Opinion  Ron Ben-Yishai
Wake up call for us too
Ron Ben-Yishay
Published: 09.10.06, 20:01
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31. Korea-Iranian Hyperbole
joe bongiovanni ,   Harborton, Virginia   (10.11.06)
Mr Ben-Yishai's cavalier leap from the North Korean announcement of its nuclear explosion test to the imminent nuclear war with Iran shows why Israel is falling from grace among the world's peace loving people. By ignoring the major fact that Israel has nuclear weapons, which provides the strategic precursor to alleged security threats to the entire midesast, cast the rest of his analysis to waste. He deigns to lay out the necessary steps to stop Iran. However, the Iranian program is under the watchful eye of the IAEA who find no proof of any weapons activities whatsoever, while Israel has actually and already developed its own nuclear weapons in precisely the fashion that it claims Iran is pursuing. Such hot air is blatant propoganda, unworthy of its reading.
32. "your country is third world"
adam taylor ,   houston, texas   (10.11.06)
Your comments are reminiscent of a desperate nation. You make threats but the united states would blast your nukes out of the sky and return retribution on your country ten fold. You might destroy but you would be destroyed in the process and so would your life hating way of life.
33. The reason behind it all
adam taylor ,   houston texas   (10.11.06)
These nations feeble attempts to aquire nuclear technology are only proof of one thing they wish to follow suite, they see everyone else doing it and they want to do it too. Their narrow minded view of the world is costing them thier own blood. The muslim countries (in particular) are mostly poor and resentful of everyone else because their goverments usually flounder under the wieght of religious fanatiscm. They hate us but are the first ones to ask for our help. We created the first bomb so it is our duty to make sure the world dosent fall victim to the same deadly race of arms. The islamic and north korean regimes are represive and thrive off of peoples ignorance. This will be their downfall.In any event the U.S could detroy them both (North korea and Iran) if they push it too much.
34. You are Dillusional
adam taylor ,   houston, texas   (10.11.06)
To allow A goverment (if you want to call it that ) like Iran to aquire nuclear weapons is ludacris ( IF you are a member of humanity). That regimes primitive beliefs and idealogy would bring about a catastrophy, they would grossly mishandle the responsibility of having nuclear weapons and endanger the world in the process. I for one like living in a stable world. If you like giving crazy people nuclear weapons that your problem, But that exactly the reason why palestine is has accomplished nothing.
35. complainer
Jesse ,   Monterey Calif USA   (10.11.06)
Who does Isreal complain to ah the american taxpayer what would happen without our money hypocrite. you would probably be as bad off as the palestinians
36. What if?
RS ,   USA   (10.11.06)
What if we simply pull out our troops scattered everywhere and let all the chips fall where they may. Fortify our borders our defenses to the way it should be. Let's see how happy everyone will be when we're out of the equation.
37. ur not that big u think
alal ,   Iran   (10.11.06)
im not saying having a nuke war head is a benefit what matters :your are not the right people to lead others nations ,your goverment is as crazy as you think ours are you dont know a thing about us your CIA is a totall mess (see IRAQ) and you think your the wisest of all??? give us the world a break any of you ever been to mideast?
38. lets nuke them
Uncle Sam ,   Kansas City, Missour   (10.11.06)
We should just nuke the middle east, everyone in the world hates these people. They live as if it was 2000 years ago. Down with them all.
39. Radical Nukes
Bob ,   Ithaca, NY   (10.11.06)
The girl in the ad is cute.
40. Response to talkback 30
adam taylor ,   houston, texas   (10.12.06)
The united states calls itself the free-world because this country embodies what it is to be free, while other countries only make feeble attempts to copy our type of government. Yes we have 3000+ nukes, but we need them to protect ourselves against fanatics like you. The comment you just made is a testament to why we are trying to stop your country from aquiring nukes. And yes we dropped bombs on nagasaki and hiroshima, But what you dont understand (and never will ) is that dropping the bombs was an act of resposibilty, and that in doing so we saved thounsands of american and japanese lives by making an invasion of the japanese homland unneccessary. When your country meets the standards of my country "the Beloved United states of America" then you can critisize our past victories over tyranny. If you want to hate us fine But Here are some incentives to hate us a little more 1) We are the most powerful nation the world has ever seen.2) we started the nuclear race and will finish it with you (if neccessary)3) Your country in its wildest dreams could not match the power of the U.S armed forces. 4) Our Technology has far surpassed conventional nukes and you are just now struggling to aquire one.5) and finally WE DO NOT USE OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN AS SHIELDS AGAINST ATTACK. LONG LIVE THE UNITED STATES THE FIRST AND FREE NATION OF THE EARTH.
