOT
Ras Twaka ,   Springfield, OR, USA   (07.13.06)
How can we stand with Israel when it systematically terrorizes civilians, destroys infrastructure, demolishes Pali houses, kills innocents, and thumbs its nose at the UN, the EU, and US? Perhaps you should visit the site: www.ifamericansknew.org
8. response to simpleminded Gale Leicht
jo ,   Paris, France   (07.13.06)
Why don't you go and help the palestinians or lebanese by giving all your money and your time to them. And why aren't they helped by there muslim or arab Brother? Why is the UE, the main sponsor (even if I am indirectly paying for and not ok with that) of the PA? Why the UE money goes to terrosists instead of the civilians? On the other, Aren't the christians not racist against th e jews and the muslim? Isn't Christianism an Utopia? Aren't th muslim racist against the jews and the christian. To sum up, breifly, for me you're simpleminded. Because you don't answer to the main question : Don't the jews and have the right to live in peace and liberty in there own state and with no fear
9. Answer to Ras Twaka
jo ,   Paris, France   (07.13.06)
Americans like you need to stop watching TV and going to Mc donald's and should start opening history books, because this website is a Palestinian propaganda website and I don't understand how you've been authorised to publish your post
10. #7 - silly
Allan ,   london   (07.13.06)
Well I guess Israel should just sit back and let Hamas / Hizbullah launch rockets and kidnap people? Would that make more sense to you? Israel has the right to defend its citizens, in any way. If Hamas stopped there would be no Pal's killed. Look at the Jordanian Border, quiet and both sides are happy. Unlike the North and Gaza where all they want is to launch rockets. So perhaps I should launch rockets at your house and see how long it would take you to respond. !!! So keep quiet with your cry baby antics as its just plain dumb.
11. # 3 YOU ARE WRONG MR LEITCH .......
AVINU   (07.13.06)
CAN YOU GO TO LIVE IN SAUDI ARABIA ?? WHAT YOU SAY ? HAVE A FUN ? YOU WILL HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH !??? GOOD LUCK .
12. To Gale Leitch (#3)
Lior   (07.13.06)
Israel has no concept of freedom of speech??? You don't know sh*t about Israel, its democratic system, its media. NOTHING !!! You actually don't know where it is on the map. WOW, Isn't it comfortable to sit in Vancouver and critise a country that is constantly attacked by rocket, mortars, terrorist attacks on busses, pizza parlor, hotels, pubs, you name it. What does you grandfather has to do with Israel? Please tell us what kind of weed you are smoking there. I guess it's not so legal in Canada.
13. Israel Israel Israel
Roland ,   Jerusalem - Israel   (07.13.06)
What about USA and France? They are the key of the problem. Amerca and France can stop Syria, Syria can stop Hezbulla and... Hamas? What is sure is that guns are no growing in the Gaza gardens. They come from Arab Arab countries. Here must USA and France make pressure!
14. ATROCITIES THAT SHOULD END
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON   (07.13.06)
The unprecedent atrocities against the defenceless civilians should bring about a joint strategy against Israel.
15. #7
(07.13.06)
www.ifamericansknew.org ??? LOL I might as well tune into al-jazeera if i wanted to get the same information.
16. Create Buffer Zones
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (07.13.06)
Wide ones. Very, very wide ones.
17. #7
(07.13.06)
The site you gave there is not correct. Palestinians get a lot support from UE and even Israel, medication and money. Why there is more Palestinians children killed? Visit this, Palestinians children are involved too: http://www.rotter.net/israel/ About the Prisoners, 9,599 Palestinians Prisoners. They fogot one thing, the Palestinians Prisoners are in jail because they tried to make a terror act against Israeli civilians inside Israel, the 3 israeli soldiers "Prisoners" are not exactly "Prisoners" they kidnapped by Palestinians terrorist from Israeli land. Not all the statistics in the site are correct and those who are, they don't give an explanation or solution. Any way, Israel went out from Gaza and the Palestinians, didn't stop to make more terror but did and till do a lot of terror. so until they stop terror, Israel can't make peace with them.
18. we are shoulder to sholder wıth ISRAEL
reny ,   usa   (07.13.06)
ıf needed we donate mıLıons of doLLars for ısraeL we LOVe ISRAeL we can be soLdıers for ısraeL...terror neverw wıns and wıth terror we can tcreate PEACE...hamas must decıde carefuLLy ...ıf ısraeL Lost 10 , PaLs -hamas bastards are goıng to lose 10.000
19. warn syrıa
albert ,   england   (07.13.06)
ıt must begın wıth syrıa not lebanon
20. Gale #3 - you're uninformed and unbalanced
Israeli guy   (07.13.06)
You sound like you have a lot of anger bottled up inside. Why don't you go see somebody about that. Oh, and you speak about Israel not having any democratic traits or freedom? Why don't you do a little studying up before you make idiotic comments like these. Instead of watching CNN, read a book.
