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Extensive operation in Strip: 8 Palestinians killed
Efrat Weiss
Published: 03.08.06, 08:20
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1. "hit by aircrafts" Like a Chinese Menu
Seth ,   Washington, DC   (08.03.06)
2. Doesn't sound like..
Pat ,   USA   (08.03.06)
hamas is doing very well in the strip :) I hope Israel cleans them out once and for all!
3. Well done
Hans-Jörg Marby ,   Markdorf, Germany   (08.03.06)
We pray for you all
4. How pathetic ARE the intl beggars
Ivri   (08.03.06)
How pathetic does Abbas looks now,defanged and powerless,making noises every 2 days,trying to remind us of himself and his sorry lot. Well....Abu Mazen.....now you got our attention.AND,,,,,,as you say in your double faced -double speaK language,,,Bil Karib....SOON....soon we will finish the job in Lebanon,AND finish the job in Gaza,AND...if you make enough noises,we are coming after you in your smelly,Muktada. And btw,,,we havent forgot your part in Munich....Kul KalB Biji YOMO! AND...to any Arab moron or Arab apeaser who will post here that I am advocating hatred.....maybe so...i have had enough good examples all around me and they all have ARAB NAMES. We will be as ethical as one can be in wartime,but brutal and relentless nevertheless.
5. Humans or not
Aboud Hamayel ,   Palestine   (08.03.06)
In order to live, you absolutely need to let Live. The World as we know it has become a place for hatred, destruction, war and disgrace. Humans have become inhuman, the only thing I cant and wont understand, is why? Why should we live in such away? Why should we kill each other? Why can’t we put Humanity before religion or nationalism etc…? Aren’t we all born human, aren’t we all born children, don’t we have the heart to be more acceptable towards others. Please don’t replay to this saying anything about terrorism, because I have heard it all before, don’t replay saying its our fault or there fault. Just answer the questions.
6. What did Hamas expect?
RA   (08.03.06)
I think you need to be a fanatical muslim to be able to get into their mindset. I personally have no idea, I just hope the IDF takes care of them.
7. Go SOUTH!
Jesus ,   SF, USA   (08.03.06)
Good to hear from the South, that they are doing good! These terrorist groups need to be brought to justice! Instead of trying to destroy peace they should create it. People of Palestine and Lebanon and God knows who else. Search deep within your heart and find the value of life. Do not let these groups control your life and the lives of your loved ones. They say they are your freedom fighters. They are not! They are a disgrace to the honorable men and women that are and were freedom fighters! People as Ghandi, Martin Luther King Jr., Mother Teresa, Cesar Chavez and sadly only a handful more...these people fought and stood for what they believed...without trying to destroy life. If you hit someone, expect to get hit. If you stand your ground without hitting, then others will begin to see your cause. Question those that are holding you hostage. Those that are putting you in this situation. Why would you support someone that drags you through these violent times? If you support them, expect to get the same response that they are. If you don't support these terrorist, they have no power over you. It only takes one of you to plant the seed to your freedom. I wish I knew your language to empower you. It's not an easy road...it never is...but the possibility of living with your neighbors and creating beautiful things is worth it. Ask yourselves, which life would you rather live in? A peaceful land where things are created between neighbors, without any threat from either side? Or a life in which you're living in right now...constant fear and hatred? It takes one person to step out of their shell and see the possibility. This goes for all sides. Next time you want to hurt someone...don't! Ask yourself, "Why would I want to hurt this person(s)?" Do let your emotions blind you with hatred. Help each other, to let others see that it is possible. If you see someone or know someone that is blinded by their anger and emotions, help them calm down and see the possibility you are creating. That it is possible to live together. I know it is possible be we live in a world where we have no where else to go. There isn't another planet to move to. There isn't. We must learn to tolerate each other's beliefs. I don't push my beliefs on you, and so I expect you not to push yours on me. I invite you to see the way I see, but ultimately...it will be your choice. My beliefs are not a threat to you, nor do I see your beliefs as a threat to me. I know it sounds like a lot like "let's hold hands" kind of stuff, but it's also a possibilty that we can create! If not, then we're just thrown back to the anger and fighting that we see today. I leave you with this...I empower you with the choice of questioning those that are dragging you through all this. Obviously, their way of doing things is not letting you live peacefully with your neighbors. Isn't it time for a different way of thinking? Will you take that on? I understand what Israel needs to do. I do not resort to violence, but sometimes violence only knows violence. A thorn in your hand hurts. It's going to hurt when you pull it out, but when it's out...it's a great relief. These terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hizbullah are the thorns.
