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B'Tselem: IDF uses Palestinians as human shield
Efrat Weiss
Published: 21.07.06, 00:18
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1. Weiss, you just couldn't wait to find some crap to dig up.
Jeremiah ,   Israel, Jewish Land   (07.21.06)
2. I don't believe a word of this article
Yidith ,   Toronto   (07.21.06)
And even if it were true- which it isn't (the stench of PA ARAB propaganda is overwhelming) then I still don't give a hoot. Personally I'm getting really fed up with all this enforced ethical behaviour; it's costing Israeli kid's lives. No other army in the world let's it's self be hampered like that.
3. good and bad
BS meter ,   Canada   (07.21.06)
There's bound to be some of this kind of stuff. Better we dig it out ourselves than others do. And here's one difference between "us" and "them" (f*ck you, Edward Said): we're capable of digging this stuff up about ourselves. And here's another: this constitutes a minority of what we do, and a majority of what they do. This kind of stuff is their whole way of conducting themselves, in fact. No uniforms. No bases separate from civilian populations. No state responsibility. Sending their little sisters and brothers out in suicide belts. Baby pictures with guns. Slitting throats on TV. Dressing up in black hoods, like the Ku Klux Klan in negative. Yeah, they can get more negative than the KKK.... I'm sorry to read this, but there are worse things, and the Palestinians, Hamas, Hezbollah, and their confreres commit them daily.
4. PERMITTED?
BORUCH HOFFINGER ,   BROOKLYN NY   (07.21.06)
WHO KNOWS, THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR MIGHT BE PERMITTED BY TORAH LAW. AFTER-ALL THESE "CIVILIANS" MIGHT BE HATEFUL, TERRORIST MONGERS AND THE IDF CAN'T FERRET OUT THESE ARMED MURDERERS. IN ORDERE TO PROTECT JEWS IT MIGHT BE PERMITTED. DON'T LISTEN TO B'Tselem. THEY HAVE A WARPED VERSION OF REALITY AND MORALITY. JUST TRYING TO POINT FINGERS AND APPEAR "HOLIER THAN THOU." MAYBE THEY BEAT THEIR WIVES OR KIDS? PERHAPS THEY'RE ATHEISTS AND DON'T VALUE INNOCENT HUMAN LIVES, PARTICULARLY JEWISH. LISTEN TO TORAH LAW AND YOU'LL DO JUST FINE! RUN FROM IT AND TROUBLES WON'T CEASE!
5. human shields
alex ,   canada   (07.21.06)
the Israeli supreme court are tieing insrael's hands by not allowing the use of shields to tactically defeat terror groups.
6. If it's true which I doubt, they would have learned it from
Kill hizzbull and ,   Hamas -shit   (07.21.06)
The Arabs.
7. To #2
Scott ,   OK, USA   (07.21.06)
No other army in the world let's it's self be hampered like that. One does, and they are in Iraq. The US forces in Iraq have to deal with these kind of stories regularly. Our press gleefully reports them without investigating the accusations. They actually want the stories to be true. When they find out that the stories are not true they retract them on page 20. The initial "attrocity" shows up on the front page. God Bless the Drive By Media, not. For some reason when the good guys win they need to spin it to show how bad and ruthless our military is. Welcome to the world of the LIBERAL (read as the socilaist/communist) media.
8. #2
Libyan Guy ,   Italy   (07.21.06)
Maybe you need to change you mind ??? do you think that IDF are so breave men ?!
9.  I HOPE IT IS TRUE. !
(07.21.06)
10. I don't believe that!
keren ,   sao paulo   (07.21.06)
But,please...let the soldiers alone! They know what to do.It is not a moment for this kind of bs. War is war ,and any thing is a matter of life: or Israel or them.Not too much choices!
11. arab media lies
James ,   New Zealand   (07.21.06)
I don't believe it either,If the philistine muslims don't like it then bugger off back to your homeland jordan!
