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Clinton: Circumcision - the answer to AIDS
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Published: 16.08.06, 10:29
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61. Bullocks!
Derek Meek ,   Ames, Iowa   (08.17.06)
Every study in the history of medical science to support circumcision as "cleaner", "safer", etc have all been soo poorly performed to as be a crime. CIRCUMCISION HAS NO BENEFITS - it is genital mutilation, plain and simple. Performing it on a minor (one less than 18 years of age) should be considered a capital offense. You Jewish people who wish to, voluntarily, have it performed on yourself can wait until your 18. CIRCUMCISION HAS NO BENEFITS - It causes MANY problems http://www.noharmm.org/advantage.htm PS: Anyone who tries to accuse others of being antisemitic for opposing circumcision is themselves the bigot. I oppose circumcision, I don't give a shit about your religion, your ethnicity, or anything else. You're not the center of the universe, get over yourself.
62. re: 55
Derek Meek ,   Ames, Iowa   (08.17.06)
Circumcision is NOT healthier for males and it is NOT "a little skin" - http://www.noharmm.org/snip.htm - it contains 2/3rds of the erogenious nerves of the penis. The practice had been discontinued in the west and restarted in the late victorian era as a "cure to masturbation" since THEY KNEW IT REDUCED SEXUAL PLEASURE CIRCUMCISION IS GENITAL MUTILATION - THERE ARE NO BENEFITS. ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS EITHER A LIAR, OR SIMPLY MISINFORMED (the vast majority being the latter)
63. conspiracy
non-jew non-am   (08.17.06)
monika told him so; a jewish-am. one.
64. Foreskin Jokes
Funny Bone ,   TLV   (08.17.06)
Uses of foreskin: 1- Chewing gum for gay guys 2- Nice leather wallet which if sensually rubbed grows into a suitcase
65. Doctors Opposing Circumcision
Derek Meek ,   Ames, Iowa   (08.17.06)
http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/ take the quiz! http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/DOC/circumcision_quiz.htm
66. #64 uninformed
Derek Meek ,   Ames, Iowa   (08.17.06)
visit http://www.noharmm.org/advantage.htm and get yourself an education
67. Circumstitions HIV claims page
Derek Meek ,   Ames, Iowa   (08.17.06)
http://www.circumstitions.com/HIV.html
68. Derek, get over yourself
Michael U ,   SF,CA   (08.17.06)
You are not the center of the universe. The practice of Circumcision has been safely practiced for well over 3000 years. Regardless of whether you like it or not, you are not the one who makes the rules. You don't believe in G-d, too bad... G-d gave you free will to decide whether to believe or not, you chose the wrong side. I know several doctors who claim that circumcision does promote better health and prevent STD. You may google all you like, find all the antisemetic propaganda out there and come to your conclusion... WHO CARES!?! I for one don't, because your opinion is so insignificant as to be amusing. You are so full of yourself, but you blame the Jewish people... Shame on you...
69. I have good feeling about Circumcised Presidents
Monica L. ,   USA   (08.17.06)
70. Derek Meek you are a Freak
Kate ,   Jerusalem   (08.17.06)
The opinions you express are unfounded and ridiculous. If you want you can find doctors and web pages claiming that copper bracelets cure cancer. Sorry - but the mainstream medical community world wide recognizes circumcision for what it is - a practise that has known health benefits - and does not include mutilation. It's simply the removal of skin. That's all. There are even boys who are born circumsized (though this is not common). Removing a foreskin does not in any way shape or form remove any nerves or nerve tissue or anything other than skin. There is no mutilation involved in circumcision. I live in a household of medical people and am VERY familiar with the subject. And my family members don't write web editorials about it - they publish in publications that are respected in the world of informed medical science.
