Opinion  Sever Plocker
Us and the world against Hizbullah
Sever Plocker
Published: 13.08.06, 18:09
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31. To number 2
Chris ,   LA   (08.14.06)
The problem won't be over till Israel gives the Palestinians a viable state, gives back Shebaa and the Golan heights. Also, if Assad was toppled somehow (looks very unlikely now) then Huzb Allah, not recieving arms will have to resort to older more violent methods. If that happens, the Moughniya wing will overtake the Nasrallah wing and they'll go around bombing Israeli embassies, consualates and cultural centers around the world again from Argentina to Zimbabwe (I actually don't know if Israel and Zimbabwe have diplomatic relations)
32. ?
Wayne ,   USA   (08.14.06)
What was the goal? revenge(eye for eye) or establishing peace for the people of Israel? or is it just the natural reaction that if someone punches you, you punch them back . before you even think about it? all of my personal feelings aside, I really want to know what the average Israeli feels will be different after this time?
33. The World does not laugh at Hezbollah
Hans ,   Amsterdam, The Nethe   (08.14.06)
Hezbollah needed support and ISRAEL got support from the USA.. Flights from the US with wapons landed in England for refueling and on to Israel. There would not be an Israel if the USA didn't support them 100%. Israel is Nothing without the US, they depend on them. The West, including Israel, prefer to see Hezbollah as 'terrorist' rather than what they really are - a legitimate resistance to the Occupation of their country by Israel. Hezbollah has prevented Israel from dismembering Lebanon and confined their advance to a few miles across the border.
34. hezbollehs victory a fools wish
ny lion ,   nyc   (08.14.06)
since this moron nasralleh decided to kill and kidnap isaeli soldiers the wrath of the isaeli military has come upon his followers and lowlife rat army.there army has lost 600 men and who knows how many more are buried under the rubble of his terror towns and villages.i feel for the brave young sabras who gave there life for the sake of israel but its true in all of israels wars this is un avoidable.the slow deployment was due to the fact that these vermin were hiding behind woman and children and the idf took its time to save these so called citizens of hezbolleh land.now the world knows the little value these radical muslim rats can give to the free society.they suck oil out of the ground and terrorise those of truely inspired ability.the history of the jewish peaple like chagall,modigliani jonas salk,heifitz,einstien,ben gurion, business peaple like dell computer,samuel goldwyn in hollywood,bloomberg our great mayor etc can never be shaken by the nasrallehs of the world who add nothing but misery to the lives of there followers.all jews shoud stand united around israel remember divided we are twigs but united a mighty oak tree. p.s. i still miss sharon a great man.
35. nadia
Joe ,   Melb. Aust   (08.14.06)
Ynet, you published the outragous poem from Nadia yet I can not see my response that.
36. No.20
Deeman ,   A US educated Arab,   (08.14.06)
Your comment shows a true Yankee mentality. Obviously you are watching Fox or CNN. May be you can invest some time in watching other channels to see whether Sayed Hassan Nasurullah is really being pittied. I invite you to read and think as these are two weaknesses that your administration is counting on i.e. to be an airhead.
37. Double Dutch
Susan ,   WAshington/USA   (08.14.06)
I think your version is missing something-truth. You are guilty of double talk. You base your view of things on the fact that you don't think Israel has a right to exist. Therein lies your problem. They have as much right as you to exist on this planet. You can delude yourself into thinking Hezbollah are "legitimate" - there is nothing legitimate about those who disrespect life. So, Israel's planes only run on England gas? They only shoot our weapons? Doesn't matter whose guns or gas helped. They had their strength and courage and faith to help them fight. OF course, Hezbollah doesn't know about any of these things. Stand behind Hezbollah and they move aside and let YOU take the bullet. Are YOU willing to die for cowards? How precious is your life to you? How much does LIVING mean to you? You put your faith in people who would put women and children in harm's way. Would you put your wife or daughter in front of you as a shield? They would.
38. Very perceptive analysis
Stewart ,   USA   (08.14.06)
This is a very perceptive analysis. Only time will prove it is correct. By the way, you know you're correct when a bunch of mishuguna Muslims rant and rave against you. To bad, Nadine, you didn't have an IAF bomb dropped on your head. You seem only one step away from strapping a bomb belt. Save us from your poetry. As far as the world,s opinion and perception is concerned, Jews have learned to make their own destiny. It is the real results, not the perception that leads to succesful survival. We're not running a popularity contest. I suppose Abraham should have worried about what the world thought when he decided idolitry was a fraud. He would have quit if he followed the polls, and civilization would still be sacrificing babies.
