is it moral to let your own soldiers to die in vain?

The IDF said it all. "Why didn't we flatten it from the air. Olmert is a disaster and must be ousted immediately. IDF revolt against him. mutiny.

They are right the morality of the IDF is killing our soldiers, they need to destroy the villages and kill the terrorists before the soldiers enter

flattening villages?? are you mad?

The whole world is moaning about our use of excessive force, we may as well give them something to moan about. Just blanked bomb them and be done with it. Why worry about civilians when these savages are deliberately aiming for Israelis. Let's get off our high horse and bomb the bastards. Enough soldiers have died there, we will not tolerate anymore. ENOUGH!!!!!!!

It is a perversion of morality to value enemy population's lives and property over your soldier's lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One who is merciful to the cruel, is cruel to the merciful. We see this again and again and again.

...would involve fighting a real war, and bombing Lebanon into complete submission. To use an extreme example, the bombing of Hiroshima was ugly, but it probably SAVED many lives on BOTH sides. The Japanese, like Hizbollah were fanatics. Fanatics don't stop. A land invasion in Lebanon is immoral. End this war in one day with unrestricted arial bombing.

Today's Times contains an interesting article on how Hizbullah has kept Israel's army at bay. The main points are listed as anti-tank missiles, local knowledge, bunkers, motivation, snipers, rockets, roadside bombs and weapons dispersal. However, the authors fail to mention the most important reason, namely Israel's excessive morality and disproportionate restraint in fighting the war.

There is nothing moral about endangering our soldiers over concern for Lebanese Shiites - the enemy. Interestingly, no Torah leaders in Israel support this "morality".

YOU CALL YOURSELVES BRAVE SOLDIERS, ? THE ISLAMIC RESISTANTS DO NOT HAVE ANY JETFIGHTER, SO THEY WELCOMED YOU IN THE GROUND BATTLE !!! WHY YOU SO COWARDS TO MEET THEM THEIR ?

It is clear to me now that as Hizbollah terrorists are fighting a proxy war on behalf of Iran with Israel, Israel too is fighting a proxy war against Hizbollah or Iran on behalf of the United States of America! My question is why do we have to pay with Jewish blood a war that should have been fought by the U.S.? American should fight Iran head and head and should leave Israel and Lebanon stay out of it! Shalom

Your statement "one who is merciful to the cruel, is cruel to the merciful" is a pathetic example of pilpul. If you believe that crass and murderous statement, then you need much help with your mind.

why dont you guys just clear the are first b4 going in are u guys that lame...damn where are the marines..help them pls.

Level Lebanon. Also, nuke Damascus!

Don't let the deaths of the brave IDF soldiers be for nothing! national review online August 07, 2006 Dealing with the Devil A diplomatic disaster in the making. By Anne Bayefsky Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is on the brink of handing President Bush the worst diplomatic disaster of his presidency. She is poised to agree to two United Nations resolutions that will tie the hands of both Israel and the United States in the war on terror and, in particular, inhibit future action on its number one state sponsor — Iran. The catastrophe is the brainchild of Secretary General Kofi Annan, who has effectively turned the United Nations into the political wing of Hezbollah. In the last three weeks, a multi-headed hydra of U.N. actors has risen to defeat Israel on the political battlefield in an unprecedented disregard of the U.N. Charter’s central tenet: the right of self-defense. But how did the U.N. respond to the aggression against the U.N. member state of Israel, which was launched once again from Lebanese territory and which continues to the present hour? By accusing Israel of murder, mass genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, the deliberate attack of children, and racism. U.N. actors have even denied that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization and analogized it to anti-Nazi resistance movements... The Geneva Conventions clearly state that combatants are prohibited from using civilians as human shields, but if they do so, the presence of civilians does not render the area immune from military operations. Israeli soldiers and civilians are paying with their lives daily as a consequence of Israel’s efforts to avoid disproportionate action — a dramatic exercise of restraint taken in order to reduce Lebanese civilian casualties... The United Nations seeks to: (1) protect Hezbollah from further Israeli attacks; (2) produce a political win for Hezbollah by giving them the territorial prize of the Shebaa Farms ; and (3) increase U.N. presence, oversight, and control of the Arab-Israeli conflict. It calls for renewed involvement of UNIFIL, the U.N. troops that stood and watched Hezbollah rearm and plan its deadly assault on a U.N. member state for the last six years. Such an international force is to be authorized under the first-ever Chapter VII resolution — a legally binding resolution that can be implemented through sanctions or the use of force — in the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict. In other words, Secretary Rice has approved of a U.N.-authorized and monitored force that has its sights set on Israel too, coupled with a claim that Israel is currently engaged in “offensive” operations. The very U.N. that accuses Israel of murder and heinous violations of international law is now to be charged with judging compliance with a legally binding instrument purporting to define the terms and conditions of Israel’s self-defense... There will be only one sure result of this move — the empowerment of terrorists whose ultimate target is the United States and all democratic values. Secretary Rice’s belief that there is a serious convergence between the United Nations agenda and American foreign-policy needs in the age of terrorism is a profound error in judgment for which democratic societies everywhere will be forced to pay a heavy price. http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODQyMGNlYWM5NzIzZGFhOTNlZDAxMmM2YTRkOWRjYzE=

Absolutely RIGHT.

