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Haniyeh: We won’t recognize Israel
Ali Waked
Published: 20.09.06, 16:49
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31. #12 - latest polls in US and Europe show big drop in support
michael ,   tel aviv & london   (09.20.06)
for the Palestinians and an increase in support for Israel. Europeans are now more and more concerned about the Islamic fantics in their midst and are beginning to understand what Israel has to deal with. Which newspaper do you read 'The Wishful Thinking Times' ?
32. What does Haniyeh mean by the word "occupation"?
Shlomzion ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.20.06)
Mr. Htkoff, you may either be uninformed or naive, but do note, "occupation" means one thing for the English/French/German etc. reader. It mean something else to the Arab reader. "Occupation" means any land controlled by the state of Israel. You may think of that part of the disputed land occupied by Israel since 1967. An Arab means the entire land between the Jordan river to the sea, including of course the state of Israel.
33. Create 5th country with an ethnic Syrian majority?
Adam ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.20.06)
34. Haniyeh being very gracious
Steve G ,   Kew Gardens, NYC   (09.20.06)
Haniyeh is being very gracious to avoid the Europeans the embarrassment of falling all over themselves to recognize a sham 'unity government'. . . . . .which does not mean the Europeans will not try to do it anyway.
35. Sick and Tired
Dave Levi ,   Burbank. USA   (09.20.06)
Frankly, I am sick and tired of all of this Hamas rubbish. Who cares what they do..Israel has existed as a country long before the so-called Palestinians ever decided to move them from Syria, Egypt and Turkey. This is all nonsense. But Israel is also at fault for not annexing the territories after the 67 war, all of them AND enforcing Israeli law. Arabs who didn't comply, should have been relocated to Syria, Lebanon, etc. Let Hamas think what they want. However, there will NEVER BE A PALESTINIAN state, if I have my way. Terrorists should get capital punishment (a 12.00 noose), and no more "deals". Give Hamas 24 hrs to release Shalit..then move in with 1,000 tanks..that's what they understand..and lots of cluster bombs. Hang em high, the Hamas leaders, for murder, treason and crimes against the state (Israel).
36. Fuck You!
Tom ,   bsas, ARGENTINA   (09.20.06)
A BIG FUCK YOU TO ALL YOU BRAINWASHED BASTARDS! FUCKING TERRORIST! WE WONT RECOGNISE ISRAEL... FUCK YOU! IT´S BEEN DECADES SINCE YOU LIVE IN THAT SHITHOLE, ISRAEL BUILT A COUNTRY OUT OF THE DESERT! AND YOU ARE STILL COMPLAINING.. OCCUPATION BLA BLA, ISRAEL LEFT IN 2005 AND YOU DID PROMOTE LOVE, PEACE, TEACH CHILDREN TO LIVE IN PEACE, HARMONY WITH ISRAEL???? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU KEEP ON HATRED, ANTISEMITISM AND THE SAME RETHORIC BULLSHIT! YOU MUST LEARN THAT ISRAEL IS THERE FOR GOOD! FOREVER! DEAL WITH IT! RECOGNISE ISRAEL, STOP TERROR GROUPS, STOP TEACHING HATRED, STOP LOOKING TO IRAN, AND HAVE A LASTING PEACE WITH ISRAEL AND YOU´LL HAVE YOUR ¨ WANTED¨ COUNTRY. WHEN DID YOU OR THE ARAB WORLD CARE FOR YOU PALS, WHEN THE EGPYPTIANS OCCUPIED GAZA, WHEN THE JORDANS OCCUPIED WEST BANK??? 1948-1967?????? noooooooooooooNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU ONLY BULLSHIT PEOPLE AND ¨ CARE¨ ONLY BECAUSE OF THE OCCUPATION OF ISRAEL. FUCKING HYPOCRITES.! DAMN YOU! WHERE THE HELL ARE ALL THE MONEY FROM THE ALLTIME TERRORIST ARAFAT? HUH??????? MILLIONS IN SWISS BANKS! DO YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT??? LONG LIVE ISRAEL.
37. #7 #10 Pals
Ryan ,   Calgary, Canada   (09.20.06)
Starve the people seems a little harsh but remember these are the same people that elected Hamas, and Hamas's platform wasn't a secret they knew what they were getting into. If Hamas won't recongnize Israel then so be it. They sound like a greedy kid that won't share. Government is responsible for it's peoples welfare and security. Hamas appears to be failing in that department. To me they are being just stubborn. As for starving neighbours, Sudan is pretty close, obviously not as close, but still in the neighbourhood, if the Palestinians are unwilling to compromise, and keep the my way or the highway attitude, who really cares then. It's compromise that stops turmoil, give and take, not just take, Israel has already made concessions and provides financial aid, as well as other countries providing financial aid, I think that it's time the PALS said thanks and did some giving on there part, and elected a government that has there welfare and survival at the forefront, not stubborness. If they are unwilling to bend, I wouldn't send them no aid or food, I would send it somewhere where it is appreciated.
