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Olmert: Send us ‘real soldiers, not pensioners’
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Published: 03.08.06, 09:54
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31. human thought trancends reality
brownbear ,   barcelona, spain   (08.03.06)
Human thought transcends into reality. You consciously think to let go of hate and stop the violence and it happens. When enough individuals believe this, there will be a tipping point in the consciousness of all people involved in this violence, that will lead to the path to peace. The past does not equal the future.... this means, stop looking to the past for a reason to hate and look forward into the future of peace. By shifting your perception it will form your ultimate reality. Visualise yourselves living in peace, and the path will be shown to you.
32. to 13
(08.03.06)
For your Information, Germany and Japan LOST WWII, and didn't have much choice. Israel didn't ignite this war - the Hezbollah did. Israel wants this war to be over. It requests : 1. a real international force will be deployed in Lebanon, and not the UN watchers who did absolutely nothing. 2. the terrorist organization called Hezbollah to be disarmed. for the second point as the whole world knows - it has to come from Iran and Syria. Two countries that do nothing for the peace in the Middle east. No one in Israel want to go war. It does not target civilians. Look what happened 6 years ago. Israel decided to get out of Lebanon, with the knowledge that the Hezbollah is still in control over Lebanon. It withdrew its military and gave the UN the power to control the border. What happened? The Hezbollah started to plan this attack Nasrallah even admitted that he planed this for so long. What do you want Israel to do? The north border was attacked, and two soldiers were kidnapped. Do you believe that Israel should have retaliated? This is exactly what gives the Hezbollah the encourage to continue its despicable attacks. They target civilians. They never said that they are fighting the Israeli army. They are aiming at cities to kill as many as they can. Its very easy to sit back and comment every "aggression" Israel does. But, as you know every coin has to ends. Israel should protect its border, and that what it has done.
33. To 28 (Shai)
Ibrahim ,   Lebanon   (08.03.06)
Does dignity means anything to you? That is what we won! We can build our country again and again and again and again ! You won nothing? What is the difinition of winning? Let me say you win if you manage to execute your targets? What was your targets in the first place (lets not talk about the continuious changes in targets) to destroy hizbollah and to stop the rocket? Right? what have you achieved? hizbollah is still there threatining your north. Regarding your possible war outcomes that you mentioned. That is exactly what lebanese and Hizbollah want. To release Shibaa Farms, and to release our POWs. If you do that Hizbollah would have no reason to exists! and Lebanese were just about to do that before this war. Hizbollah main targets since they existed were to free lebanese lands! and they did what they did to negotiate for the lebanese POWs. You could have put Hizbollah in great problems with Lebanese if you released Shibaa Farms and the POWs long time ago. Because then hizbollah would have no reasons to exisit infront of lebanese people. You did not do that .. you chose to destroy lebanon instead and here we are nothing changed. Are you realizing that ?
34. UN=Unwanted Nobodies
Noam "the man" Hayma ,   sydney australia   (08.03.06)
if you ever visit north Israel, the galil, the golan heights... the un soldiers pompously, arrogantly walk around as if tey own the place. the truth is they are useless.
35. to # 15 & 24
Ragusa   (08.03.06)
Who can read is definitely in the advantage. Why do you as a reflex focus on bombs when I specifically stated that bombing and shooting does NOT solve problems in the long term. What was done after WWII was that the loosing parties were given an opportunity to create a decent life, so they had something to loose. Israel has constantly exploited Gaza and its economy during its occupation. The World Bank even estimated that Israel had a negative investment flow into Gaza, meaning that all things considered, Israel made a profit on Gaza (higher taxes, cheap labour etc). Jennifer of Nahariya, I do not see the importance of residence, but just for you: Ashkelon.
36. Ali in Beirut
Jennifer Teff ,   Nahariya Israel   (08.03.06)
Do you understand that your country will not be safe when Hizbulla invades my country, kidnaps soldiers and then proceeds bomb us??? Get rid of the problem - Hizbulla who refuses to recognize my country at all and openly wants to destroy us and by the way doesn't care about you either - they are the arm of Iran and Syria - and then we can get on to the solution. If you can't get rid of Hizbulla, then we will do what we have to. It is your choice, you are either part of the problem or you are part of the solution. GOT IT??
37. #27 Hey baba
Pat ,   USA   (08.03.06)
Still have that flying carpet covering the floor of your cave? Israel could have have went over you people like a steamroller if they would have wanted to, but they look out for civilians, which you terrorists well know! For the immensely dense, Israel could control all of Lebanon at this very moment if they didn't care about civilians, and every islamic terrorist in Lebanon knows that FACT!
