Opinion  Ron Ben-Yishai
Wake up call for us too
Ron Ben-Yishay
Published: 09.10.06, 20:01
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1. Develop strong conventional deterrence and harsh economic sa
James   (10.09.06)
Israel needs to develop strong conventional force and international deterrence and anti ballistic missile technology. Additionally it should impose harsh economic and political sanctions against the government and leaders of reactionary regimes and isolate leaders from international interfaces. This should be accompanied by external political pressure to push forward free and democratic internal forces . Military or reactionary adventurism by rogue states or extreme hgroups should be responded to vigorously at all times.
2. It's all about NATO
Concerned Israeli   (10.09.06)
The alliance of democratically based allied countries with similar views and values already exists: NATO. Therefore, we don't even have to start from scratch, just reform and bolster what already exists. A strong NATO could actually surpass the UN in power and influence (that's not hard to do). This is the only way to restore global security. Go NATO!
3. Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West
(10.09.06)
Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-692071627799119020
4. New strategy?
Mo   (10.09.06)
STAY THE COURSE, STAY THE COURSE, STAY THE COURSE. THAT'S THE ISRAELI-AMERICAN WAY!
5. I love hezbullah and iran;
lina   (10.09.06)
I love them first because they are shiite one;then I love them because they won from israel ;and they will won more times(inshallah);
6. Pure garbage.
sk ,   USA   (10.09.06)
This pundit recommends essentially that Israel do as little on Iran following the North Korea test as it did before. All the blather about "sanctions," "cooperation," and the rest, means precisely nothing. There is only one way basic way to stop Iran from getting the bomb, and that is to kill its leadership and destroy its military facilities. There will be instant regime change when what remains of the current leadership is completely humiliated.
7. #5
eugene ,   israel   (10.10.06)
what did they "won" exactly ?
8. This article is a Joke!
(10.10.06)
You can never stop anybody, just like you couldn't stop India, Pakistan, and Others. Israel and the West want domination. You'll never get them. Your sons will keep getting killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, and else until you leave people live their lives freely, without your sickly intervention!
9. 5 And I dont love it because you are now part of the
freedom ,   canada   (10.10.06)
fascist problem in the middle east. The one that is so religiously intolerant of any other religion in the middle east. The one that cannot get along with the jews.
10. to no-name (8)
sk ,   USA   (10.10.06)
No-name sez: "You can never stop anybody, just like you couldn't stop India, Pakistan, and Others. Israel and the West want domination. You'll never get them. Your sons will keep getting killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, and else until you leave people live their lives freely, without your sickly intervention!" Let me guess ... you're a Muslim? You are incorrect: countries can be stopped from going nuclear if they expect to be destroyed if they go nuclear. This is why Libya wisely cancelled its nuclear plans (although since Bush has become just like Clinton, we can expect Libya to resurrect its program). It is deeply unfortunate that the US couldn't have patched up relations with India well enough to have worked with it in destoying Pakistan's nuclear ambitions before they were close to fruition. India was a problem early on, but democracies have never been the big nuclear-related problem. Interestingly, if the US had taken on the USSR immediately after WW2, and before it stole our nuclear technology, the entire Cold War could have been avoided. BTW, no-name, the only reason the US is in Iraq and Afghanistan is because of a theory that Muslims can be made democratic. If that theory turns out to be unworkable (and even Turkey is regressing to Islamism), the US can destroy these piddly countries without a single troop on the ground. You think the US wouldn't do it, if this were the only way? OK then, I recommend you email a couple towns in Japan for an update.
