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War in north: Support in New York, condemnation in Berlin
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 17.07.06, 21:31
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31. Beware of Hillary
Shiksa ,   California   (07.18.06)
# 17, 18 & 19 are right. Beware of Hillary. She and Bill loved Arafat. Remember when Suha Arafat gave the speech in which she accused Israel of poisoning Palestinian children? Well, Hillary just politely sat there listening. At minimum she should have gotten up and walked away. She will do and say whatever she thinks will win her votes. She pretends to be one thing, but in reality she's something different.
32. Germans and Palestinians
Shiksa ,   California   (07.18.06)
It is a bitter irony to see the Germans and Europeans having so many problems with their large and discontented Muslim populations. They wanted to get rid of the Jews, who were mostly model citizens and great contributors to society, and now they've brought in a bunch of raging Muslims who don't want to embrace Western values.
33. To Ali in Ramallah
Shiksa ,   California   (07.18.06)
Ali, You said that Israel must treat Palestinians as human beings. Well, to be treated as a human being, people must act like human beings. Palestinian culture, sadly, embraces the targeting of innocent civilians (people eating at a cafe, sitting down to a Passover seder, taking their kids out for pizza) and I also see a culture that cynically uses its children to promote violence, teaching them to value being a martyr, and a culture that seems to scream "death to" any person or cause that they disagree with. There doesn't seem to be a willingness to engage in a dialog -- it's just "death to my enemy." I also can't get out of my head the scenes of Palestinians celebrating when the World Trade towers fell, and the picture of the Palestinian triumphantly holding up his bloody hands after he helped kill the IDF reserve officers who made a wrong turn and ended up in a Palestinian village. I could go on and on. I don't mean that all Palestinians are bad, but it seems that a large swathe of the culture does embrace violence and doesn't value life. Having said all that, I am truly sorry that you haven't seen your father since you were 7. That must be very hard and you have my sympathy. I also see signs of your humanity in what you have written (though I disagree with you.) My good wishes are with you.
34. Pfloyd Dont you dare apologize for my country
Jim ,   NYC USA   (07.18.06)
Pfloyd, You have some nerve saying America needs to apologize...bullcrap! This war is as ancient as the hills of GALILEE! America is the ONLY nation that stood up and gave Israel full support when all the other so-called "progressive" leftist states told Israel they were using to too much force. It was the United States that issued the ONLY VETO of these Nazi countries UN resolution to condemn Israel. You couldnt be more wrong, but Im not surprised, aperson who uses Pink Floyd as their screen name doesnt show a progressive mind, but a regressive mind stuck in his long lost 1960's childhood of drug use and unrealistic fantasies. Pfloyd...you are wrong by the facts, by the record of UN voting, and it doesnt surprise me...so many on the left are so hopelessly misinformed because they are JUST PLAIN LAZY. DONT YOU DARE APOLOGIZE FOR MY COUNTRY...Lets Roll Israel...kick some Hezbollah, Hamas, and palestinean ass! These bastards have got to go, they bring NOTHING to this world...NOTHING!
35. Want Peace?
Tom ,   BsAs, ARGENTINA   (07.18.06)
I read a Pal who want peace? GREAT. Then Why don´t you stop Terrorist groups such as Hamas, why did you vote them if you wanted peace? Why do you teach children to hate, leave toys and pick AK 47´s,Why do you have copies in arab of Mein Kampff from Hitler? WHY? Why don´t you disarm all T Groups, and end of story. But, Israel left Gaza in 2005. Incursion followed... same with the south of Lebanon. Withdraw in 2000... INCURSION. You´re amazing. Sure Israel did wrong by occupying some land after 67 war, but do you know why? BECAUSE OF THE INCURSION from Gaza who was run by Egypt Nasser, and West bank who was run by Jordan. That´s why they occupied the land in order to stop the incursion. See any relation between 67, and 2005/2006? I DO.
36. GREETINGS FROM AUSTRALIA
Art ,   Sydney Australia   (07.18.06)
Greetings to all our brothers and sisters. Australia stands 100% behind you, and not just Jewish Australians! ALL AUSTRALIANS of every race and religion, because Australia stands for fair play, peace and democracy!! YOU ARE HOLDING YOUR GROUND, MY BROTHERS & SISTERS. WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER TO EVIL. we will be holding more rallies in the coming days to support you.
37. To Ali
Anna ,   Australia   (07.18.06)
Ali, you are wrong to say that "it all started from then" meaning 1948. And even if you don't want to talk about history, you'll have to. We'll all have. Imagine, if you invite my family to live in your house, doesn't matter how long I'll stay there and now many children I'll have, the house is still YOURS. Even if Turks in Germany reproduce at a faster rate than Germans themselves the land still belongs to the Germans. They were there first. So it doesn't matter how many Arabs are there in Israel. Israelis were there first. And please don't tell me about the suffering. I do believe that you people suffer but you better ask your leaders where all the billions $ from Muslim countries and Europe go. If your dad is arrested I believe he did something wrong. Israel has better ways of spending money than to feed arab prisoners. Israeli Arabs have full rights. There're Arab schools. Arab representatives are in Knesset. Arabs prefer Israeli great Universities. And you prefer to go to work to Israel! You hate her, but still want it to give you everything. Needless to say, no Arab country would EVER do even 1% of these to any Jew.