38. 2, huge difference
(09.20.06)
Israel is a legitimate state that was established according to a UN resolution, is a soverign and democratic state and is not being recognized by the Palestinians. There is NO Israeli occupation. The Palestinians want recognition but do not offer recognition of Israel. They were offered statehood but refused it and instead have chosen to continue their path of destruction and death. They are to blame for their situation.
39. hamas
ami ,   israel   (09.20.06)
let them get choked in their mud and dirt without getting sorry for them
40. Voice of freedom
Ali ,   Palestine - Ramallah   (09.20.06)
Guys, The Palestinian people is like any other people under the sun. We love life and we indeed peacful people. Those who ever been to Palestine know these facts very well. I have many comments: 1) Hanneyeh and Hamas does not reflect the true Palestinian voice. I see a significant progress in the Hamas discourse in terms of recognizing the State of Israel. Their argument is like this: What is the price for that? 2) Why do we ignore the roots of the conflict? the main reasons for all what is happening their is the Israeli occupation for the Palestinain land. 3) Solution is possible: the 1967 occupied Palestine and East Jerusalem and just solution for the refeguees problem. Without such a solution, everybody will suffer in this land. 4) Does Israel want peace, anyway???
41. #29, Recognition is meaningless
(09.20.06)
42. The Truth is the Truth
Doug ,   Boca Raton, FL   (09.20.06)
Morris ... you are worried about a direct quote from Mr. Haniyeh ... when has he ever said that "he does recognize that Israel exists with or without his permission" ... he educates his children in EU funded schools that Israel is not even on the map ... and the difference is the Mr. Haniyeh wants Jews to turnover Tel Aviv, Haifa and every other city ... and then leave or live as a persecuted minority ... much different than the Israeli-Arabs who want to have no part of the Palestinians ... they live better in Jewish Israel and the prove that by the fact that they do not choose to leave. So, Mr. Haniyeh can continue to starve his people because he is more concerned with killing Israelis than bettering the lives of Palestinians.
43. #29 read #9
Charles ,   Gray Summit, USA   (09.20.06)
Without recognition of Israel's right to exist, then there can be no peace between Israel and the Palestinians. Without peace between the two peoples there will always be war, and with war there is always world unrest. Clear enough?
44. 35
(09.20.06)
YOU ARE SO RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, NEGOCIATIONS WITH THESE PEOPLE ACCOMPLISH NOTHING AS THEY ARE ONLY LOOKING TO KILL ISRAELIS AND TAKE AWAY THEIR LAND. THEY WANT NO COMPROMISE AS WAS SHOWN WHEN THEIR ARAFAT(WHO STOLE THEM BLIND) REFUSED A FAIR OFFER THAT WOULD HAVE GRANTED THEM A STATE. THEY HAVE SHOWN, OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THEY CHOSE THE PATH OF THE SWORD. THEY TEACH THEIR CHILDREN TO HATE FROM AN EARLY AGE AND THEY FILL THEIR HEADS WITH DECEITFUL AND HATEFUL PROPAGANDA. THEY GLORIFY DEATH AND THEY GLORIFY AND PRAISE MURDERERS AND TERRORISTS. THEY VOTED FOR A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION TO GOVERN THEM AND ARE NOW SEEING THAT SAME GOVERNMENT IS NOT PROVIDING THEM WITH WHAT THEY WERE PROMISSED. MILLIONS RECEIVED FOR THE PEOPLE FROM ISRAEL AND OTHER COUNTRIES AND ORGANIZATIONS WERE BEING USED TO BUY WEAPONS INSTEAD OF FOR FOOD,EDUCATION AND SHELTER. THIS IS WHO THEY VOTED FOR AND NOW THEY WHINE AND CRY.
45. 14
(09.20.06)
I second you. It's a losing battle. Israel should further its development. It's a waste of time dealing with entities who want to destroy Israel.
46. The future? and #12 response
Josh   (09.20.06)
The cat and mouse charrade that is being used to present the world with a bad guy is only a trend. When the military money making machine supported by greedy Arabs and World powers is over they will allow Palestinians to truly be overrun. Who cares if a small nation with no natural resources, no GNP and nothing to give to the world doesn't reccognize a thriving center of technology and homeland to the nation of Israel. The world has given this patch of unliked people a microphone and this has allowed them to appear grander than they are. There is no future when the microphones and cameras die out and are packed away. The world intentionally did not let Israel finish the war that it was winning at a slower rate than they hoped. Its all like above.