11. for 7# I will tell u why I say that hezbollah win
lina ,   brasil   (10.10.06)
ok ;if u israel win the war ;but before answer me some questions?and let's be sincere ok;israel didn't realise anything of her objective;and I think that u are an intelligent people to know that we can't win the war by counting who destroy more houses or who kill more children;the one who wins the war ;is the one who realise his objective;olmert have declared since the first day that the war objective is to eliminate hezbollah ;and getting back the 2 soldiers;u know that he didn't realise anything of that;then the objective became to be hitting the missile capabilities of the party;and we know that the missiles were falling on israel to the last moment;then the objective became to be the establishing of a weapon free-zone(the south of the litani)and please don't tell me that there are no hezbollah in the south of litani(let's be sincere)I feel sorry for those israeli officials who are lying to their people saying that they expelled hezbollah from the south of litani;we know that all the fighter of hezbollahand their families live in that villages;because they are the sons of these lands;;and they tried to kill nassrallah and they failed too; and the big victory that olmert declared that he is walking in the north and nassrallah in the shelter;but we all see that he get out of the shelter ;after israel sweared that she will killed him; ok we know that you realise one thing;about the unifil and the soldiers of lebanon;I have lived in lebanon for 16 years;and I know that the most soldiers of libanon are shiites;and I know that they are like brothers;even the christian like hezbollah;and u know that the unifil don't have the courage to fight with hezbollah;the unifil will not make a war for israel;and about the armies we know that syria are giving every day armies to hezbollah;(there are no unifil there) let's talk about the objective of hezbollah;the objective are to getting back the lebanese soldiers;and we know that they will get back them (if u want to see the 2 soldiers again) and the other objective was that when isael enter to lebanon will pay a big price.(118 soldiers and 100 mirkavas and many other things like helicopter); and don't tell me that israel kill 600;because all this fighters have families;and hezbollah cannot hide their dead sons;~ hezbollah won thousands of muslims hearts in the world;and non-muslims in lebanon;(80%of the people in lebanon love hezbollah) and u israel what did u won?????????I will tell u;you won more people hates u ;because of the 600 children that u killed ; and don't tell me that hezbollah shoot missiles on israel to kill people; just ask a children who is the terrorist here ;the one who kill 1200 all of them children and woman ;or the one who killed 157 ;117 of them are soldiers;and u will know who is the terrorist;(children don't know how to lie)
12. The God of Israel is not a liberal...
Believe Torah ,   or Belive Man   (10.10.06)
13. Israel is at war now, act accordingly.
Listen to your mom ,   Don't be stupid   (10.10.06)
14. to 11 - defining terrorist
Intent counts ,   USA   (10.10.06)
You write down nothing but numbers of fatalities and say 'just ask a child because you know they don't lie'. Let's assume that children are, indeed, completely honest. They are only honest within their limited worldview. Children are very simplistic, rather like your argument. In your argument, you do not address who was targeted, you do not address intent. A terrorist, by definition, is one who acts with the intent to terrorize. Hence, one who targets civilians (Hizbullah, whose deliberately rockets hit civilian areas) even if their death toll is much lower because of their less effective weapons, is more of a terrorist than one who kills civilians but WARNS them, one who undertakes riskier military missions or compromises operational secrecy, as the IDF did the entire war, in order to try to REDUCE unavoidable civilian casualties that occur during a war. I know it's a lot easier just to look at plain numbers, to approach the world in black and white and not realize that politics and wars are more complicated than that. However, if you want to pretend to know anything about politics and wars, you need to acknowledge and address the complexity, not just the numbers.
15. To lina
jason ,   haifa   (10.10.06)
Hezbollah didn't destroy 100 tanks. israel lost 8 soldiers in tanks. By the way the tanks that israel had that fired rockets at the rockets didn't get hit. Israel will in the future have all their tanks with anti rocket protection systems. Hezbollah is a joke they fired 4,000 rockets and killed 20 jews. They killed 20 palestinians. Hezbollah didn't kill 118 soldiers a lot of them died in friendly fire. Hezbollah shot down one helicopter out of thousands of missions. They are a joke. Israel still has sheeba farms. Israel could obliterate hezbollah anytime with their submarines.
16. To lina from brasil: cluster bombs
Jason ,   haifa   (10.10.06)
Go to lebanon people are living in a prison from cluster bombs. Cluster bombs are causing mass amputations. Hundreds have already lost limbs. The beaches are filled with cancerous toxins and oil from the plant. The water from the toxic cloud dust that people drink will give people cancer. The food people are eating from the sea is toxic. This is not a victory it is hell. They can't even open up their school year. They couldn't even evacuate their is trauma not victory. They can't even go out to their fields. Get out of brazil and see what kind of victory it is. It is more like prison.