38. to Ali #30
Michael ,   Austin, TX   (07.18.06)
you expect Israelis to treat you better than arabs treat you. No arab country treats you with any respect. There are no Jews in gaza....you have it.....just make peace....YOU WILL NEVER WIN A WAR AGAINST ISRAEL....ACCEPT REALITY!!!
39. Ali
Kkap ,   NYC, USA   (07.18.06)
Israel unilaterally withdrew from Lebanon years ago. They don't occupy it. Hezbollah had no reason to do what they are doing. They themselves say they are fighting not for Lebanon but for Islam. So the Lebanese are the ones getting screwed more by the people allowed to operate in their own country.
40. Conflict in the Middle East
Mike ,   Seattle, USA   (07.18.06)
It's written by an Arab. I can see through a language. And as we know Arabs, especially Islamo-Fascists are ... well, not the most intelligent people.
41. Arrest
Mike ,   Seattle, USA   (07.18.06)
What was you Dad arrested for? For blowing up some women and children?
42. Holy Propaganda!
craig ,   halifax   (07.18.06)
Batman
43. randy
wanda ,   montreal   (07.18.06)
who cares when people lived where, and under which label they exist. does it make them any less a people? the point is they have since, they have their own identity, culture and geneology. it's HOW they are treated, what respect they are given, what intrinsic rights they are provided that count. on the other hand, if you were kicked out of your house by someone who said their god promised to them thousands of years ago, and then atte,pted to delegitimize your own claim to the property, what reaction do you think you'd give? in this day and age you'd call them a schizophrenic and ask for protective intervention from a governing body. i don't raise this point to undermine or say that the state of israel should not be recognized, more to just try and underline the need for tempered methods and why others might reject israel's near-atavistic claim.
44. Israeli Military Action
Russel ,   SF Bay Area, USA   (07.18.06)
Israel is finally "taking out the garbage", and may the one true God go with her! THIS time, I hope they will finally and totally erradicate the area of those low life gutter filth who teach their children to strap bombs to themselves, and in the name of an insane pediophile cult leader, kill others in the name of Allah (Satan).
45. ALI: SHOR OMER
Brana Lobel ,   USA   (07.18.06)
SHOR OMER AZ YASHIR MOSHE UVNEI YISRAEL ET HASHIRA HAZOT LA'ADONAI VAYOMRU LEMOR ASHIRA LA'ADONAI KI GAYO GAYA SUS V'ROCHVO RAMA VAYAM, SHEMOT 15:1 SHOR as shootin', Ali, this land is ours. Ramallah=Israel AM YISRAEL CHAI
46. Enough is Enough
Jon ,   Nashville, TN   (07.18.06)
The Philistines have been given chance after chance after chance. Each time, they only want more. The only peace and love of life they want to enjoy is the destruction of Israel. The Philistines need to go back to their true oppressors in Jordan. Long live Israel!!! G-d Bless You.
47. Ali
Randy ,   Mustang, OK   (07.18.06)
First of all, I harbor no hate for the Palestinians. Like I said, I am not a Jew and I am not that great of a Christian. This story has two peoples and two sides to it. Prior to 1948 there was a Palestian people. They exisisted in Palestine since 70 AD when the Romans destroyed Israel. Having said that, Israel comprises about 1% of the land in the Middle East. The other 99% are Arab countries. Prior to and up to now, none of your Arab brothers have been willing to give up any of their land to establish a Palestinian nation. Not Egypt, Jordan, Syria or any other nation in the Middle east save for one. Israel. Israel is the only nation that has even offered a soveriegn state to the Palestinians. The other Arab nations use the Palestinians as a pawn to wage their war against the "Zionists". Your people have always been the "dupes" that have been asked to sacrifice yourselves for Arabia. Think about it Ali. Why aren't you sharing the wealth and living in any of these bother nations. Don't they have the room or riches? Yes they do. See, they need martyrs to wage the war against the Jew so they don't have to. You have always been cheap and willing labor for them. You do the dirty work and they go on living off the oil money. Can you dispute this? Where does the money come from for the suicide bombers. It comes from the oil rich Arabs like Saudi Arabia. They want your sons to kill the Jews and themselves and their sons to go to college in the US and UK. Lets talk about oppression and exactactly who the oppressers are in an honest way . Israel is not the oppresser. Your supposed brothers are the oppressers. I pray for peace in the Middle East and I pray for the security and prosperity of the Palestinians. God knows that you folks deserve both peace and prosperity. Open your eyes Ali, the truth is there. God Bless You.
48. Occupation and Opression
Emily ,   USA   (07.18.06)
Israel was not occupying any of your space. I guess you call the State of Israel yours too because I know the PLO's map of the Palestine doesn't show Israel at all. As for the 10,000 arrested, there has to be a good reason. You have all recognized by your demands that 2 Israelis are worth 10,000 of you. How pathetic. Arafat stole from you for years. Just think of what you could have built with all that money as well as the commerce you could have had. When are you going to wake up, live in peace and stop bellyaching about the "poor" Palestenians who are nothing but Arab rejects the other countries don't want.