47. #40
Ryan ,   Calgary, Canada   (09.20.06)
1) If they don't reflect the true palestinian voice how did they get elected? 2)Israel was granted a sovereign country on that land where they have been for thousands of years, you sound jealous, your beef should be with the UN, not the Israelis, sounds like your saying, they got a country and we didn't boo hoo. Treading in the past will never help you build towards the future, that is the root cause, you can't change what has already happened, you can only move forward. It is not an occupation if it is there sovereign country, take your matter to the UN and leave Israel alone. 3) Considering what you as a people have accomplished I don't think that giving you any of Jerusalem is a good idea, you'd turn it into one large bomb factory, and that city is best preserved under Israeli rule and law. 4)Yes but that is hard when your elected government doesn't recognize them so they won't talk about it, as well as you considering a UN action as an occupation. As well as the fact that all you arab countries have been atttacking them since the UN action. When you should be taking your case to the UN, your quick to adopt there resolutions favouring you, but even quicker to take action against Israel when it favours them, You know you got to give and take to get ahead, you got to stop living in the past, and live in the present and for the future. You all breathe the same air, eat the same food, drink water, bleed, laugh, have families that you care about, shouldn't that be enough to provide harmony between two people. We should be building spaceships and stations instead of weapons, as far as I am concerned we are all Earthlings but your kind is the weak link in the chain, holding us all back. Visit Canada someday and see how people of different religions, culture, ethnicity or race live together in relative harmony, the most disruption to that is from emotions caused by events over there. It's like a school trip you know, join the group so your not left behind.
48. NO PROBLEM. RECOGNIZE THE ARABS DON'T RECOGNIZE YOU! HA!
(09.20.06)
HAMAS SCUM! GO LEARN HOW TO READ!
49. This is funny coming from a non-existant people.
Palestiniansareamyth ,   USA   (09.20.06)
Israel is the homeland of the Jews because of the historical evidence. The phony "Palestinians" on the other hand have never existed as a people, country, culture, language. Israel should never recognize a "People" who are a myth created by the Plo.
50. No. 40, "The main reason for all what is happening...
Shlomzion ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.20.06)
... their is the Israeli occupation for the Palestinian land." And were is that occupied land, Aii? Are they the disputed territories captured by Israel during the Six-Day War or are they also territories on the western side of the Green Line? Is a just solution for the refugees their settlement within a Palestinian Arab state, or should they also enter the Jewish state of Israel and flood it with non Jews? And as for the real root cause - you know, the conflict has been here since way before 1967 - will the Palestinian Arab people and its leadership finally recognize our right, the right of the Jewish people both within and without Israel to a national home within its historic homeland, that is Eretz Israel? I look forward to read your response. Shlomzion, Jerusalem
51. Following the teachings of a carpet salesman
Hot ,   Headed   (09.20.06)
This is why their religion is backasswords and they can't take anything and use it for good. They want to kill Jews because Mo's teachings are wrong if JEWS ARE STILL BREATHING AIR. They want to re-write history. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! You should have agreed with Clinton, that was the best deal you were ever going to get. Now you Palis have noted terrorist organization Hamas as your government. Did you really think you would fool the world? FU and drop dead, all you ignorant Brainwashed Pali F-cks.
52. decendents of esau....as if they never were
kevin ,   usa   (09.20.06)
according to bible prophecy the pals fate is complete and utter destruction...they are the ones wiped off the map
53. Another good reason to destroy them.
jason white ,   afula,israel   (09.20.06)
54. 5 What is so insane is that many of the arabic countries
freedom ,   canada   (09.20.06)
that surround modern day Israel have vast tracts of empty land. Surely one of these countries could set aside some land for these people. Fighting could have been avoided for many years as in reality , Israel is such a small country. That makes sense. I know if I was a palestinian I would want out of the insanity that has gripped them for many years.
55. Both of your premises are wrong.
freedom ,   canada   (09.20.06)
Number one. You as a palestinian voted for the garbage Hamas. LIve with your vote, the price of democracy. Number two. No what you call occupied is not correct, as you have not read historical perspectives on other so called defensive wars throughout the world. The west bank is by legal right Israels as is the golan heights, gaza and even the Sinai. You can dispute what I say but I will refute that will facts. The ownership is Israeli. But they also have the right to do what they will with these areas. They were willing to give up the Sinai. And that is there right, they could have kept the sinai.
