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Benedict is right
Yisrael Rosen
Published: 17.09.06, 23:34
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31. You people are all bloody morons
Andy ,   Phoenix, USA   (09.18.06)
Even ignoring the rabid hatred being spewed from the two Palestinean histroy-rewriters here, you people are all missing the point. Radical Islam has declared WAR. A loooooong fricking time ago. Watch the documentary "Obsession" (Just out, free online) to get a small taste of what I'm talking about. This senseless violence in the name of G-d is not in response to any percieved wrong, such as defending the Kuwatis from Sadaam or the Jews DARING to demand a home for themselves and acquiring it peacefully and lawfully. (P.S. I know you think the Jews STOLE THE PALIS LAND, OMG, but you couldn't be more wrong. Do some reasearch and educate yourself.) All of this is beside the point. The point, as Pope Benedict put it, is that the roots of all of the terror we see around the world today, indeed most of the terror that we have seen since 1977 has all been Islamic in nature. They all derive their ideas from the Qu'ran, which is seen as perfect and unchangeable, and calls for the death or conversion of the entire world. Read the Qu'ran, all of it. It's right there in black and white. This cult of murderous Muhhamadeans must be stopped before war engulfs us all. Before we all become dhimmis in out own land.
32. Puzzled by the Jewish objections (5, 8) here.
sk ,   USA   (09.18.06)
I don't expect anything from the Pals, steeped in Nazi ideology as they are. (Have you noticed that Pals are completely unable to avoid Nazi-based stereotypes in their writing? Of course, Islam and National Socialism have much in common.) The Jewish objections are odd, though. Michael, the author did not say that the Vatican helped Jews during WW2. It certainly did not. How can he be more clear when he suggests that Christianity was a basis for Nazism? He is simply saying that Israel shouldn't reinforce the idea that Israeli "occupation" is responsible for Islamic fascism, but rather that Israel should side with the Pope's argument about the violence of Islam. Marty, do you think that Roosevelt had trust in Stalin? That did not prevent him from working with Stalin temporarily against Hitler. I am no friend of the Vatican, and there is no need to about Papa in glowing terms; surely, though, it would be helpful if Israel stopped blathering about the "occupation" and started talking about today's Nazis.
33. See this vid... it's obligatory!
Sam ,   Orange Co.   (09.18.06)
View it and share it: http://www.myspace.com/waragainstthewest
34. All Islam is Radical if you believe the Quran
Darren ,   Tampa, FL USA   (09.18.06)
All Islam is radical if you follow the Quran. Jews and Christians MUST unite to fight this tyranny of evil which raps itself in religion and politics. We either fight it or submit to it....and it will be a cold day in hell before this lawyer submits to a lie. The POPE is right and you don't often find this non-catholic Christian making such statements!
35. To #8 Marty
Darren ,   Tampa, FL USA   (09.18.06)
Dear Marty: I'm sorry for what many who come in the name of Christ have done to the Jewish people in the past. On behalf of the Messiah Jesus Christ, a jew whose apostles and disciples were all jews, who LOVES the Jews, I a gentile apologize for the evils committed against Jews by those who claim to act in HIS NAME. Not all who come in His Name or claim to act for Him are of Him for Jesus Christ stated that many will come to Him and say did we not perform miracles and do things on your behalf? And Christ will remark "Depart from me for I know you not!" Not all Catholics or Protestants are truly Christians just because they claim to be. Evil men (whether Popes, Priests, preachers, Deacons, Bishops, Elders), like Satan, can appear as angels of light; yet are just wolves in sheeps clothing.
36. So how do you plan to do it
A muslim ,   USA   (09.18.06)
would you invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to cristianity like Ann coulter suggests? Or would you prefer nuking them all? How can you fight an idea or reform a religion from outside? just enlighten us with your "wisdom"
37. #6
Christopher ,   Austin, Texas   (09.18.06)
To ABuBuBu: The first thing we need to do is straighten out the issues. First, Arabs are on Palestinain land, and they can't seem to live like civilized humans and so they need to leave. The Plaestinains have treated Arabs more than fair and all they get in return is violence and hatred. Second, Christians and Palestinians need to be allied against the murderous Arab Muslims who live for nothing but hate and worship of Allah (Satan). So ABuBuBu, get up and leave Palestine to its rightful owners, the Palestinains. Its their land and they have been there for over 5000 years, so shoooo!
38. Pope bows down to Islamic threats of Violence
Sarah Dalton ,   Seattle, USA   (09.18.06)
Muslims threatened/used violence to get the Pope to apologize for saying that Muslims threaten/use violence. Absolute Insanity. Never before in history has a Pope been blackmailed into doing anything (that we know of). Fear of Islam now truly rules the world. And the Pope bows down before them.
39. Welcome
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I'm a Christian, I'll join you! I believe you are God's chosen people. Bless you O' Israel!