17. to jason (I love hezbullah)
lina ,   brasil   (10.10.06)
are u happy with the cluster bombs. when israel get in to lebanon;she said that this war isfor attacking hezbollah; then tell me why she put more than million cluster bombs? because this cluster bombs are not hurting hezbullah;it's hurting the children; Is your jewish religion permit that;and we all know that israel put that cluster bumbs to kill children;if this religion permit that (go to the hell with your religion) and then they say that hezbollah is the terrorist;;;;;; when hezbollah kills 2 children with his rockets ;sayed hassan nassrallah apologize for their family; and u did u apologize for killing 600 children! you became happy for killing that children ;you know why ;because you know that when u kill more children ;you will hurt more hezbollah;because hezbollah carry about his children; and I know you will come and say oh hezbullah begin the war;I want to ask u something ;(Is this war bring to u your dear soldiers?)157 israelense died for nothing; because the superman olmert say that this war is to get back the soldiers; I love hezbullah because he make us free in 2000 from this cancer;and he defend our country; it's true that we lost many lives and many house;but the most important that israel can't stay in our country for 20 years like before; because we have hezbullah to defend us;and he is building for us all the houses you had destroyed; and here in brasil all the lebaneses who have money ;sell it to hezbollah to help him to build all the houses. and god bless our sayed hassan nassrallah; But thousands of lebaneses are despost to die to protect him and to protect hezbullah. And the prove of that was when sayed hassan appearing in beirut;1 million and half were there;and they know that israel maybe will attack him ;and kill many people with him;and the people didn't import with that;it's a pleasure for us dying with sayed hassan.
18. to all postings ,up and down
not religouse ,   jerusalem   (10.10.06)
alas [[ SHABAT WAS ENTER ........... ]]
19. racist hypocrites
peace? ,   oPt   (10.10.06)
If Israel can have nucs then why shouldn't other rogue states be allowed to?? For an occupying regime to have nucs seems much more belligerent to me than 3rd world or developing countries doing so.
20. Lina - Brazil
Vicki ,   Kadima,Israel   (10.10.06)
If you love Hizballa so much and Lebanon so much, why on earth are you living in Brazil. Most probably because of all the nazi's living there, I am sure you must get on well with them. You are spouting pure rubbish, as one of the posters said here, get your facts straight, it is easy to quote numbers. We did not force people to use their homes as rocket launchers. We pamphleted areas where we were going to drop bombs, the only problem was that the ordinary person was stopped from leaving because of Hizballah. I agree in some respects that we did not win this war and Hizballah has re-grouped, re-armed and are ready to go. The only problem, is because of their ignorance they don't see themselves as pawns used by Iran to fight their war. Israel has the capability of wiping out Lebanon, but chose not to, why?, because we care about life. We do no encourage young people to blow themselves up. Lina, you are one very short sighted brainwashed person. I do not hate you, I just feel sorry for you that you have been so blinded by the propoganda you are fed. Unfortunately it is only a matter of time before the next round starts. I can assure you however, we will not sit like ducks next time round, specially if the rockets get to Tel-Aviv and beyond. You will see a different approach. It is very sad that all the world leaders are power mad war mongers, maybe if women were in charge things would be a little bit better, and I don't mean Condi Rice as she is a man without balls anyway.
21. Lina, so what.
Truth ,   USA   (10.10.06)
Iran http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20060424&s=kuntzel042406 Terrorists http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse/?imgIndex=1&autoShow=6 Brazil http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/bra-ch.htm You probably think Israel a huge Goliath too; always get facts. http://tongue-slayers.blogspot.com/
22. to vicki
lina ,   brasil   (10.10.06)
ah e try to wipe lebanon;and u will see how iran will wipe u; and I'm sorry that you think that israel didn't wipe lebanon because lives;because she know that if she wipe lebanon;all the world will hate her ;and all the world will work together to fight israel; for that honey you didn't wipe lebanon; what do u want ?to love israel and hate hezbollah? if hitler come back now and ask for israel forgiveness; wil u forgive him ;(sure not); and u israel for us like hitler;vicki think one moment who killed more people hitler or u; and sure u didn't see ths fotos od the children in lebanon dyingof kana; and then u say that u see a fighter of hezbullah there; I'm sure if hezbullah can kill a soldier of israel;but he knows that if he kill him;he will kill 6o children of him;he will not do it; but u didn't care about any of that babies;it's not surprise for me;every body knows that israel a terrorist; and steal the land of the others;because they didn't have land to live;
23. #19 who is the hypocrite here??