39. What i told you?
Micheew ,   Germany   (08.14.06)
I told you that -we will loose -this is not a war for us, they have 'unknown weapons" -we have to negociate, to give them back their prisoneers and return home ours -we have to leave shebba farms -we have to do peace with Syria, it is not impossible -we have to stop to be arrogant -we have to try to create "new" relationships with arabs -we have to take care of US mentality -we have to respect our neighboors -we have to understand the source of the problems of the ME area and try to solve it -we have to understand the arab mentality instead of changing it -we have to understand that if we give him a part of what they ask for, we will have peace -we have to understand that we have no choice, if we want PEACE -we have to help them in the subjects where the are in need (finance) -we are a minority -hizbullah is not a terrorist party, it is a restance created by our domination, a natural thing BELIEVE ME, WE HAVE TO RE-STUDY our subject -in summary, we have to give up our arrogant mentality thanks a lot for your attention
40. the israeli army isn't destroyed...
brandon ,   ny,usa   (08.14.06)
how could you even say that when they're alive and well. the casualties in this war sustained by the israeli army aren't more than 200. get your facts straight. arabs will support hezbollah because you prefer fighting and hatred to peace. if you cared for peace or humanity you would fight those who preach this hatred and disarm. israel will always fight to defend itself. violence causes more violence. and both sides have given and received plenty of violence. look at who's plotting who's destruction here. really. israel isn't actively plotting to attach and destroy arab nations. be serious. the arab nations are the aggressors and it's honestly a shame to take a religion such as islam which has so many peaceful aspects and use it as a driving force for hatred, pain and suffering for people on every side of the battle. want to be brave??? FIGHT FOR PEACE IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITY!!! text can be interpreted many ways. look within your religion and your basic human beliefs and support LIFE. co-existence... understanding even. stand up for what's right... not what's popular.
41. Airhead
Susan ,   WAshington/USA   (08.14.06)
Nothing wrong with 'Yankee mentality' - it must have been all right for you to subject yourself to it since you didn't get your education in your OWN country. That must have been hard for you, having to endure us Yankees enough to suck an education out of here. BTW - airhead is the wrong term here. We do pity people who can't grasp just how important it is to respect life. If your religion says you need to kill anyone who isn't like you then you are trying to purify with filth. A little contrary don't you think? You didn't learn THAT here.
42. Us and the world?
Sher   (08.15.06)
No, us and the US government. The rest of the world is pretty disgusted on the whole.
43. Who Won?
mike matters ,   London   (08.15.06)
Beirut....look around you and tell me who won. As you live by candlelight and wonder why the tourists are gone....tell me who won. As you walk through the rubble of your buildings and the lives ruined tell me who has won. Nasrallah has hijacked your beautiful country...FOR WHAT? If you want your electricity turned on call Iranian Electric...06.324.67859
44. agree with #15 100%
Isaac ,   Ny USA   (08.15.06)
israel is not defeated and will never be defeated. hezbollah will be defeated soon enough. usa will help israel defeat hezbollah ...... Israel....."Come on world! The Muslim faith and the Arab nations have been taken over by nuts and they have no spine whatsoever " (# 15) .......very true.....israel is sooo much better..........ISRAEL!!!!!!
45. # 39. you make total sense
Ezan   (08.16.06)
finally someone that makes sense.
46. Did you say 'Nobel Prize', Lee? #15
Pierre ,   Paris, France   (08.16.06)
Am I dreaming? Did you say 'Nobel peace prize winners'? I recommend you to forget the astute question you asked to your 'Darling'. I am sorry to say that Arafat (guess with whom)was a Nobel peace prize winner whose name was unexpected by the gentle, learned, open-minded man you are. Please believe me, Arafat is the lesser name, despite he fits with your criteria for culture and intelligence. Self-sufficiency has outlived its usefulness. If I had time to spare, provided that you could invest much money, I'd be willing to teach you a little bit of accurate culture. Very helpful whenever you pretend to deal with what 'benefits all mankind'. By the way, I could mention scores of really brainy Americans. They're getting fewer. Some even live in NYC. Let go on trying to meet them.
47. to #46, you missed the point Pierre
Mark ,   USA   (08.17.06)
It is absolutely true that Yasir won the Nobel prize for Peace. The Nobel prize is given in all areas ( i.e. Peace, Science such as Physics, Biology, Medicine, Chemistry, also literature, arts ect. ) In the last almost 100 years Muslims with 1.2 billon people worldwide have received maybe 5 Nobel winners and none in medicine or science . The jewish people about 20 million worldwide have received dozens of Nobel prizes and have won in all areas. So outnumber 60 to 1 by the muslims worldwide the jewish people have produced over 10 times as many nobel winners. #15's point was muslims in the last 100 years have as their main contribution terrorism and a "culture of death" mentality. Please don't believe me, surf the web for a list of all Nobel prize winners - see for yourself - how little muslims have given the world.
48. Occupied People have a Right To Defend Themselves
V. Riede ,   Boston   (08.22.06)
"Occupied people have the right to resist the occupation itself, as well as the specific illegal practices of the occupier." -United Nations Charter Article 1(4) of Protocol I (additional to the Geneva Conventions) considers self-determination struggles in the context of international armed conflicts: the principle of self determination itself provides that where forcible action has been taken to suppress the right, force may be used in order achieve self determination. The legal status of combatants for the right to self-determination was defined by the General Assembly in 1973 according to the following principles: United Nations High Commission on Human Rights Fact Sheet on International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights: http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu6/2/fs13.htm - Such struggles are legitimate and in full accord with the principles of international law. - Attempts to suppress struggles against colonial and racist regimes are incompatible with the UN Charter, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples. Such attempts themselves constitute a threat to peace and security.
49. Hizbullah won, morally and militarily.
MY ,   Canada   (08.29.06)
Two conclusions after this war: 1) Hizbullah had proven that they a true, organized, and humane popular resistance. 2) Israel is a rogue state and the best depiction of state terrorism. (1300+ innocent civilians killed...etc.)
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