40. I agree
USA   (09.18.06)
Side with the Christians who believe you are God's chosen people. Not the Catholics. There is belief that all Christains are the same, nothing could be further from the truth. I do not pray to Mary or any of the saints, nor do I believe Jews are Christ-killers. I'll stand with you, even die if need be.
41. That's good news!
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Christian's who hate Jews make me laugh, have you forgot where your faith comes from? or the title given to Christ on the cross (Mark 15 Vs. 26)? No you are not the new Israel, but gentiles, don't be jealous that God put his name on them. Paul says their eyes (Jews)have been vailed, so that you as a gentile may recieve salvation. This is through God's grace that we recieved this gift through faith (in Christ) and not our works. I encourage you to read (Luke 16 Vs. 11) The story of the Prodical Son which is Israel, the youngest son of a "certain man" (Abrahman) who had two sons (Esau & Jacob) Who was the youngest? Jacob! who wrestled with God? Jacob. (Genesis 32 Vs. 28) And he said, They name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men and hast pevailed. Now who is the youngest , Israel? The Prodical Son is Israel, and God is wait for Him to repent and return (Luke 16 Vs. 18&19): I (the youngest son says this) will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee, (19) And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of they servants. Then the Bible tells us that the Father ran to him from a great ways off. This story is about the return of the Jew to the Father. You (Esau-gentile-Christians) can be like the older brother who is angry that Israel recieved the best robe, a ring on his hand (birth right) and shoes on his feet. or join in (Luke 16 Vs 23): And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it: and let us eat, and be merry: (24) For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found, And they began to be merry. (a feast). Here's what God tells the eldest son (Christians) (Luke 16 Vs. 31): And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine. This story tells me Israel will repent and be restored with God and the Christians will be there and it'll be merry. Check it out. and don't be jealous of the younger brother, because all that God has is your too. You CANNOT hate the jews and be saved! the Older brother should repent for all the wrongs that has been commited in the name of Christainty toward the Jews. The line has been drawn, we should stick together.
42. Is that what you read?
RIB ,   USA   (09.18.06)
~The Vatican's statement said the Pope had never meant to offend Islam when he 'quoted a Byzantine emperor' on the prophet Mohammed's "evil". It said a careful reading of Benedict's lecture at the University of Regensburg on Tuesday would show that "what really matters to the Holy Father is a clear and radical rejection of religious motives for violence". ~Further stating that the Pope does not, personally, 'share that view.' So, what's your claim to some prophetic insight? You write: "We'll be paying the price for denying the Pope's declaration." First, learn to read, then write!
43. Correction:
D- ,   San Diego, USA   (09.18.06)
We are being SLAUGHTERED in a one-sided religious war. And worse yet, on the whole, our leaders will not acknowledge it and fight it in the least. After tens of thousands killed in thousands of attacks since 9-11 the status quo still says, "No religious war to see here. Move along, folks." It may be the left is what is holding us back, but more likely it is just too inconvenient for the status quo to fight a religious war. So random people continue to be plucked out of the teeming global populace for Muslim human sacrifice rituals. And no one, anywhere, cares.
44. No more religious alliances to kill
DE Teodoru ,   NY USA   (09.18.06)
Get this streight, Mr. Rosen: when talking about Roman Catholics you are talking about people guided by a devine relationship with a God that sees all his creations as only his to judge. Our "chosen people" era is behind us; it ended when we realized what murderers men become when they claim exclusive access to God. So make peace with the Arabs, they are family; you're all Abe's kids!
45. POPE'S WORDS ARE PROPHETIC.
Knave Dave   (09.18.06)
The pope spoke an ancient text that proved to be the key to unlocking the truth about Islam. His words fulfilled themselves on the same day they were spoken. If Islam is a religion that makes people more peaceful, then why is it that Muslims around the world fear a WORLD WAR may be unleased by the pope's 32 words? If an imam spoke harshly against Christianity or Judaism (as if both don't happen daily!) would Christians and Jews the world over be trembling that their cohorts may now launch a world war? The pope spoke ancient words that enable the modern world to see the long-hidden truth about Islam ... if the world does not choose blindness. The pope, whether he intended to or not, launched a war of words; but thousands of Muslims are turning it into a war of swords. Which religion is the religion of peace? The one that keeps its disputes to words only? Or the one that threatens to blow up "EVERY CHURCH IN GAZA," whether Catholic or not, in response to the words of the Catholic leader? If Islam is a religion that makes people more peaceful, why are so many MUSLIMS fearing that a new world war may have just begun over 32 words? And why have so many Muslims long feared to speak against their Fundamentalist counterparts. No Christian fears speaking against Christian Fundamentalists. Take, for example, the difference in my own response to an attack on my religion. This rabbi asserts that the Christian RELIGION (not just Christian people) are responsible for one of the greatest evils in history: "Despite all the calamities we have suffered at the hands of the Christian world during the years of our long exile, including Nazi anti-Semitism, which is a result of the Christian religion...." Do I threaten to bomb ALL synagogues because of this one Jewish leader's attack against my religion? Do I even threaten to bomb only his synagogue? Do I even threaten to attack only the man who said it? Of course not! The idea of attacking anyone because they hate my beliefs is anathema to me! It's an idea I cannot even stomach. But attack the "religion of peace" with mere words, and all hell threatens to break lose so that even its moderate followers beg the pope to apologize in order to avoid WORLD WAR! Think about it!