21. to tough guy georgie # 2
David ,   Jerusalem   (07.13.06)
"I lived in haifa when buses were blowing up all over the place.' That's interesting, georgie. According to the figures, there have been two bus bombings in haifa in the last six years - one in march 2003, and one in december 2001. But you mean you actually lived in HAIFA? That war-torn combat zone. Wow, georgie, that certainly qualifies you to play the tough guy and lecture us about 'panicking'. And we're supposed to be the 'drama queens'? hmm. try taking a look in the mirror, soft-assed american boy. or alternatively, mind your own damn business if you have nothing to offer but adolescent posturing.
22. We will win
(07.13.06)
first the israeli government has to stop looking around the world at Public Opinion it has to tell the world we have to cleaned up theses areas and stand fast. This will be costly, but , its the price israel has to pay for the illusions of peace it has chased. The Government has to remind the world that Israel is not just a country where Jews could run to to prevent a holocaust. But it is a country that belongs to the Jewish People because of Historical and religious reasons. Israel has to be Proud of its past to be steadfast in its future. that is the first step in ensuring success. unfortunately, the israeli government policies of trying to run from its national identity has been portrayed as weakness by our enemies. This can easily be rectified and should be, immediately.
23. #3. Gale Leitch
Ram ,   London   (07.13.06)
I don't know what your background is but I do know Israel's background which you do not seem to grasp. Humans have the tendency to lean one way or another, sometimes without logic and sometimes because of an experience. May I point our that your post at best defies logic and at worst displays the lack of grasping the reality of the situation or worse. If you are not biased towards Jews or Israelis may I suggest you look further into the arab-Israeli conflict a little deeper? There is a difference between unjustified aggressive action and a reaction to it, you know.
24. I will never be with War!!
Servet Gözel ,   İstanbul Turkey   (07.13.06)
Keep going and promote your propaganda for the fire of war, you will see that noone will benefit. How retarded should somebody be to support the death of civilian people on any grounds. There is a very thin line on who is the terrorist and which attack is righteous. The progressive rock band tool has something to say for you: "Don?t these talking monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around? Plenty in this holy garden, silly old monkeys, Where there's one you're bound to divide it Right in two... Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground"
25. Security Situation in Israel
Daniel ,   San Francisco, USA   (07.13.06)
In Two weeks I will be traveling to Israel for World Pride. Rockets are landing where they haven't before. Citizens die and are injured, plenty of property damage. My goy niece said to me "your people ARE tough." We are and I will be to visit Nahariya beach even at rish from the bastard rocket attacks. I plan to head to Nahariya beach. Missle can come to my head Aug 17
26. Kol Hakavod
Daneil ,   San Francisco, CA   (07.13.06)
27. the "yes" is about Leb-Isra-Pal
Joy Springreen   (07.13.06)
the visio of the future must be ones non-hezbollah lebanese and non hamas palestinians must feel good about joining with Israel in. sell and build for the idea of a be-ne-lux of the eastern mediterranean. a 3 state l'entente cordiale of free-trade. this is hamas', hezbollahs. suria's and irans, greatest threat and everyone's else's joy. Prosperity, unity, free-trade and diversity must be the hallmarks of this venture. Only in this venture can we see diversity secured in beautiful lebanon, locality in the rural and romantic PA and security in our beloved vibrant Israel. the extremists want to win. the mono-cultural B*stards are perpetually teaming up together to further their agenda of hate and destruction. ignore them, deal with hezbollah, HARD (kick their butts)and offer a real peace initiative with the non-syrian and non-iranian elements of the lebanese polity. hezbollah started it. Israel must finish it. BUT NOT AT THE COST OF LEBANON. that is the most important thing. Undermine the syrian and iranian position by strengthening ties with the anti-hezbollah and anti-syrian elements. THIS IS NOT A WAR ON 2 FRONTS its a war on all fronts, military, civilian, cultural, diplomatic, everything. SHOW THE LEVANT THAT ISRAEL HAS A PLAN TO HELP EVERYONE. peace-shalom-salaam
28. Gale Leitch is the example
Caligula's Horse ,   Solomon's Stables   (07.13.06)
Of how anti-Semitic propoganda disguised by "Leftism" and Arab popoganda degrade the brain and damage rational thinking, come back to us after you've learned something not based on the protocols of the elders of Zion, we arent impressed by your ignorance.
29. Number 14-- is right
Allan ,   London   (07.13.06)
Yes the targetting of civilians is completely wrong, can yo please ask you friends in Hamas / Hizbollah/ Islamic Jihad and Fatah to stop it as it is against the geneva convention to launch rockets and your suicide bombers against civilians.
30. Israel has known tougher times
Robert Renders ,   Mechelen, Belgium   (07.13.06)
In it's history, Israel has been through much more critical moments. This crisis is difficult for Israel, but as always, Israel will prevail. No doubt about that.
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