38. Ali, Beirut
DD ,   Kiryat Shmona   (08.03.06)
"From 2000 to 2006 No rockets landed on your settlements." Your head is obviously very far up Hizbolas arse. Since 200 there have been a number of kidnappings and kidnapping attemps . Since I returned from Canada in 2004, I recall 2 kidnapping attempts and 3 rocket attacks this last year alone. This just proves how much Lebanese people really know or believe what the Hizbolah tells them. It is expected of Israel not to harm any lebanese civilians (and the Hizbola is operating and HIDING amounst these same civilians), but it is exceptable for the Hizbolah to fire thousands of primative rockets purposefully at civilians, including arabs and recently palistinian territory ???? Just admit it, you are being spoonfed your thoughts or dont have the balls to stand up and say anything against this very sad sad excuse of an organisation, i.e. HIZBOLAH DD
39. To Daleem, Lebanon
DD ,   Kiryat Shmona   (08.03.06)
Well, if you read ALL the news here, you would know that one of the Canadian soldiers whos was killed wrote an e-mail telling his former commander that he feared for his life BECASUE the HIZBOLAH was running around in their base and using the UN base as a shield. Soon after Israels pullout in 2000, the hizbolah, dressed in UN uniforms and using UN vehicles, abducted Israeli soldeirs. This was filmed and witnessed by the UN, who only released this information and the video 2 years later, after the soldiers where murdered. Hizbolah fire rockets and then very quickly drive the truck into civilian houses. So who is to lame when that same house is destroyed ? Hizbolah or Israel ? I think the cowardly HIZBOLAH DD
40. To 29
Shai ,   Israel   (08.03.06)
Why can't they? A group that considers that Palestinians have a "right" to attack Israel because they elected a government democratically to do so, believes that right flows from their "democratic right". They believe that they have a "natural right" to kill civilians in Judea and Samaria because they consider this "fighting occupation", and not murder, even though they've had, and continue to have, the ability to negotiate final boundaries wthout resorting to war. They believe they have "sovereignty" on the Temple Mount when what they have is freedom to worship without undermining that freedom for others (though they do). They believe that suicide bombers are "martyrs" and "freedom fighters", not "terrorists". They believe that a fence used to protect our population from terrorists is an "apartheid wall". They've warped language for so many things by now, and have succeeded wildly beyond their imaginations in doing so, why SHOULDN'T they do this with the word "genocide" as well?
41. To 30
Shai ,   Israel   (08.03.06)
You kill Jews, or give cover for those who kill Jews, and then lament when they don't leave you unharmed for it. Maybe you really CAN believe it!
42. good on you noam hayman
someone ,   sydney australia   (08.03.06)
noam "the man" hayman is so smart shcoyach
43. Please
DD ,   Kiryat Shmona   (08.03.06)
Please tell me , one person in Lebanon, that your government or civilians did NOT know that the Hizbolah was building bunkers, traaining and bringing in arms to yor country. I find that very hard to believe, If you did know this, then are are just as much to blame for what is happening now. DD
44. Long arms of....
DD ,   Kiryat Shmona   (08.03.06)
I keep hearing claims that Israel is the arms of USA and Britain and that Hizbolah are the arms of Syria and Iran. I also hear the complainers sitting in their quite keyboard enviroment saying "keep us out of it" Well here is a solution; lets get rid of the "arms" and let USA/Britain and Syria/Iran go at it. Keep US out of it. DD
45. Ragusa of Ashkeon
Jennifer Teff ,   Nahariya Israel   (08.03.06)
Your example related to countries that had just suffered an enormous defeat. They weren't very cooperative before they were utterly defeated were they - hence the focus on the means of defeat. What has Gaza had since 1994 but one opportunity after another to create a decent life? They have received so much money for the EU and good faith from us. Have they done anything to better their conditions? Where is all of the money? It all went to private bank accounts and to buy weapons. After WWII the Jews didn't have anywhere near the conditions that the Palestinians have had and yet they created a decent life not only for themselves but for all of the Jews that have come since. What exactly are you suggesting that Israel do for Gaza? We can't build their state for them. All they have to do is to stop fighting us (which started when we actually did offer them practically everything over the green line). Don't you get it that if the Palestinians had a decent life, that would be the end of the conflict and so their leaders don't let that happen
46. To 33 - About Dignity
Shai ,   Israel   (08.03.06)
