and increase their chances of entering new work sectors. Unlike the Haredim, most want to contribute.

It doesn't make any sense not to identify with a country and "love" profiting its benefits. Arabs have 22 countries to identify,they shouldn't live in a Jewish State. If they do not leave,they should be put(forced) to leave by the state of Israel. About ultra ortodoxes,being them Jews,I think the talks should be deeper with them,in order them to understand it is not fair to usufruct from a country and don't accomplish their duties,especially being it a Jewish State. If they keep insisting against Israel's right to be and do not compromise a bit ,they should be invited to leave the country . And Israel should have always in mind the arab/muslim populational threat for the country ,in the near future,competing with Jews,and take preventive measures to avoid it,if it desires to keep being the Jewish State as it is meant. I see this way.

The ultra-orthodox is a big threat to the minister because most of them are deeply committed to what they believe. Their committment is to a higher level of philosophy which modern people hold with disdain. The modern belief in the almighty computer and other forms of communication which take hold and manipulate the worshippers has no basis in philosophy or thinking. People who think have become a dangerous lot because they know the fakery, lies, and deceit of this era in history. The minister prefers, no doubt, the induction of brain-washing curriculum in which no thinking is necessary, no internalization is necessary. SHE WILL FIND A LEGAL WAY OF SILENCING THE ULTRA ORTHODOX. For thousands of years, the world has been trying to get rid of the Ultra Orthodox.? The minister needes to internalize Jewish History to understand the potential repercussions of her plan.

I'm all for it. At least they'll be helping the country, unlike the Ultra-Orthodox who do nothing.

is israel a jewish state or a state in which jews can live? does the united states of america shut down jewish schools? does israel take orthodox jewish money to shut down orthodox jewish schools? what a hideous anti-religious thought!!!

and that's when you'll finally reap all the nachat and won't need to "worry". (By ultra-orthodox, I don't mean the Netura Katura sect who are excommunicated by the Rabbis worldwide)

Yet another completely ignorant and revisionist comment from Sao Palo. As for your ridiculous comment about "Arabs having 22 countries... they shouldn't live in a Jewish state" - this brand of fascist tribalism died in 1945 yet it has not yet percolated into tiny minds. What a sad state of affairs, when Miss Sao Paolo sits thousands of miles away declaring who should be deported and who might be allowed to stay. The Nazi/Stalinist huge deportations of their alleged 5th column populations (the Tatars, the Jews, etc) and the viscious wars waged by Serbia against its non-ethnic populations have all gone down in history as crimes against humanity. What a great pity that we still have so many reactionary morons in the world, not afraid to broadcast their own stupidity and racial supremacist ideologies by writing notes such as #2.

When people are working in Israel for integration, to attempt to bridge the gap between the rulers and the ruled and when people are responding positively to this initiative, it seems even more evil, wicked and vile, for the Sao Paulo person to sneer at this path to peace and to carry on calling for expulsions. The world needs greater integration, greater cooperation and fewer "population transfers" as ethnic cleansing is euphemistally called by the right wing Zionist parties.

I agree with you,and I like very much the Haredim-each day more,since I started joining them;especially the Hassidim. But,as you say,the kinds of Naturei Karta are pernicious for Israel, because they seem to hate it.I meant these types.Just to clarify.

They want to destroy Israel. All Arabs(not Druze) must leave!!!!!!

When Kadima first came to power, Olmert declared war on the Jews. Do people have such short memories? Israel is FOR the Jewish people, paid for with not only their money, but with their blood, sweat and tears. When will the liberal elites start realising that Israel is a Jewish state and isn't Europe or America, whom they're always trying to please??? Antisemitism is at an all time high in Europe right now, and Israel's government has made sure that it's not a safe place for Jews to seek refuge. The government should resign now!

Education Minister Yuli Tamir sounds another of Olmert's idiots. Firstly, her vision is miskewed. Arab girl next to Orthodox sounds good only on paper. Secondly, Israeli arabs should only work within their own communities. Thirdly, Orthodox Jews are holding this entire country together, are guaranteed education (although given little of what they deserve) and many of these girls do indeed already work in hospitals, teach or in other public sectors. So, what is her problem? Trying to make the world love her? This is not solution. Instead, let her implement policy that monies be used to TEACH ALL JeWISH ISRAELI CHILDREN OUR HISTORY/ OUR TORAH, then the mitzvot these jobs are will be filled voluntarily. You catch more flies with honey, Yuli, not with stupidity or force. Instead, Orthodox will run. You and Olmert are racists amongst your own people. Why not just put them all into ghetto? Kein Yirbu, this year 25%, next year 35%!!

How are the Ultra-Orthodox "holding this country together?" To me it looks like they sit and study at their Yeshivot, do not serve in the army, and leech the benefits of the state without giving anything in return. And by the same token that you call Olmert and Yuli Tamir racists, are the Ultra-Orthodox not exactly the same? Where is the equality when they sit and read their Torah while the blood of secular Jews is spilled to protect them? I fear the day when the Ultra-Orthodox are the majority in Israel (and I fear that day will come) for, then, who will serve in the army? Who will keep the state alive politically? How will Israel ever become a modern, functioning democracy? The answer to these questions is simple: It will not. Knowing this brings both sadness and fear into my heart. I am scared and saddened of what may become of the country that I so dearly love.

Why not tie all the ridiculous and costly social welfare belefits the Arab Israelis get to government service. If they don't serve, they don't get any more handouts...

7/8 talks about greater integration, tolerance and basically the solution to the world's problems being the One world/one state solution. This is merely fascism in the guise of "equality" which may exist "ideologically" but not in the real world. Tell the arab states that love tolerance and allow many churches and synagogues to be built alongside of their mosques. Tell the arab states who have become rich, but whose peope remain uneducated and poor. There is not such thing as "democracy" or "equality" for minorities, women, ideas, etc in the arab states. Which arab state is the champion of integration? #2 has the right idea because the arab israeli doesn't want to participate as an equal in the Jewish State, he/she wants to have Israel ... all of it, call his own...without jews, christians and other non-muslim minorities. Get a grip. Population exchanges have worked many times in history, most recently between Turkey and Greece. It's the only rational solution if Jews are to be secure and live in peace and it can be done in a fair and equitible way.....

Postscript...tribalism is a good thing...it's how we know who we are and where we come from. Without tribalism we are no one from no where and will end up with nothing.

she is a thoroughly idiotic woman.the palestinians in israel will screw the state at the first opportunity. why do we insist on bringing in idiotic women without talent?

I only see good about tribalism,nothing wrong.

Yuli better watch her backside. She has no idea whom she is messing with. The notion that she will find a 'legal' way to shut down ultra Orthodox schools in the Jewish ! homeland is outrageous. Instead of funding them on par with the public shcools she declares war on them. She makes no such threats towards the Arab sector. Yuli will not last long, like the rest of the Kadima gang.

You are right! Send them to Palestine!!!