8. #5
Pat ,   USA   (08.03.06)
These are questions you need to direct at islamic terrorists. Israel withdrew from Lebanon 6 years ago, they got attacked by hate filled islamic terrorists. Israel withdrew from the Gaza strip last year, they got attacked by hate filled islamic terrorists. You come on ynet and ask these questions; why not go out amongst your islamic palestinian brethren and ask the same questions? I know the answer, because if you truly feel no hate towards Jews the islamic brethren would hate and wish to kill you too.
9. #5 Palestinian and peace
Sam ,   Canada   (08.03.06)
Palestinian conditions for peace are so rigid- 1967 borders and Right of Return that you leave no room for negotiation. Israelis don't accept it. What do you want to talk about? You don't leave any room for discussion.
10. Destroy Gaza
Art ,   Sydney   (08.03.06)
We should destroy Gaza like we destroyed South Leb and make these Pals pay for their crimes. Show them as much mercy as they have shown the people of Sderot, Ashkelon etc. GO IDF. All Australians support you
11. To # 8
Aboud Hamayel ,   Palestine   (08.03.06)
Although i didnt ask them, but your right i should as them, im not going to disagree with you. But this time i asked you, so tell me what you truly think, now im asking you, not them...
12. Human or Animal
Jason ,   Wilmington   (08.03.06)
Mankind is born as an animal and raised to be a human. Terrorists have turned in their humanity, but the children of Terrorists are being raised without humanity. Most of the world has grown soft, but Israel has grown strong. From the death camps of Germany to the persecution of the world, to the endless attacks by their Islamic neighbors, Israel's children have kept their humanity but grown strong. Israel is strong enough for peace and strong enough to put down the feral beasts that have risen all around them. Strong enough to know that peace does not come from weakness and that there can be no peace with monsters.
13. So what will be?
Yehuda ,   USA   (08.03.06)
In the end, the Palestinians will have to recognize Israel and Israel will give the Palestinians land to create their own state. We fight today because there is no dialog between our nations. But the war we fight in the north is the war of global Islamic Jihad. I realy think that this is the best time to get the Palestinian independence issue off the table. Israel is in a very strong negotiating position. Solving the Israel-Palestine issue once and foreall would free Israel from international constraints and allow us to unite with moderate Arabs to defeat Jihad.
14. #5/#11 Your Answers
Magrudis ,   Houston, TX   (08.03.06)
"Why should we live in such away?" We shouldn't. Why should we kill each other? We shouldn't do that either. Why can’t we put Humanity before religion or nationalism etc…? Magnificent. Now that your questions are answered, all you need to do is ask Hizbullah and Hamas to please not kidnap people or shoot rockets from the cover of civilian women and chidren.
15. #11
Pat ,   USA   (08.03.06)
Aboud, as already implied, these are questions you need to ask of fatah, hamas, hizbollah etc. Why should we live in such a way? Answer: Because groups like fatah, hamas, hizbollah etc. leave us all with little choice! Why should we kill each other? Answer: Because groups like fatah, hamas, hizbollah etc. force peace seeking people to kill in order to preserve themselves. Why can't we put humanity before religion or nationalism? Answer: Because groups like fatah, hamas, hizbollah etc. have no respect for humanity. You really need to ask this question of fatah, hamas, hizbollah etc. If radical Islam didn't exist at present, I don't know that there would be any killing on the face of the globe. Sorry, but I refuse to allow you to pervert the current matter into something that radical terrorists didn't cause. Israel disengaged from hizbollah and hamas, which means LEAVE US ALONE. The islamic terrorists chose to instead kidnap and kill Israelis...that is why you need to ask them these questions.