56. # 40 You cannot reason with the Fakastinians
Jacob ,   DC   (09.20.06)
They have no argument, that is why they turn to violence, which is also part of their religious indoctrination. Convert or die, once again no argument. Like a little kid with an AK-47 saying daddy get me a candy bar. I said I want a candy bar. Pali's don't want to work for a Nation, they want to conquer a different one, thaqt is the point that you must understand. This is done thru years of "Palistinian Text Books". Jews are the sons of Apes and Pigs etc...etc... Three year olds are capable of answering this if you ask them. These people do not want freedoms, they want to take the Freedoms of Jews away, along with the rest of the world. Wake up. smell the cofee, it's brewing this moment.
57. To 40
Tom ,   bsas, Argentina   (09.21.06)
I Believe the Pals should have their state along side Israel. You know Ali, that not 1967,but since 1948 ONE DAY AFTER ISRAEL DECLARE ITS INDEPENDENCE, ARAB COUNTRIES ATTACK HER. You lost in 1948-1956-1967-1973-1982-1990-2003-2006. If you people can´t have an education of love, peace, harmony, not doing the nazi rethoric of ¨pigs n apes¨ not reading MEin Kampff from Hitler in arabic, not telling young children to hate, death and destruction, you could have live in peace and harmony and economic wealth if you live in peace with Israel. But no, you have chosen over the decades to Terrorism, Death, Destruction, Kill all jJews, wipe out Israel from the face of the earth, teaching people martyrdom, TO KILL A PERSON GRANTS YOU A PLACE IN HEAVEN??? I REPEAT: KILL = ENTER TO HEAVEN? IS THAT WHAT ISLAM TEACH? HUH? You are brainwash or maybe you all are psychopaths who love death. Israel out of the desert build a COUNTRY! You did not. Don´t give me the occupation crap. Billions come to Palestine just for ONE END: TO KILL JEWS. YOU´RE FUCKING LEADER HAssan NaSSrallah said when they fired rockets and hit ARAB ISRAELIS!!! : ups! sorry, they are MARTYRS! FUCKING FUNNY! You are a joke. Did you or someone from the arab countries cared for you when the Egyptians occupied Gaza, and Jordan occupied West Bank? noooo ONLY AFTER the 6 day war when the israeli occupation began, you suddenly ¨ CARED¨. a Joke again. YOU MUST KNOW THAT ISRAEL IS THERE FOR GOOD, FOREVER N EVER! YOU CAN´T DESTROY IT, BUT I´M SURE YOU ALL WANT IRAN TO NUKE ISRAEL RIGHT? WONDER WHAT THE BLAST ONLY WILL GET TO JEWS AND CHRISTIANS? WHAT ABOUT ARAB ISRAELIS, AND IM SURE IT WILL GET TO GAZA AND WEST BANK.... SURE THE FUCKING IRANIANS WOULD SAY: UPS... SORRY, THEY ARE MARTYRS! FUCK YOU! YOU HATE ISRAEL AND JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY, YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO MANKIND. ALL RELIGIONS COME FROM JUDAISM, MAYBE YOU CAN´T GET OVER THAT IDEA HUH? FUCK YOU. LONG LIVE ISRAEL,long live IDF, AND MOSSAD
58. 40 ali
freedom ,   canada   (09.21.06)
1. That is a lie, the palestinian people voted for an anti semetic political party. So forget that. 2. The Israeli occupation is a delusion that has been around for many years. You need to read history textbooks from many sources to see what happens when the party that is attacked controls land in the aftermath of a war. 3. Again refer to 2, you can not change history. 4. It takes two for peace. Why did the palestinian people vote for a group to represent them who basis for existence is terrorism upon Israel. Last step. Im not jewish.. just an outsider..Have a nice day.
59.  Islamist agitation and manoeuvers
Hiram ,   Tel Aviv   (09.21.06)
Hanniyeh , Teheran's puppet, sings and dance at his master's voice. Accepting the creation of a " unity government "( is there any such thing as Arab Unity ? we know the answer !!!) would deprive the entire Islamist community of a good reason to continue global terror. Indeed, if the Palestino-palestinian conflict stops, there is no more " real reason" to continue with terror short of making it officially a global war against non-moslems ! Palestine has been the major excuse for terror...If there is peace with Israel , the reason for Islamist agitation will stop and gangster countries will have to turn their attention to their "internal"problems...which could be dangerous for their own survival !
60. Shoshana, you're right. But Bush is not fooled...
(09.21.06)
Oh, what's this? http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1208 http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1535817,00.html LOL - we say "these arabs don't have brains" deceit is abysmally stupid
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