71. Clinton Neutered?
Clinton Neutered? ,   USA   (08.18.06)
Clinton is a payed lobbyist for the Government of the United Arab Emiriates. Or is it Qatar? What a disgrace that a former US president is a paid whore of an Arab government. Forget about curing AIDS, let's cure ourselves of Clinton by having him neutered! (What do Monica and Hillary say about this?)
72. Circumcision to prevent AIDS
Shawn Portela ,   Denver, CO USA   (08.18.06)
My research team and I have discovered an even more effective means of prevention.......we suggest sewing shut all vaginas, anus' and mouths on any and all females even remotely attractive. We also suggest cutting off fingers to prevent the possibility of frostbite. Thank you.
73. Hey, Kate from Jerusalem:
Bettie Malofie ,   Springfield, Canada   (08.18.06)
Did you know that "the world of informed medical science" - your words - gave a Nobel Prize to the doc who came up with the idea of lobotomy as a cure for mental illness/neurosis? Yipper! And these are the folks YOU trust with the care of the male reproductive system. I don't know...
74. I like my foreskin...
Nate ,   Pennsylvania   (08.18.06)
It's attractive.
75. Derek are you a victim of a botched circumcision?
R ,   FL, USA   (08.18.06)
Just curious as this seems to be a very important issue to you. I read your links and just had to giggle at the multiple references to "unrecorded deaths" resulting from circumcision. The first time I've ever heard anyone use "unrecorded" evidence to support an argument. Interesting debate tactic, they make good points...until they completely discredit their argument in my eyes by cited "unrecorded" complications. Easy to counter the argument though, just simply quote some "unrecorded" evidence that supports the other side and we can all be on a level playing field. Sounds like the arguments the Jihadists use.
76. long live gods law of circumsision
brendon ,   sydney nsw   (08.18.06)
isnt it amazing how the more so called christians write of gods law the more modern man through scientific reseach finds that that he didnt give it for no reason and usually we find that its for more than one reason its isnt just a sign that you belong to him and keep the his eternal covernant but also to protect us from diseases people of the world should prove all things and look into and study the benifits of obediance while on this subject have a look into the negative affects of eating filfy swine flesh .you all have computers and as it is written in the latter days knoledge wiil increase give it a try and be blessed by obediance the his perfect law
77. #36 get out of your comfy city living and you will need the
brendon ,   sydney nsw Australia   (08.18.06)
maybe there isnt that much scientific proof out there but i will tell you this if you were to live in a harsh outback or tropical enviroment it is only a matter of time before you need one due to infection you will get the aboriginees in my country had been doing it for hundreds of years using an oyster shell and hundreds of men who served in vietnam had to have it done ,now that would hert " at that age also lots of young boys need it done and elderly men in my country because of infection how on earth could you say that there is no evidence for benifits
78. Circumcision is NUTS
Anonymous ,   New Orleans USA   (08.19.06)
Only a bunch of crazy Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc would remove the foreskin! It's not dead, GOD PUT IT THERE, if you remove it for no reason you are spitting in GOD'S FACE. The foreskin PROTECTS FROM AIDS. If you crazy people want to do it, fine, don't try to justify it to the rest of the SANE WORLD.
79. It's always the right time to get circumcised
Dave ,   Southampton, UK   (08.19.06)
Circumcision can be carried out at any age and provides considerable protection against AIDS and other STDs. I was not circumcised until I was 57, but have since found it better in every way. Now I wish I'd had it done about 50 years sooner. To those in any doubt, my advice is: GET IT DONE!
80. To #74, Nate
(08.19.06)
I hate to burst your bubble dear, but most women find it really unattractive when men aren't circumcised. And that goes for non-Jewish women too.
81. Plenty of Dicks, Not Enough Mohels.
Adam Bennett ,   LA, USA   (08.20.06)
Tell the president that we know already from his administration, himself personally that there are indeed plenty of dicks in the world, but not enough mohels to do the job.