41. RESPONSE TO TALKBACK # 36
ADAM TAYLOR ,   HOUSTON TEXAS   (10.12.06)
That sounds like a good Idea, but if we pulled our troops out no other countries would have the balls to do the right thing. And as a result our enemies would mass against us . So we have to take the offensive and take the fight to the shores of the enemy ( while we still can). I would muck rather wonderful troops be scattered abroad then scattered at home (you know what I.m sayin). But I like the fortify our borders part
42. Simplistic
LB ,   Australia   (10.12.06)
The article is simplistic. We inthe West cannot expect other countries to not develop nuclear programs when we hold the worlds greatest arsenals of them, USA, Russia, Israel, Britain and France. To all the idiots who think military action will stop Iran, it wont. Apart form the fact the US has already displayed a breathtaking level of incompetance in all aspects of the Iraq war, what makes you tink Iran would go any easier when they have three times the land, almost four times the population and are one of the most nationalistic countries on earth? the US would not succeed in ousting the current regime and even if it did, any future regime would continue with the nuclear program. America and Israel have lablled over 1100 targets in Iran that are connected to its nuclear program, but guess what, it doesnt know where half the key 33 facilities are, and the ones which we do know the location of are extremely hardened and may not be completely destroyed by even intensive airstrikes. To cap it off any attack on Iran will turn Iraq into a slaughterhouse for US forces. 20% of the population are resisting US occupation at the moment, if Iran is attacked you will have 80% as the Shia majority will not be happy/ To complete nut jobs which think we should nuke the Middle East, apart from the massive, possibly apocalyptic environmental damage this would do, the US has too many vital economic interests in the region for it to be valid. I suggest you go back to kindergarten before you spout such insane bullshit in public. Its time people realise the unfortunate truth, Western military dominance has ended, we no longer have an unassailable position of strength from which to dictate our will to the world. Its time to start playing smart the way we did before our military dominance became absolute
43. The good old US of A
LB ,   Australia   (10.12.06)
Oh yes, the greatest power ever to exist on earth which cant even pacify a single third world country when Britain controlled a third of the globe and Rome a quarter of the worlds population. The first free nation on earth with endemic poverty, severe racial prejudice, and institutionalised torture and detention without trial, something outlawed in habeus corpus dating back to the 13th century. Put away teh bullshit, the US is no different from any other empire, it certainly has no special moral advantage over teh rest of the world. Going around claiming to be superior when the entire western world has an equal or higher level of freedom and standard of living just annoys the hell out of people and makes you look stupid. By the way nuclear weapons are the greatest force equaliser. A weak country with nukes can defend itself from a more powerful country, with or without nukes. A powerful country with nukes really doesnt need many to deter any conventional attack against it. Unfortunately there are plenty of non-conventional ways of attacking nuclear powers, as we are seeing. the great irony of all this is that US power is already dying thanks to its own incompetence. If the USA were not quite so corrupt and competant, and their military cared more about winning than fat defense contracts, the world could be in real trouble.
44. N.K and Iran nuclear threat
Se ,   United States   (10.12.06)
2 points. 1. Japan is due from Korea and China, not only for WWII but for other wars as well, what Japan did to China and Korea was equivalent or greater than the holocaust as claimed by the Jews. (Including horrid experiements and extermination camps) 2. Israel and America have a lot of growing up to do, both countries relied on killing to make their point with other countries and act like after the fact, no harm was done. Israel killed 1200 people in Lebanon this summer over the kidnapping of 2 men and America provided the cover and the bombs. Both act as bad as the terrorists they claim to be fighting and have no credibility. Between dropping millions of cluster bombs, to continually breaking cease fires and killing Palestinians on a whim, Israel and America are the rogue nations. No doubt NK and Iran are just as crazy, but to try to paint one group as moral or righteous is ridiculous. We have seen the faces of Israel and America, behind the masks, both are violent pigs--just as bad as the terrorists--no worse--because they cloak their hypocrisy in state militaries and pretend they are fighting for survival and decency--they are fighting for dominance and power and to try to keep their monopoly on the monster club.
45. the bomb and man
kevin ,   Calif, Usa   (10.12.06)
The big question, has man ever invented something and not used it at some time or another. Answer: NO?
46. "this coming from a prison colony"
adam taylor ,   houston ,texas   (10.12.06)
Good old Aussies, you sound like a muslim. You forget that you are part of western civilization too and your very existance is due to englands exspansion. Oh I forgot australia started as a prison colony(good credible grounds for an argument). For all our flaws the U.S is stii the greatest country in the world. You would stay on you shitty island and let the world go to shit because you are afraid. We dont want to "dictate our will to the world you nArrow minded fool. we want to make the world safe from our own mistakes and its own. And we are the only country that can do it with conviction. And I said that we should nuke the middle east in repsonse to the crazy ravings from of a lebanese man.i am all for diplomacy, but it ;s not working. these people want to kill us because they believe that we are non believers including you.And thier Bible teaches this. You are pacive because your country has not been attacked and even if it was australia would ask for U.S support and you know it. the Statistics of the iraq war dont speak to intention of the american people. While we WILL protect our intrest abroad including oil, but we are also the largest humianitarian contributor the world has ever seen, so we talk the talk and walk the walk. What has australia done but site on the sidelines and promises a minimal number of troops to world causes. Befor you start to bacs america, you should think about who your allies are and who could really help you were you to be in the cross hairs of a major confrontation.