46. #1 GOOD NEWS
Knave Dave   (09.18.06)
"Leave muslims alone, they leave you alone." Is that what they were doing in Gaza when the shot at, burned and fire-bombed several churches that weren't even Catholic? Only in a Muslim's twisted world of lies can that be construed as leaving someone alone. And these were churches attended by PALESTINIANS! Muslim Palestinians attacking Christian Palestinians who have nothing to do with the pope! "Do not accuse Islam of atrocities, becuase if Islam as like you say, make nomistake that there would have been no Sepluchre Church, no Nativity church.... Remeber that once and after all, muslims protected these churches for 13 centuries! But this is simply not our style." Will there be a Sepulchre Church when they are done with their present rampage? I may be "knave," but I'm not naive. If that is not your style, then why are THOUSANDS of you now firebombing churches that are not even Catholic? It appears any excuse will do in order for you to do against these Christian churches what you have long had in your hearts to do. Your actions reveal your hearts. It was, after all, NOT a Greek Orthodox patriarch who spoke against Islam, so why are you burning Greek Orthodox churches if that is "not your style"??? Who are you protecting those churches from now? Yourselves? No one else wants to blow them up. Ask those churches if they are afraid Jews will blow them up for past atrocities? Do Muslims care about truth at all when they speak? Think about it! Which is the religion of peace, the one that battles with wordS or the one that can hardly be stopped from battling with Swords? If Islam is the religion of peace, why is it that violent attacks all around the world are made in the name of Islam? When George Bush attacks Al Qaeda, he doesn't do it in the name of Christianity. He does it in the name of 9/11. If Islam is the religion of peace, why don't Christians threaten to blow up mosques every time some imam attacks Christianity? The religion of peace threatens to do this when a single Christian speaks against Islam. Why is it that MUSLIMS all around the world today fear their own cohorts will get into a world war over the pope's mere words if the pope doesn't apologize? The good news is that Jesus taught non-violence and Jesus NEVER taught anything remotely like jihad. That's the GOOD news. Islam, every day, is looking more an more like the bad news ... and it's doing it all on its own. IF ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE, WHY IS THAT PEOPLE THE WORLD OVER FEAR TO SPEAK HARSHLY ABOUT IT? I never feel fear over speaking against Fundamentalist Christians. Think about it.
47. THIS RABBI HAS ONE VERY SICK MIND!
Knave Dave   (09.18.06)
He says that Christianity created Adolph Hitler. Why is it that Jews cannot stomach anti-Semiticism and would immediately use that word against me if I said that Judaism was responsible for the holocaust, but some seem to have NO PROBLEM stomaching anti-Christ statements? What kind of mental duplicity creates the brain division that's required to hate one kind of comment while making the same kind of comment about someone else? Frankly, I deplor the author's comment in exactly the same way I would hate to hear someone say and mean that Judaism is responsible for the holocaust. One hardly wants to even write such reprobate words AS AN EXAMPLE. But that is the kind of comment Rosen has made. How many Jews deplore Jews who become Christians -- even to the point of treating them as if they were dead? (I've neve seen a Christian deplore a Christian who became a Jew.) What's wrong with Rosen who accuses Christianity as being the fount of Naziism and in the same breath asks Christians to help Jews fight Muslims? Only an idiot would think such an appeal would be appealing to anyone. But his animosity toward Christians is so great he cannot stop himself, even when he wants to enlist their help. He is as much as saying, you Christians exist only to be used for our need in the present hour. Later, we will go right back to heaping upon you all the evils of the world. But let us now join in this common cause. Rosen wants only to use Christians then drop them on their heads when he's done with them. All the Christians I personally know do not hate or want to fight either Jews or Muslims, though many will do what they must to defend themselves from Muslim attacks. I have lived in the U.S. fifty years and have never met a Christian (I'm saying a Christian, NOT a U.S. citizen) who wants the U.S. to control Muslim lands or who has any desire to spread the faith by the sword -- not even among Fundamentalist Christians. EVERY Christian I personally know is willing to let Jews be Jews and Muslims Muslims and use ONLY persuasion to try to convert them. The Christians I know would die for a Jew's right to be a Jew and Muslim's right to be a Muslim. THEY WOULD ALSO DIE FOR A CHRISTIAN'S RIGHT TO BE A CHRISTIAN, unforced by Muslims in any way. The Christians I personally know fought in WWII to end Hitler, and every one of them HATES what Hitler did to Jews and hated it from the moment they first heard about it. They fought Hitler, even though he never launched any significant attack on the U.S. because they recognized evil when they saw it. I find Rosen's comments as deplorable as Muslim's find the pope's; but I'm not going to attack any synagogues because of his words. Regardless of anything that has happened in history, Jesus taught his followers to use only peaceful means of persuasion. It was Jesus who said, "Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword."