Screw your dignity, Ibrahim. Damned is your arrogance - IT, and not us, is the root cause of conflict in the Middle East. Maybe if you had a scintilla of humility so that you could accept Israel into the family of nations in the Middle East, we wouldn't have had to fight all these wars. Maybe if you had the ability to compromise, to give 3 yesses rather than 3 noes at Khartoum after the war of 1967, or to accept Barak's proposals for peace, rather than see everythng as an affront, or not good enough, thousands of yours and my people would still be alive today, and we, the entire Middle East, would be the envy of the world for what we could have achieved together. But no. Dignity is something that only Arabs deserve by way of your thinking. A state that is not like you is not be entitled to dignity. ANd therefore, you reduce everything to niggling over the "definition of winning" in an attempt to preserve what is left of it, or to acquire it. Believe what you ****ing want, Ibrahim -whatever makes you feel good. Just don't expect me to cooperate in the ruse. Anyway, you seriously believe that Hizbollah being a threat is "winning" after what you just lost? Your powers of delusion amaze. You believe that Shaba, which Israel offered to Syria as part of an almost complete pullout from the Golan Heights (it didn't include about 300 meters on the east shore of the Kinerret) under the Ehud Barak administration, is what keeps this conflict going? Or is it rather Arab absolutism and "dignity"? You are a very naive, misinformed person, Ibrahim. You are controlled by your blindness to the manipulation you are subject to by your leaders. The forces that keep this conflict going are precisely those that make you equate your pride with a defeat of Israel. It is those forces that make you aggrieved of our existence. If you seriously believe that surrendering land, or negotiations, or anything else will lead to peace then how can you explain that it hasn't been achieved yet? Before your world, the Arab and Islamic world, accepts that there need not be a war between the Western and Islamic civilizations, there will be war. And by the way, Hizbollah announced around the time that their policy about Shabaa farms was publicized that Shabaa farms was not the only property they were seeking. THIS, and Syria's refusal to say that Shabaa farms was Lebanese, is what prevented Israel from pulling back from Shabaa farms. The whole issue has "pretext" written all over it, and Israel wasn't about to get tied up in a string of compromises. When you and Syria decide who it belongs to, if its Lebanon's, I'm sure Israel will have no problem withdrawing in accordance with Resultion 425.
47. Too early for talks, move on IDF (End)
Hans ,   Germany   (08.03.06)
48. to Jennifer
Sarah ,   Canada   (08.03.06)
do u really beleive it is your country ??? You stole it from the Palestinian, your country doesn;t exist and you don;t know the meaning of country . too bad for you!!! how can you forget that this land was for the Palestinian . Poor people with very short memory
49. #10 & #12 Well said!
AB ,   The Rock   (08.03.06)
Walmart's forgotten our captured brothers and should practice what he preaches. We don't want a pensioner leader who is just out to have a good time giving freebies away. We want a responsible and courageous leader with brains!
50. #11
Baraa ,   baltimore, USA   (08.03.06)
Abraham wasn't a jew
51. anwser to # 19
B diddy ,   west baltimore, usa   (08.03.06)
I think we the U.S. should pay for it, because we paid for all the weapons that Israel uses to destroy the region, so i feel we have a responsibility to help stabalize the region.
52. to # 19
Jeff ,   Philadelphia, USA   (08.03.06)
Israel is not begging other countries to come. Other countries are begging Israel to stop, and are offering to send troops. Israel can protect itself as it has done its whole life. By the way, it has pulled out of Gaza and was planning to pull out of the West Bank. Don't blame Israel because its neighbors continue to attack it. Remember, Israel was in Lebanon because it was attacked. It was in Gaza because it was attacked. It is still in the WB because it was attacked, and it was planning to get out of the WB as it got out of Lebanon and Gaza. Israelis elected a government based on pull outs. Palestinians elected a government based on destruction and genocide. Israelis don't get joy from killing others; its neighbors dance in the streets when Jewish people die. If Europeans don't want to participate in this, then stay out of the way so Israel can defend itself.
53. 15000 UN SOLDIERS ARE COMING BUT.........
Lebanese ,   Lebanon   (08.03.06)
we lebanese suggest at the time when many countries including USA don't want to send their troops ,so let these to be 15000 IRANIANS .
54. European soldiers are NOT welcome
Larry ,   Eastbourne, UK   (08.03.06)
Europeans will see it as their role to protect the Hizbullah terrorists whose side they are on. Remember, the EU keeps attacking Israel over its self-defence operations and does not even acknowledge that Hizbullah is a terrorist organisation. So, as far as I am concerned, troops from the continent of genocide are definitely unwelcome.