12. Col HaKavod le Tzahal
Adam ,   Raanana, Israel   (07.21.06)
Rather them than us. And B'Tselem can go to hell. They should all be bloody deported
13. Chomping on the apple again
A Poet ,   Terra Firma   (07.21.06)
It is sad that both sides in Middle East war continue to chomp Eve’s apple. Both assume to be the judge of good and evil. When the ego assumes that role, it often appoints itself to be the dispenser of rewards and punishments. Both sides judge the other to be evil, and the destruction going on is the dispensing of mutual punishment. Both ignore God as Adam and Eve ignored Him. I suggest a change in diet. In Genesis, God does not forbid us from judging truth and beauty versus ignorance and ugliness. He permits this judgement because the ego tends to compassionately improve life by sharing knowledge and repairing ugliness. In Genesis and the Koran, Isaac and Ishmael were saved because Abraham continually listened to God. The two sons lived because Abraham heard God’s order to stay his knifed hand. Ironically, today the death of children goes unabated. Is it because today's fathers do not hear God's orders? I suggest both sides take their focus off of evil and switch it to ignorance and ugliness. I pray that will stop the destruction and commence the compassionate restoration of a land where all children may grow up in peace. Shalom.
14. To #7: I'M BACK, useless to punish!
A Poet ,   Terra Firma   (07.21.06)
It is sad that both sides in Middle East war continue to chomp Eve’s apple. Both assume to be the judge of good and evil. When the ego assumes that role, it often appoints itself to be the dispenser of rewards and punishments. Both sides judge the other to be evil, and the destruction going on is the dispensing of mutual punishment. Both ignore God as Adam and Eve ignored Him. I suggest a change in diet. In Genesis, God does not forbid us from judging truth and beauty versus ignorance and ugliness. He permits this judgement because the ego tends to compassionately improve life by sharing knowledge and repairing ugliness. In Genesis and the Koran, Isaac and Ishmael were saved because Abraham continually listened to God. The two sons lived because Abraham heard God’s order to stay his knifed hand. Ironically, today the death of children goes unabated. Is it because today's fathers do not hear God's orders? I suggest both sides take their focus off of evil and switch it to ignorance and ugliness. I pray that will stop the destruction and commence the compassionate restoration of a land where all children may grow up in peace. Shalom.
15. Cowards!!!!
Sam ,   Atlanta, GA   (07.21.06)
Coward IDF...Only good at throwing bombs from they sky..but face to face, they fight like pussies!!
16. Israel keep it up
Aaron ,   NYC, USA   (07.21.06)
I could not agree more with #3. Israel gets accused of these things, true or not, and its the end. While this is the sole way of Arab, yes I said it, terrorism. Shiite, sunni, hamas, palestinians, Iranians in Lebanon dressed as civilians, they all have common ground. They all hide among civilians, who by the way aid and abet their every move, and are more involved then we can imagine. So I say this, as the IDF pamflets said, to those civilians who are amongst terrorists; Run and Hide. You are succeding in camoflouging yourselves and we are lwft with no choce but to neutralize you too.
17. An unjust operation with inacceptable tactics
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18. So whats the problem?
RA   (07.21.06)
19. Always Cowards
Shuan ,   All Palestine   (07.21.06)
Since the beginning of time, COWARDS. You will never find peace in Palestine. Enjoy it while it lasts. Your crimes will not go unpunished. Israel will be AT WAR as long as you exist in our dear land. We have no doubt about it. Its a matter of time.
20. Human (?) Shields
Paul ,   USA   (07.21.06)
Why not use the Pals as shields in Lebanon? That would solve two problems at once. They would then become shaheeds. So THREE problems solved. Nassrallah and Ahimashthed would approve.
21. Palestinians like Shuan #19 still singing same old tune
Jenny   (07.21.06)
You said it in 1948 and you're still saying it. You want to destroy us and cheer for Hezbollah aka the army of Iran? We'll see who is laughing when Iran gets the bomb and kills everyone in the area. It won't matter if it is called Israel or Palestine but the whole area will be dust. This is how stupid you are to cheer on Iran. Even Abu Mazen realizes it is horrible if Iran gets the bomb. Why don't you stop hating and wake up? Or is it that you want to be a martyr?