16. Reply to #5 Abound
James ,   Toledo, USA   (08.03.06)
"Live and let live"? Absolutely! When we humans come to our senses we agree with you. I live in the USA in relative peace and security. I only imagine and "think" that I understand what its like in the middle east war zones, intolerance, persecution, oppression, fear of many evils, etc. I have 4 childen...I'm thankful Im here. I hurt for those of you who have children there. I'm a Christian. I can live in tolerance and understanding with any religion so long as they extend the same consideration to me and my loved ones. You sound like a reasonable human being. Tell me...what are the answers? We need a change of the heart. In the BIble it tells me if I live by the sword then I'll die by the sword. BUT I dont know if I could turn the other cheek when my children are concerned. I might pick up the sword and let God be the final judge. You tell me my distant friend Abound, what is the answer? We are capable of being very evil to each oher. Most of us would rather be good and kind to others hoping that goodness and kindness will be returned to us. The evil ones among us take that as weakness and try to exploit us...sometimes to death. What do we do about them? If I tell them Jesus can change your heart and forgive you...and they say no our God says to kill you and your 4 children, what do I do? I have two choices.....endure the death of my children and self or I pick up the sword and try to stop them. I guess my faith in God or lack of faith will be what influences my decision. The madness will come here to my country just as it is there now at your doorstep. There will be no escape from the insanity of human sin until Jesus the Son of God returns. He will stop it with his sword. He wont turn his cheek again. All of the evil things we see now will be judged with vengence. I think we as humans will deserve it. He had to bleed and die for us to make a way out of this madness because we are not able to help or stop ourselves. Perhaps God will choose to restrain the evil for another generation of mankind. He does not want anyone to die the second death seperated from HIm. Thats why God permits it to continue. He is very personal and intimate...not distant and alone...his love for you and me endures and is very real. The evil in the world will stop one day. But for today Jesus can make the evil in individuals change to goodness and kindness. He is the only answer Abound. You can see proof of that in other believers...its Gods love. Be strong my friend. Dont be overcome by the despair. May God bless you with endurance of spirit, and life. He reaches out to you because he knows you and loves you. Someday soon you will have the answers to your questions. May the sword be far from you with peace in your home.
17. To Aboud Hamayel
David ,   Dallas, USA   (08.03.06)
It is refreshing to have a conversation with a muslim looking for peace. All of your questions are very valid and desreve to be answered: Can your people live with Israel side by side in peace and harmony with economic ties as well as security? if the answer is yes, thenit is guaranteed that all of your questions will be answered with honey & apples! You should ask your leadership to get smart and make peace with Israel and get the benefits of friendship like technology, health, education on and on and on... We would make great partnership! Don't you think?!
18. To # 5 Aboud Hamayel , Palestine
Ibrahim ,   S. Arabia   (08.03.06)
Because you BLINDLY follow the orders of leaders who do not think as you think. They have managed to convince young, uneducated men that it is a good thing to blow themselves up, with a "Martyr" designation. they tell you what you want to hear, and you eat it all up. You do not realize that you are taken advantage of, used, manipulated. Idiots. There is a saying in America , "there is a sucker born every minute" . It is so true. Anyone who does not try to think for himself, to learn things, deserves their fate.
19. To # 5 . Abou Hamayel
Hiram Al Masry ,   tel aviv   (08.03.06)
Ahlan WaSAlan ... Ibrahim 18 is aboslutely correct. History repeats itself when the conditions are right. The same causes will ALWAYS produce the same effects. From 1933 to 1945 the larger part of German population blindly followed Hitler's ideas ( which were not so far from Islamist's trend of thought...to the point that there was indeed an Islamic SS Brigade in operation )and this led them to destruction and submission. Hamas ( Like Hizbullah ) are indeed terror organisation who place their own quest for power AHEAD of the well being of their own people. I have NEVER seen any army hiding in the population in order to accomplish military operation....but Islamists, which are using civilians as human shields. Allah is NOT requesting the kind of human sacrifices that you , the Islamists, are advocating. The internal palestino-palestinian conflict is being used as an excuse by a bunch of terrorists manipulated from abroad. But in order to realise that it is the truth, it takes both courage and questioning. The deadly silence of the arab community demonstrate that your " terrorist cause" is totally lost. ( a few hundred people in Gaza a couple of days ago demonstrated against the lebanese situation). There is NO arab support, quite the opposite as some arab countries are already blaming terrorist for the instability of the area. The ONLY reason why Gaza is what it is today is simple : Islamism and democracy are NOT compatible and so far real democracy has not yet found the right soil to grow and the right people to nurture it in the Middle East who has managed to produce a very high ration of Intellectual terrorist and dictators by the square mile. Get rid of ISLAMISM and your problems will be solved. Real courage would be to quick HAMAS out along with all the "martyr brigades" of any kind and name who are doing nothing else besides maintaining Palestinians in the service of the masters of terror.Take your destiny in your own hands, and you wiull then have a chance of timely getting arab support.