CRY BABIES   (10.10.06)
We may be "belligerent" but we dont go shouting off at the rooftops for the our need for Nuclear power..we have had it for decades and have been no more threat to the region..than you and your friends Lina's talkbacks... By the way, get ur facts right, Israel does not occupy the west bank, it does have a border entrance which allows those Palestinians who wish to work in Israel to do so...that is choice that they made...the fact that the check them at the borders so what..all countries have check posts whats the difference.. Get it through your heads..you complained when Israel was in the West Bank and now they are out...you are still complaining...Look how much good the PA and Hamas are doing for the people...I havent seen one good thing come out of their union aside from warring factions..oh but of course Israel as usual, is to blame.!!
24. Is this man serious?
Darrien ,   UK   (10.10.06)
I cannot believe Ynet has given this man so much space. He is obviously a crackpot. He waffles on about the "the democratic and industrialized countries" threatening "disobedient countries " if they don't do as they are told. Can he not see that the reason why these "disobedient countries" seek nuclear capability is so that they can be protected from the threatening Superpowers. If my son were to take up karate to put him on level terms with the school bully, would Ben-Yishai sanction him? I don't think so. He lives in a world of "Us" and "Them". and of course the former are always in the right.
25. Lina
Vicki ,   Kadima,Israel   (10.10.06)
As I said in my previous reply, you are just one sad, brainwashed person. I need not say more, your talkback says it all!!!!!!!!!!!.
26. weakness of argument
alan ,   san fran   (10.10.06)
The West's detterence is limited to Israel, the US, perhaps the UK, and certainly not Sweden, Norway, Russia, China, or Cuba and its allies. Waiting for the others to climb aboard is like waiting for Godot. Ain't gonna happen. The premiss is not in accord with political reality. Best solution is to bomb Iran into the stone age asp as a never ending message about anyone who wants to follow suit
27. Nuclear Israel
daniel k ,   Arlington, VA. USA   (10.10.06)
Does Ron Ben-Yishai really fail to comprehend that Israel is also perceived as a rogue nuclear state in the eyes of much of the international community? The Israeli military has proven to be much more aggressive, expansionist, and offensive than either the N. Korean or the Iranian militaries. Its probably the second most aggressive military power in the world after the United States. A nuclear North Korea and a nuclear Iran are grave threats to global security, but Ben-Yishai should not forget that these nations are not nearly as threatening to world peace as a nuclear Israel and a nuclear US. Disarmament should be a goal - a monopoly on nuclear weapons held by the West should not be.
28. why can other people also have nukes
khan ,   Canada   (10.10.06)
In my point of view the rich western nations have a problem. they want to control the whole world and by having the best weapon anything thing they do is justified. may i ask you that you should also see the problems witht the poor countries and their problems rather than hogging on to your own views
29. article
robert ,   usa missispi   (10.10.06)
this article is a absolute joke this ron bin yeshani keeps on talking about 3rd world contries and keeps on talking about israel--does he not know that israel would be a 6th world country had it not depended on our country that is the usa.if he thinks israel is taht good why not go and fight its own wars instead of dragging us into all of there wars
30. watchout
alal ,   tehran-IRAN   (10.11.06)
I'm very sorry for all of you seeing the world only from the WAR point of view. killing is easy but living and leting other people live in peace is something else.as an iranian i promise you if we go to the point of no return there will be NOTHING left of what we call middleeast or maybe even europe.specialy with this idioatic essay :"wake up call for us" let me ask you this :who r u for naming yourself the free world you r the nation with over 3000 nuke warheads , you r the nation useing low enriched uraniom bombs in Iraq.and not to forget you droped the nuke on hiroshima and nakasaki, so first you have sign the NPT and dissarm .then tell the rest of the world wich you claim third world not to have what you do have.
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