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Palestinians torch Qalqilya YMCA
Aaron Klein, WND
Published: 11.09.06, 03:44
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31. #18- the PA Anthem
One-of-them ,   Palestine   (09.11.06)
Correction: The Anthem goes: "I will live as a "Fidai", I will go on as "Fidai", I will expire as "Fidai" until I will be back" Translation: Fidai=someone who is willing to give up his soul for "something" he protects so dearly. In the Palestinian context, this "something" is his land. Of course, if you choose to translate "Fidai" to "guerrilla" and if this is all you can comprehend, then that's your business, but then, I think you wont be enjoying the Mil Gibson's movie (Patriot) and most likely you wont even understand it, unlike most Americans. One last word, if indeed it was Palestinians who set their FELLOW Palestinians' YMCA on fire, then they are SOOO wrong. However, I find it ironic how so many Israelis took it upon themselves to cry over this (hint: "Passion of the Christ" is another good Gibson's movie).
32. To #26 and all of Left Wing Europe
Jewish American ,   USA   (09.11.06)
Ok 26, im starting with you first. The reason why qalqilya is an "open air prison", is because of what the Palestineans do to Israel. Suicide bombings, rocket attacks, kidnappings. Israel has given them chance after chance after chance for peace, and what do they respond with, MORE ATTACKS!! It is obsurd for you to blame Israel anymore for thier situation. Israel offered thier beloved Arafat who embezzeled billions from them nearly everything the Palestineans wanted and he turned it down like the arrogant fool he was. Why don't the Palestineans travel to France and rip down his multi-million dollar villa that he bought with money given to the Palestineans. At this point, after every attempt Israel has made at peace, it's no one elses fault but thier own now. You say the YMCA was a symbol of Western Christianity which they hate, why do they not hate thier corrupt dictators who steal from thier own people and live well off while the Palestineans starve. THAT is who you should be pissed off at, not Israel. The Jewish ghettos yes were the epitome of evil and ignorance, but last time I checked they were not blowing themselves up in crowded market squares. Ok, now for left wing Europe who does not wish to confront the Islamo-Fascist problem. This will be you're world if you do not stand up to Iran, Syria, and the rest of those nuts now. Islamo-fascism has no heart for tolerance of other people, cultures, or religion and never will. Netanyaho said in a Fox interview last week that "Israel is just the stepping stone towards the West. If Israel falls, where will thier next logical attacks focus" and that answer is Europe. These nuts want an Islamic world full of fear, mono-culture, and Islam. Has Europe learned nothing of facism from Hitler? Appeasment only encourages, not deterrs. They must be stood up to, unfortunatly at this point, by force.
33. to Mike #25
One-of-them ,   Palestine   (09.11.06)
Hi Mike: I am glad that you are back from the US so you can clarify things for us. Of course, Mike, your wife feels the freedom living in "Israel", thanks to the citizenship of her husband. I bet she now carries the Israeli citizenship or in the process of. The picture is different for Palestinain Christrians. Since you are so resourceful, I wonder if you can tell me: has there been any instructions issued to IDF soldiers on the check points all over the West Bank to treat Palestinian Christians with any less humility than their Muslim countrymen? (other than when the cameras are watching, of coarse)?
34. 29- Might they be scared?
NL ,   Israel   (09.11.06)
Perhaps, but if talkbacker 27 is indicative on anything, might not the christians be afraid of not 'knowing their place'? Given the Palestinian terror organizations' penchant for shooting for display purposes anyone who is suspected of even tacitly supporting Israel or condemning the murderous tactics of the 'resistance', I'd probably take that party line publicly as well, were I a Christian living in PA territory.
35. Only to destroy
Harry ,   Sydney   (09.11.06)
There's nothing new under the sun. These guys enjoy destruction. Why build and create when much easier to destroy. God forbid if their efforts were directed to build a school or a hospital ar a nice suburb. What waste of time!
36. ISLAM: THE RELIGION OF PEACE
Aaron ,   ra'anana   (09.11.06)
as long as you are sunni also
37. #27 Christians do know their place!
James ,   Toledo Oho USA   (09.11.06)
Jesus is the Boss. And our place is where ever he wants us. We have no choice in His matters if we want to please Him. We will always tell you about Him because He commanded it. We have the Peace of God inside. Any of you Muslems can have Gods' peace too. You can burn down our buildings but still we extend our hand to you. You are invited to our table. No strings attached.
38. This is what happens when you are taught to hate from birth
First the Jews ,   Now the Christians   (09.11.06)
39. Qalqilya, Jerusalem, London, Amsterdam, Paris
Mahmoud ,   Jerusalem   (09.11.06)
All will be ours someday. Get used to it. Accept it. Islamic and Shariya will bring peace to all the infidel lands of Europe, Scandinavia, Asia and even the Hell on Earth--America.
40. Israel - Only Country In ME where Christian Pop. Is Rising
Rob ,   UK   (09.11.06)
Says it all really, Christians are discriminated against in every country in the ME outside of Israel. Which is why Israel is the only country in the Middle East where the Christian population is actually increasing. Any Christians that speak out in favour of Hamas or defame Israel are one of three things: 1) Under duress, they [understandly] fear for their lives. 2) They're on the payroll of the terrorist PA government. 3) They're just good old fashioned anti-semites.
41. Hm, are you sure that's the whole story?
Michael Steiner   (09.11.06)
Knowing Worldnetdaily, very likely not. If these Xians were engaged in proselityzing, then no wonder the locals took exception.
42. 33/28
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (09.11.06)
33 - my wife is israeli by birth, and proud of it (don't call her 'palestinian', unless you want trouble). and the palestinian christians are leaving the west bank because of the MUSLIMS, not because of israel. 28 - certain palestinian christians in the west bank love to tell westerners that their problems are because of israel (like the guys at a certain christian school). they have their schtick down so well they say it in their sleep. but when they have a choice on where to live, what do they choose? they support palestinians with their mouths, but their actions support israel. = talk is cheap!