20. #11 They don't want to leave Israel alone
Sam ,   Canada   (08.03.06)
Israel disengaged from Hamas but that didn't solve the Palestinian issue in which Hamas plays a part. Israel disengaged from Lebanon but that didn't solve the Syrian issue. Syria pushes Hezbollah.So they don't intend on leaving Israel alone.Israel, Syria and Palestinians don't agree on peace. So we're stuck in a violent loop.
21. Israel must listed to Lieberman
F ,   Chicago   (08.03.06)
only if Israel will be managed by right oriented leaders it may survive. as #8 said withdrewals from Lebanon and pull out from Gaza does not bring a peace... to have a peace with someone that someone must be a human.
22. we shall win the war
abu Hanud ,   Nablus   (08.03.06)
yes we shall win the war , in Lebanon and palestine , we shall destroy the settelment in west bank , we want our full right in the land >
23. Pat, you need to stop hearing and start listening.
Khalid   (08.03.06)
Stop repeating the same garbage - that you withdrew from Gaza and Lebanon - and start seeing the truth: Your soldiers still roam the Shebaa Farms and your Army still controlled Gaza's airspace, seaspace, and borders AFTER the withdrawal. And I'm starting to think they did it precisely for people like you, who would be able to argue that Israel left so why all the rockets? Maybe a true withdrawal from Gaza would've stopped Qassams or hostage taking, ever think of that one?! This is the problem with Israelis, you know that what we wanted was an end to Gaza's occupation and we would not fight you, then you keep control of Gaza's borders and air and you wonder why we didn't stop fighting you. It's odd, really.
24. #5, etc. No Such Thing As Peace With Animals. Well Proven!
H ,   Jerusalem   (08.03.06)
If The Bible considers Arabs Human Beasts, can we be smarter? Giving land for peace is not the solution. Appeasing beasts is not the solution. Try appeasing wolves with some vegetables. It doesn't work. Even if they'll get all of Israel - beasts stay beasts. If only the Jews would listen to what the Torah says...
25. Sheba and Gaza (Khalid #23)
Paqid 16, Netzarim ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (08.03.06)
The internationally-recognized border declares that the Shebaa Farms doesn't belong to Lebanon. If you don't like it take it up with the UN -- and Syria who also claims it -- but violating an international border to attack, kill and abduct the citizens of another country is illegal and an act of war. Anyone trying to justify that unprovoked act of war is a blood-thirsty, war-mongering, terrorist-supporting propagandist. As for Gaza, you flatly lie. Hamas, similar terrorist organizations and all of the Paleban who elected Hamas have often publicly declared their implacable mission to eliminate Israel, to NEVER stop fighting as long as Israel exists. You are no different from Khizb-Allah. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
26. To Khalid (23)
Shai ,   Israel   (08.03.06)
Khalid, very cute. Prove to every Jew who supported the withdrawal from Gaza that you'll use open borders with Egypt to bring in weapons, just as those who opposed the withdrawal asserted, and then blame Israel that it doesn't let you do it by air and by sea, even though you've tried many times to do so by sea. The weapons you'd bring in would be more lethal if we didn't control the sea and air. Use Egypt's airports and seaports, until you are ready to live peace, not just talk it. I'm beginning to think that bringing in weapons was done precisely for people like you, who would then be able to argue that Israel hasn't ended its occupation of Gaza, so that it could continue with rockets. There is nobody more desirous of ridding themselves of any obligation for Palestinians than Israelis. It is Palestinians who have an interest in maintaining either the status quo because they are a bellicose nation who hates Israel more than it loves itself, or a quo without Israel for the same reason. THAT's why we control Gaza's airspace and seaways. I mean, do you really propose that we would turn over the Gaza coastline, with all its gas assets, if we intended to retain our vigilance over your port eternally? The whole idea was that you'd stop the insurgency against us and make peace!!!! As far as Shaba farms, that's not Lebanon's concern. That's between us and Syria, and has been used as a pretext by Hizbollah to justify its continued existence after the pullout from Lebanon. You know that, but you ignore that. I'm beginning to think that the Shabaa farms issue was made up precisely for people like you, whod aregue that Israel didn't leave, so that they continue with rockets.
27. #22 Palestinian-We shall win the war
Sam ,   Canada   (08.03.06)
It's 58 years since Israel's creation. There's been war after war and you still havn't won and your not close to winning. Israel doesn't have the peace but it is a lot better off than you are.They live life to the fullest .In your stubborness to get everything you want, you can only dream about it.. End your bitterness and make the peace.
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