82. Clinton: Circumcision - the answer to AIDS
Monica ,   Dallas, USA   (08.25.06)
Maybe some of this negative energy could be put to better use by helping people, like President Clinton is trying to do. At least he is doing SOMETHING to help others. I thank God that He is a forgiving God and loves ALL of us that have made mistakes and sinned! He loves ALL of us!
83. #70 Kate's delusions, or lies?
Whole Man ,   Tallahassee, USA   (08.31.06)
Delusion, or lie: "...the mainstream medical community world wide recognizes circumcision for what it is - a practise that has known health benefits" Fact: No national or international medical organization in the world recommends circumcision of healthy people. Many recommend increasingly strongly against it, especially in children where no legal, informed consent of the person to be mutilated is possible. Delusion, or lie: " - and does not include mutilation." Fact: Unnecessarily cutting or amputating any healthy organ of the body mutilates it. Delusion, or lie: "It's simply the removal of skin. That's all. ... Removing a foreskin does not in any way shape or form remove any nerves or nerve tissue or anything other than skin." Fact - Science now knows that the highest density and number of nerve endings in the human penis are found in a human sense organ new to science in the 1990s called the "ridged band" or "sexual eye", which is located in the mucosal tissue of the inner foreskin. See http://research.cirp.org Circumcision amputates skin, muscle, nerve, blood vessels, and immune system cells, among other complex and important parts of the penis. Delusion, or lie: "There is no mutilation involved in circumcision." Fact: Kate seems to know almost nothing about penises except how to spred misinformation about them. When people deliberately spread delusions we call it "lying". Question: Is Kate telling what she has deluded herself into believing, or is she deliberately lying? Answer: I don't know.
84. ignorant fools
Richard Russell ,   Moreno Valley, CA US   (08.31.06)
MIchael U writes: "The uncircumcised are ignorant fools. . ." This shows one of the worst things about circumcision. Men who have been circumcised are so desparate to validate the loss of part of the penis that they have to denigrate those who are not circumcised. This is blatant bigotry. Worldwide, 80% of males are NOT circumcised. Are they all "ignorant fools?" I'll have to tell my in-laws in Thailand about what Michael U thinks of them. I'm sure they'll be happy to know his opinion of them. Western Europe and Japan have virtually no circumcison, yet have very low rates of HIV/AIDS. The US has a mostly circumcised male population and has one of the highest rates of HIV/AIDS in the world, and the very highest rate of any industrialized country. Please tell me, where do the ignorant fools live?
85. Why circumcise?
Denny P ,   Paris, France   (09.03.06)
This has become a controversial topic! It's a fact that 80-85% of the men in the world have NOT been circumcised and that NO medical organization in the world recommends it. I taught at the University of Paris 6 medical school for 2 years, and when we were studying the case of David Reimer (whose penis was destroyed during a circumcision), the students were astounded to learn that circumcision is so common in the U.S. "Why?" they wanted to know. Circumcision is NOT taught at this medical school, and it was clear that none of the male students or boyfriends and male relatives of the female students were circumcised (except for Jewish and Muslim students). Christians in Europe do NOT circumcise. None of my male doctor friends nor their sons are circumcised. Sure there can be infections, but then that is why we have soap and water for personal hygiene. (Infections are also a problem if you don't clean your toenails, too.)
86. There is ZERO logic behind circumcision
J. F. ,   Kennewick, WA USA   (10.19.06)
The pertinent part of male genitalia that is being removed in circumcision is actually biologically very similar to the skin the covers a female's sensitive part. If women don't need to cut off the skin covering their sensitive part in order to be clean and healthy, then men do not either. I'll let religious groups do whatever they want to do, but there is NO good evidence that circumcision is better for your health, your hygiene, your sensitivity, or your functioning. It's plain common sense. See cirp.org if you need to educate yourself.
87. Bill Clinton, You LIE!
Robert ,   Phoenix, AZ   (07.13.10)
Yet another lie from the mouth of Slick Willy. You can always tell when he's lying --- his lips are moving.
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