22. Hamas Charter/GLOBAL JIHADISTS TARGET JEWISH CIVILIANS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (07.21.06)
Does B'Tselem believe the planned second Holocaust of Jews is acceptable BECAUSE THE VICTIMS ARE JEWS? Palestinian Authority Muslims voted overwhelmingly for the Hamas platform which calls for the murder of all Jews. From the Hamas Charter: "Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims... Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it... There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad..." Conquest of the Jewish Holy Land is highly coveted. The ultimate goal is world domination by Islam. Islamists use women and children as human shields and fire from within densely populated areas. IslamoFascist religious supremacists attack Jewish civilians day and night: Stabbings, shootings, fire-bombings, stonings, drive-by shootings, bombs planted, grenade attacks, mortar attacks, lynchings. A daily barrage of incessant rocket attacks. Human bomb killer attacks... Effigies of burning buses are features of Palestinian Authority school pageants and summer camps. Streets and soccer teams are named after suicide bombers. Arab Muslim children and adults train in terrorist training camps. Ambulances transport terrorists, weapons, and bombs. Thousands of Palestinian Authority Muslims celebrate in the streets and pass out sweets whenever Jewish innocents including children, are murdered by Muslim human bomb killers. Palestinian Authority society are taught murdering Jews is the highest goal in life and attains paradise: http://www.pmw.org.il/AFD.html
23. Always Cowards?
Rob ,   Long Island, NY, USA   (07.21.06)
Cowards? I don't ever recall seeing an Israeli strap a bomb to him/herself and detonate it in a cafe or bus. Give me a break.
24. Israeli lives are worth more.
sk ,   USA   (07.21.06)
Even if the pro-terror group B'Tselem is correct, why is this a problem? How many times have we heard about "millions of martyrs marching to Jerusalem," one of Arafat's favorite lines (Cry for the martyr Abu Amar! Boo Hoo!) The Pals will tell you they love death. They don't value their own lives and value Jewish lives even less. Since Pals tell us their lives are worth so little, I say it's time to behave accordingly. Anyway, I notice that Pals never complain about dying when they are on the offensive. It's only when they play defense that they complain. How about if Israel insist that any people who are willing to die to kill Jews should be killed as prevention?
25. re:19 Shuan
HBendor ,   New York USA   (07.21.06)
Your country? Wow, the hordes of Islam came out of Arabia, and then bifurcated one going west and conquered North Africa and the other went North and East. What country is yours, since you conquered several in the seventh Century? You also conquered Spain and they kicked you out of there. Israel is the Jewish State and if you do not like it pick and move malevolent weed.
26. Bet Tselem
Jack Cohen ,   San Diego, USA   (07.21.06)
Can Israel find no law on its books to rid herself of this vile enemy within?
27. human shields
cline ,   pittsburgh, PA - USA   (07.21.06)
You should know better! TAQIYAH. Lies are the arab way of telling their side of the story. I believe none of their nonsense!
28. To #15, # 17
Ibrahim ,   S. Arabia   (07.21.06)
"cowards".... Hmmm...this is what Saddam's people used to call the Americans that bombed them in the Gulf war.....but nobody cared. The result was what mattered...... :)
29. Deport Betselem to Gaza
Alex ,   Israel   (07.21.06)
Ah, but again this lying, hypocritical, caring about palestinian human rights only, extreme-left organisation invents another lie to backstab humiliate and mock the country, that provides free speech for such excuses for human beings like Betselem. IF YOUR MAIN GOAL IS TO WHITEWASH TERRORIST SCUM - GO LIVE IN GAZA, suckers.
30. #25 ugly language
Rustum ,   London, UK   (07.21.06)
Firstly, you cannot even evince enough humanity to say that the use of human shields is contrary to all the norms of warfare. The string of whinging morons here calling for human rights organisations like betselem to be sent to Gaza is pathetic is its inference that the Jewish state is above international law and that somehow, as one raving idiot said "the human shields MIGHT be potential terrorists". Absolute criminal rubbish. The rule of law would infer, as with your thousands of Lebanese and Palestinian hostages languishing in Israeli prisons, if they committed a crime, then try them. If not, release them. What Israel is doing with these hostages is total anarchy in terms of law. Secondly - I find your whole attitude to the non-Jewish populations of the Middle East to be obnoxious. Calling people "malevolant weeds" is simply national-socialist-speak. Perhaps you can bear in mind the concept of equivalence - and I wonder how you would feel, if with slightly more justification, your opponents were to refer to the Jewish presence in teh Middle East as a "malevolant weed". Highly unpleasant. But then again, most of what you write here is highly unpleasant, unacademic and the fruit of a rather fetid and sterile imagination. I would state again that I am simply astonished that you have managed to fool academics worldwide - because if your written papers are produced in the style of your postings here, I would be placing you in the pre-O'level classes and getting you to work very hard in improving your content, your references and your manners.
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