55. to DD
Celine ,   Lebanon   (08.03.06)
To DD, go and browse the Irish times, and look at the articles where they say how much space HuzbAllah needs to launch missiles. It is definitely not from homes and buildings and not from a village like Qana who is small. They need an open ground and large space. So DD your government is manipulating you big times, they are taking you as fools. Pity on nation that follow sick governors. Plus, your high tech F16 is shooting everything but missing the target, I don’t know if the target of Olmert is to kill babies , women , and pregnant woman , do u know that your FAMOUS IDF , killed yesterday in Balbaack , a lady who was pregnant and going to the hospital to deliver, do u think when they saw her belly they though she is hiding a katyousha inside it ,WHAT A SHAME !!!!! YOU Israel people are the one who did the entire massacre, you stole a land, killed people to take their houses and still killing them and you are saying OH LOOK AT THE ARABS, you are people without a dignity. Anyway all of you came to Israel not for the sake of a country (who was stolen for the Palestinian) you came for the sake of money . And this primitive rocket you are talking about all the IDF force and all the technology you have is not being able to shoot it down. The war started from 23 days and you still see “ primitive rockets” hitting Israel 70 km from the borders. So you think your IDF is smart. They said it will take us few hours to clean everything then they talked about days then about weeks and yesterday they said 6 months. I assure you that if you will bomb us for years we will resist simply and still shoot you with katyousha because WE ARE LEBANESE.IT IS OUR LAND ( “our land” definitely it is not in your dictionary because you don’t know the word or the feeling because you simply stole a land and said it is yours) AND IT IS OUR RIGHT TO DEFEND IT FROM IGNORANT, STUPID PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
56. Israel and the world have a future response from DJ
Derek ,   Toronto, Canada.   (08.03.06)
Thank you Schulz for bringing up the subject of the GOD of Israel. My name is Derek and I am a believer of the Lord Jesus Christ. I believe that true internal and external peace comes from the Lord. As I study the Holy Bible more and more, it seems that this peace increases aswell. Jesus said that the scriptures (Old Testament) are they that testify of Him, John 6:39; and this is the absoulute truth. I have come to realize that when I put Jesus in the Old Testament it comes alive with precise accuracy. Whether it be the book of Genesis to the book of Malachi it is the infallible and inerrant WORD OF GOD. If you are a believer aswell you should also realize that GOD is in control of everything, and that we are not at war with the flesh but rather spiritual wickedness. You should also know that The Holy Spirit informed the Apostles of the second coming of Christ and the things that will take place around that time. Earthquakes in many places, diseases, famines, the seas and the waves roaring, brother against brother ( that doesn't mean the Christian brethren ). He ( the Holy Spirit ) said a lot about the things that was take place at the second coming, including the things that scoffers and non-believers will say, I believe there is also a prophecy of how some will be led away by sensual music . Some Interesting verses in the Old Testanent are Zechariah 12: 10 , 11 Isaiah 7:14; 9:6 Daniel 3:25 and this next one is really good if you would like to compare OT and NT scriptures, keeping in mind though that true knowledge and understanding only can come from the GOD of Israel ( Jesus ) if He so wills to bestow, Daniel 10:4-8; and the book of Revalations 1:12-17. Jesus Christ has appeared many times in the OT, these events are called Christophonies. I believe in the Holy Trinity and attend a Pentacostal Assemblies of Canada (P.A.O.C.) church, The pastor at the first PAOC church I attended is German and is a noble Christian. The Word of GOD ( Jesus ) is going forth in this world unincumberred, people are being changed just as the Lord said ' I will put My laws in their hearts and minds ' . So may the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Jesus) bless Israel, protect them, guide them, and hopefull may they have like me, the honour of an ever increasing relationship with the Creator, the One who sit on the Throne Of Truth And Righteousness
57. criminally insane
chaim   (08.03.06)
egyptian and saudi troops to protect our borders?is our so called p.m criminally insane ? g-d help israel,we are doomed with this government
58. # 14 Jamal: Perfect.
Tunisian   (08.03.06)
I liked the round numbers theory in particular....smart post .
59. # 52: I agree.
Tunisian   (08.03.06)
that Israel occupied parts of the middle east because it was attacked.................................................................................................................................in Germany.
60. DO LEBANESE HAVE ANY SAY!
Pacifist   (08.03.06)
I mean they get bombed and killed and then foreign crusader european troops show up! unbelievable! Ask what troops Lebanese want! Peace.
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