forget this MORAL WAR CRAP. Sorry but Hezzbollah is complicit in their firing from residential areas and storing missiles in residential areas. OUR GUYS (& gals) LIVES MATTER MORE !!! None of the Shuki Crap (he needs to be deprogrammed NOW - or out immedialtely)- saying "we took a village" - when all we did was surround it ??? !!!!, and then we get killed by TANDEM RPGS, and mortars launched into staging buildings ??? !!! TZAHAL KILLED FOR WHAT - some humanity blessed upon LUNATICS ??? Screw the bastards with ALL our might and get the JOB # 1 DONE - Stop the MIssiles ONCE and FOR ALL. This is NOT a prayer mission, nor a Photo Opportunity, nor a launching Pad for Wannabee Politicians to Claim that "Nassrallah will KNOW PERETZ" ( may he rue the day for ever saying that crap ) Pardon my French for a MOMENT - BUT GODDAMMIT - KILL THE BASTARDS AND KILL EM LIKE THE IRGUN WOULD. The PROUD DEFENSE tradition of the IRGUN, not the weak navel gazing moralizing of today !!! AS late as it is By Now, if it takes NAPALM - USE IT and screw the damm lunaitics of Hezzbollah. It is the ONLY Message they will ever understand. People who wish ISREAL DEAD, are not to EVER, NEVER BE TREATED WITH THE HUMANITY THEY DON'T DESERVE. Don't forget that for a damm nanosecond - Never Forget !!! SHAUL And BIBBI KNOW THIS IMPLICITLY. Peretz is a screwup, Ohlmert is complicit, and SHAUL NEEDS TO DO THE JOB OF SURVIVAL LEADERSHIP WE ALL NEED. NOW - NOT LATER WHEN WE"D HAVE TO SHOOT OVER THE HEADS OF the UN ( yet again - that is sick ). ACHSHAV , Not later in eternity.. B ' Hatzlacha !!!

It seems to me that the government and the IDF command are being negligent in protecting the lives of the IDF troops -- the job of the government of Israel is to protect ISRAELI lives.

On 07.27 and 07.30 I implored: In villages where residents were warned to leave, those remaining were either prevented by Khizb-Allah or they are enemy and must all be killed or captured with minimum risk to Israeli soldiers. Israel has an obligation to defend herself. If it's standing, blow it down before exposing soldiers. If it's a hole, drop ordinance in it from the air before exposing soldiers. If it breathes without surrendering, kill it before exposing soldiers. I did what I could. I'm only sad our leaders didn't heed it. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

Your brave terrosrists are paid by Iran to fight until the last lebanese you are cancer ill , you cannot see that you about to die because you support ass rallah a man from teheran not really looking for your well being . Do you think Israel will let your brave islamo terrorist to terrorize Israel civilians ? . Think again before too late , throw away these dangerous bandits . there are paid to fight , you not your country and your family will be destroyed because you have very bad friends. Are you so crazy ? Israeli do not want to destroy Lebanese lifes , but you have deadly bad friends , try to put some distance with them , so you will survive the ouragan coming soon to you

Rustum's 'morality' leads to the current situation in the UK where the Muslims run rampant and plan to bomb UK citizens in the skies with no protest Left wing drivel 'morality' is a prescription for suicide and the perpetuation of evil. Morality is destroying the evildoers and protecting your own. The IDF leadership and the Israeli leadership will be judged for their cruel mercy on the enemy at the expense of the innocent Israeli soldiers.

People in Israel seem to be living in their own bubble of racist hate. It is quite amusing that they think of IDF as a moral army, when a vast majority of world population thinks it's completely immoral. More than 1000 Lebanese civilians killed, billions of infrastructure damage because of 2 soldiers kidnapped? Only people, who think that "others" are non-humans, can call that moral. Those who call for carpet bombing, nuking and flattening of Lebanon deserve the same treatment themselves. You should treat others as you like yourself to be treated or suffer the consequences. You haven't given diplomacy any priority while focusing on killing civilians, so don't be surprised that everyone hates you.

will save soldiers lives and finish the job sooner,why the hell olmert /peretz dont do that already. Will they keep worrieng about world opinion meanwhile our owns die????

The IDF is fighting for the survival of ISRAEL>>>>>CUT THEM LOOSE and let the mission succeed.....HEZBULLAH LIVES BREATHES AND KILLS..THE PLAGUE OF EVIL MUST BE ERADICATED...SEND THEM TO ALLAH..TO BE SORTED OUT FOR REWARD..OR NOT

How uncivilized those who ask to flatten the villages.... don't they know that they did that already? The other funny claim by the ITF is that they are doing their best to avoid civilians while Hizballah is only killing civilians.. Reuters defats this lie and show that: The war has cost the lives of at least 1,011 people in Lebanon, mostly civilians, and 121 Israelis, mostly soldiers. Humm amazing who is liying here about that.. Israeli terrorist army is. You have flattened Lebanon many times, haven't you learned that peace comes from being human and not by war machine? Wake up guys. Learn from history

Fight this war with restraint,,and you will loose this war. Plain and simple -survival of the fittest, strongest, and most determined. Not survival of the most intelligent and moral. In the end, the nations will live and be happy with the winner, no matter who they are, Israel or Hisbollah. Wake up, you Politically Correct morons.