43. 41 - your version of the story is irrelevant
NL ,   Israel   (09.11.06)
I grew up in Indiana. Christians tried to get me to convert all the time. Many denominations go door to door all around the world trying to get people to switch faiths. SO WHAT? You can be offended by their words all you want, this doesn't justify deliberate arson. Violent Muslims blame all of their actions on 'offenses' by others. Even assuming that you are correct and the Christians proselytized, that's their right. Perhaps it's offensive, but the so-called offense was TALKING, exercising free speech. They were not attacking physically, yet were physically attacked. In other words, are you suggesting that anything other than complete conformity to Muslim norms, including voicing a different opinion, constitutes an 'offense' and thus justifies a violent response? That is the logical progression based on the rhetoric of your talkback and it's ludicrous.
44. baruch hashem
(09.11.06)
we have a wall to protect us from these beaceloving beoble
45. Arab Christians
Mike ,   Atlanta, USA   (09.11.06)
Do they oppose Israel and fight against her?
46. Who needs a warning when
Fishing for Irony ,   Somewhere, New York   (09.12.06)
you can count on Muslim fanatics to torch, maim, murder, etc. if you refuse to submit to their idea of faith? Another sickening display of the psychosis afflicting extremist Muslims, where they burn down a Christian "Y" on charges of proselytizing, and then turn around and arrogantly state that their religion is the only legitimate belief system and all other religions are inferior and must convert. Too bad the irony of this attitude is lost on most extremist Muslims, because they are too either too blind or too stupid to recognize how ironic and contradictory their behavior is!
47. Don't the Christians have a hymn
(09.12.06)
that goes something like: "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition?" Isn't it time to fight back?
48. LOL! It's really so predictible!
(09.12.06)
Won't it be a hoot when the Muslims start their whining that you Christians have stolen all their land and Bethlehem, the birthplace of Jesus, is Muslim holy land? or did they already start their spiel, eh? Muslims blaming Christians for trying to convert people? Excuse me while I fall down laughing!
49. Palestinian Responses
Walter ,   U.S.A.   (09.12.06)
When a news article like this is presented, they minimize the contents and jump to something entirely different. It is an old tactic. If one is unwilling to discuss the matter at hand, jump to another one, even if there is no logical connection. Where was the Palestinian Authority in all this? Aiding and abetting this perhaps? Since the P.A. has control over such matters, why is Israel brought up? Could Hamas be an Israeli backed organization? lol
50. #26
Walter ,   U.S.A.   (09.12.06)
How shall we address this? A charitable organization tries to make the lives of the Palestinians easier, and they are attacked for the effort. This Christian organization is attacked for being Western. Does this not imply, even if not expressly stated that the "West" is the enemy generally? How does the Y.M.C.A. contribute to the Israeli occupation? It is rather like saying the Red Cross contributes to war through its activities. I see no reason why the people(actually Hamas, et al.)would be upset with such an organization. It is just Islamists attacking a soft target. For once, I would like to see something other than rage and violence. Is there anything else there, or is that the whole ball of wax for Palestinian society? If the Jews disappeared tomorrow, nothing would really change.
51. #39(No Thanks)
Walter ,   U.S.A.   (09.12.06)
No, I will not accept it. Seeing Amsterdam turned into Ramallah or Paris turned into Lahore is not a dream, but a nightmare.
52. comparison
Jay ,   USA   (09.12.06)
hmmm; to my knowledge, no mosque or "islamic center" in the US has EVER been attacked following fiery sermons against muslims in the local fundamentalist churches. Could there somehow be a difference?
53. why volunteer to aid Palestinians?
esther ,   raanana   (09.12.06)
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3293213,00.html
54. YEAH, YEAH... Im AWAKE!!!
ViK ,   USA   (09.12.06)
its sad to see this hate, violence and madness of our brother muslim...yap i still call them bro. even though im not a muslim, im a Catholic originaly from asia now live here in U.S. i think we need bucket of water poured over our head. See this wont end cycle of violence, we know that not all muslim are terrorist but most terrorist are muslim... my reaction to what happen is i pray for them that they are alive and have food to eat next day to see and live another day. U see thats how a Christian would respond, we dont behead my next door neighbor here...To our brother Jews there i know how u feel if they do that to u, oh actually they already have huh..yeah small world
55. christians
Randy Duncan ,   ATHENS GEORGIA USA   (09.12.06)
Christians need to know their place,good job learn to spell,preech is preach you are so intelligent ,I'm glad I know what side to be on.
56. #39
Randy Duncan ,   ATHENS GEORGIA USA   (09.12.06)
Dream on,one day we will have a leader unlike our last 3 who has some resolve and will not give in to political pressure from islamic leaders or the American media ,he will fight with the full measure of our elite military and you guys will not believe how much the Americans have held back for years.Believe it I'm a ex-military man I do know.We are usinga bout a tenth of our capabilities that ought to really make everyone think.
57. #39 Greed
brian ,   texas usa   (09.13.06)
"What doth it profit a man to gain the whole world and loose his own soul?"
58. So who torched it then asshat?
Purple Avenger ,   USA   (09.13.06)
There is no muslim prosecution of Christians in Palestine It must have been the jooos right?
59. #27 Israel's G-D the CREATOR is the BOSS - NOT MAN !
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.15.06)
Men want to be the bosses and have absolute power and control over every human being on earth. Israel - given by G-D to Jews for all eternity - is the cherished physical and spiritual Holy Land of every Jew on earth Israel is the cherished spiritual Holy Land of every Christian on earth.
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