49. Ali, The land belongs to Israel and you
Moira ,   USA   (07.18.06)
are allowed to live ther. Now Everyone here knows, that when a pali says they WANT peace, they really mean they want to own what belongs to Israel, that is all.
50. Ali, please...
Jot ,   Texas, USA   (07.18.06)
This isn't about Palestine, as a country. It is about the destruction of Israel. So-called Palestinians are no more than Arabs, or displaced Persians, both of which already occupy the vast and overwhelming majority of the middle east. There will be no peace as long as the Arab peoples want to destroy the Israelis... for no more reason that each gives the other. Lay down your weapons. If the Arabs/Persians will leave Israel in peace, there will peace given by Israel in return. It truly is that simple, yet none in the muslim world will accept that. So, there will be war - over and over and over again, until all is destroyed.
51. #6
MARSHA ,   USA   (07.18.06)
Greg, ........thank you...well said.
52. Ali #30
Daniel ,   Vienna, Austria   (07.18.06)
Oh, no, Ali, you and yours will get what's coming to you. Don't vote for Hamas if you don't want the peace of the grave. Don't cheer every Israeli and US death if you don't want the same. Don't be upset when your Heros like Zarquawi and Yassin, etc. get atomized like the pigs and dogs they are. And don't expect any more mercy to be extended to you and yours. Never Again, and enough already!
53. From Holland, with love
Ramberto ,   Amsterdam, Holland   (07.18.06)
Next thursday there'll be a rally in support of Israel in Amsterdam. Just to let you know that not everybody in Europe is against Israel. Take care and good luck!
54. To # 25 Randy
Eblis ,   Sodom   (07.18.06)
Mr Randy, i wont go into the details of history but try to be more accurate about ur "facts", and look back way before the roman empire, around 2000 BC and see who was there in the actual land called israel. Now by ur same logic, arent u a US citizen, established on the land of the red indians originally, whom u gradually wiped out and assigned to closed reserves? By ur same logic, the very land ur house is built doesnt belong to u, since u're an usurper, as much as the romans were when they wiped out israel in 60 AD...
55. Ali # 30
keren ,   sao paulo   (07.18.06)
Israel doesn't have to treat you as human beings;you have to treat yourself as human beings. Israel is not your mother nor your father;you have to build YOUR OWN LIFE without Israel. You were given "autonomy"in the territories you are occupying by now;what did you do with this autonomy?You built 2 terrorists territories. You are the people who much received funds for foreigners;What did you do with this money?did you build schools for your children?did you build producing factories?what did you build?You bought arms kill Jews !And in your rare schools, you teach your children HATE. Israel had offered you many times alternatives for peace,but you always refused. It is easier and childish to blame others instead of taking our lives in our own responsability,and that seem to be you fault. As for Israel ,it has the right to chose what is best for itself.It is not supposed to carry you if we don't want it.Each family with their owns.That's it! Israel doesn't have to adapt to your wishes,because it has its own wishes.One can not impose to the other neither a undesired presence nor an undesired way of life. Arabs are arabs;Jews are Jews. Everyone must live the way they chose and so it doesn't mean they have to live together or interdependent at all. Israel is living in its legally owned lands,even you can not accept this fact.It is our right to leave in Peace there,and you should have chosen to live in peace in your amount. That's how I see.
56. #15
JC ,   Dallas TX USA   (07.18.06)
I have to agree that the US doing nothing is sad. Mostly it's because Israel is certainly capable of protecting its self. However, the US should be aiding the war on at Israel's side. Bush is such a limp noodle from getting beat up so much about Iraq. Iraq was a necessary incursion and it makes it harder now for Iran and Syria to cooperate - that's a bonus! Stop being a wimp GW and Iran NOW!!
57. Beware of the Hill-Billy's of Arkansas!!
(07.18.06)
They will not miss photo-ops with Jews, Arabs, Chinese, etc, just to get votes. Jews of New York don't be deceived by this woman, Hillary Clinton! She is out for your votes.
58. ISRAEL YOUR HOME
Jim ,   Phoenix, U.S.   (07.18.06)
Do you have a hard time spelling out the word God? If that is the case then I will send you a book or something to help
59. Israel is a made-up country.
Steve ,   Washington, DC   (07.18.06)
When you live in a fake country whose existence is at best dubious, you should expect your neighbors to act in ridiclous ways. It's nice that the Jews lived in Israel 1,500 years ago but that's no rationale to colonize someone else's land and recreate a long dead country. What's next, Troy?
60. History reveals all
Gator ,   USA   (07.18.06)
Appeasement never leads to peace, it only emboldens the forces of evil who have only one goal....violence and killing civilians. There never was a Palestine, it was just a name the romans conjured up to describe the desert nomads wandering the deserts of the sinai. All the land that is now Israel was sold to the jews by the arabs living there. It was only after they saw how the jews turned the deserts into orchards that they ranted about "their land." The rest of the arab world despise the Palestinians and hold them in contempt. Wonder why.
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