48. (#) yes Fool writer, hey read this....
John   (09.18.06)
that writer is really silly We as Christians are more near to Muslims, bible say so also, and if pope said that (for political reasons driven by jews) so he is 100% wrong. i am Chrstians and say he made big fault, and Muslims are not as our media say "jew controlled media" and also i say Islam is really = peace, but what jew wants from world is one thing, to let Muslims and christians fight each others, the only winner is JEWS why you want us to fight beside you? that proove that you are TOO WEAK and need help, HEY we dont fight for any body, and we dont fight muslims, they protected our churches for more than 1300 years, better than you, at least in past we could go to palastine safely, now after u occupied it, ITS NOT SAFE FOR ANY BODY. hey Muslims are peacfull people despite our FAKE media show, + Leave muslims, they love you + Attack muslims in thier lands, they defeat you and history shows that go and educate ur self before writing such words.
49. We must FIGHT for our Democracy and Freedom
Nannette ,   London, UK   (09.18.06)
Islam is threatening our freedom, our democracy - and has already infringed our freedom of speech. The Muslim insults to the Pope have stirred anger amongst the Christians, who now see Muslims in a different light... Imagine if Christians stood outside a mosque, and held placards like the photos, saying similar things about Mohammed??? http://catholiclondoner.blogspot.com/2006/09/very-rushed-post.html http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6193/3077/320/DSCF0026.jpg http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6193/3077/320/DSCF0031.jpg
50. FIRST COMMON SENSE ARTICLE ON YNETNEWS IN AGES
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51. Palestinianism is a POITICAL MOVEMENT & nothing more
Adam ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.18.06)
Everywhere there are Muslims and non muslims there is large scale conflict and violence and also in places with only Muslims. Israel, Lebanon, Saudi (Shiite-Sunni), Sudan, Russia (Chechniya), Philipines, the former Yugoslavia, Central Asia eg. Uzbekistan in 1990 was 60% Muslimand is now 90% due to large scae exodos,France, Cyprus, India-Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt, , Georgia and MORE!!!
52. #8
david ,   jerusalem   (09.18.06)
yes, rosen is a fool, as he says of himself, "a little one". Small minded and short sighted in all the issues. We jews would do best to keep our mouths shut and make our pact with H'. shanah tovah to all.
53. Who killed 6 million Jews ?
Mustafa ,   Istanbul   (09.18.06)
Who made world wars 2 times in the last century only ? Muslims or Chrsitians? Who organized crusades, were not they Muslims ? Who invaded Palestane, based on a 4 thosand years old myth? Who invaded Iraq, Vietnam, invented Atom bomb and used it to kill 200 hundred thousand Japans, Who terminated the indians of America ? Slaved the blacks of Africa, ivaded and exploited whole African Continent. Theye were indeed Muslims, not Christians or Jews. Yesss! Benedict was soooo right, as much as you are so full of hatred and provocation. A fully atheist Turkish citizen
54. but itll never happen cause the media loves muslimsterorists
Islam, RoP ,   believe it or else!!   (09.18.06)
55. 3000 years of history say a lot
Israeli   (09.18.06)
We will win in the end. That's how it has always been.
56. reply
rich ,   lebanon   (09.18.06)
That's why the christian community and their allies , are asking, why israel is not supporting them to have souverraign peacefull country in lebanon , it started in lebanon , and it shall be finished in lebanon as well
57. Islam protected the Jews, Catholics killed 6 million Jews
Moslem ,   Jordan   (09.18.06)
The writer Ysrael Rosen is mad, he forgot that the Jews lived their best times in the ancient Moslem Impire ( read history ) , while 6 SIX million Jews killed in Europe by the christians ( can you deni that ? ) , Islam did not spread by sword, read about war rules in Isalm, Moslem army never killed children or aged people or women like IDF or US army in Iraq , please be Fair ....
58. 15 - No true Christian abandons Israel
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59. 20
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (09.18.06)
you say: "XTIANS ARE THE ENEMY NO DIFFERENT THAN ARABS" so i guess the christian arabs are the biggest enemy of jews, doubly so. moron.
60. #55 Amen! Faith in God's Word wins!
Non-Jewish ,   USA   (09.18.06)
apply it.
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