47. repsonse to talk back #43
american patriot ,   katy, texas   (10.12.06)
We are not an empire we are the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Get it right ,if we were like japan the world would be in trouble. No we dont have a moral advantage, but we have the MIlitary advantage, the economic adavantage,and political advantage . You sound like a muslim. Because You lack the burden and power of your people to step up the plate of global repsponsibility. Your critisiscms fall on deaf ears. Has you country ever fouhgt a two front war NO. Has you country led the way in almost every facit of human development both technologicly and scientificly NO. So Shut your mouth and complian to your own impetent government. We have work to do. In this game of global conflict , the mot powerful player wins, You critisize the U.S but we are just doing what someone else would have to do eventually and doing it the best way we can. If we wanted to take over we could, but thats not what our people are about. just the fact that you can get on the web and critisize us is a testament to your ignorance in calling us an empire. Your are obviously not american so what do you care if we fall, although it is highly unlikley. We dont claim to be superior, its just that A democracy is hard to maintain and we have done a damn good job at it. Your prove an old proverb correct " that peole hate waht they dont understand" its scary that you live in australia I weep for your country.
48. NK and iran nuclear threat #2
adam taylor ,   houston, texas   (10.13.06)
1 point 1)I am ashamed to call you a countrymen. We do not kill innocent women and children in the name of god. We do not starve our populations of food and freedom. we do not convince our children to kill and die for the sake of god. We do not act depsite the international community. we do not Publicly behead people and vidoetape it. And most importantly we dont use nuclear weapons to make threats and use as leverage. Whats wrong with dropping cluster bombs, (hell whats wrong with crashing planes into buildings) you are missing the point. Your paragraph dosent even speak of the Nk iranian nuclear threat, your just bashing the U.S and Israel. I wouldnt want you in my corner. We dont try to paint ourselves as morally righteuos we just dont act like neanderthals, blowing people up and and threatening to launch nukes at everyone. If you hate america so much why dont you move to afghanistan and see if you can write a statement like this about the taliban with out bieng beheaded. Ill give it to you our current administration is a joke. But that dosent change the fact that 3000 people died on 9/11 and that dosent change the fact that north korea (now a nuclear power is lead by a severley narcisistic man). Damn right we make our point in killing, so does AL queda. And these people arent part of the united nations so we cant reason with them, So we kill them before they kill us Its that simple. If you were in charge of the government you would have us wait until thousands of americans died from a nuclear blast from a bomb that NK sold to IRan. "Yeah great leader you would be" . The only monster club I see is your monstrous ignorance and unamerican attitude towards peace in the world. I'll end this patriotic monolog with a quote from yours truly. " If we dont do it no one else will"
49. Ridiculous!
Rusty S. ,   Indiana, US   (10.13.06)
I'm curious whether you believe any nation should even have a military force and, if yes, under what circumstances you would allow it to be used? Just as money can be used or misused, depending on the character of the possesor, the difference between the West - and Israel, S. Africa, Brazil, Japan, etc. - and Iran, N. Korea, and other nuclear wannabees is that we perceive our military capability to be for the purpose of defending the life, liberty, and pursiut of happiness we enjoy and the aspirations of those peoples that would do likewise. What would you point to in Iran/N. Korea that you would expect other people to find inspiring? Do you expect either of them to liberate anyone? What have they done to prove themselves upstanding members of the world community to be trusted with great military power? Among all the comments on this blog, the most ridiculous is your remark labeling Israel a "rogue nuclear state"! Is that what compelled Egypt and Jordan to sign a peace treaty? Israel "expansionist"!? Who gave up land in the Camp David peace accords and has been negotiating for peace on that basis since? Who unilaterally pulled out of Gaza!? Disarmament is the international equivelant of gun control. Ridiculous because the bad guys don't play by the rules anyhow. It's a good thing you live in the West. It's the only place with enough liberty and stability to allow for blind, esoteric world views like yours!
50. Cavalier leap, blatant propaganda
Rusty S. ,   Indiana, US   (10.13.06)
The only "cavalier leap" here is in your proclamation of Israel's nuclear weapons to be "the strategic precursor" to mideast security threats! The author has not taken the 'axis of evil' out of context to make his points. You, on the other hand, have completely ignored the context of Israel's geographic realities and the fact that in her brief history she has been multiple times attacked by a consortium of her neighbors, to establish Israel's nuclear weapons as "the precursor" for current regional "security threats"! You have also bought into the "blatant propaganda" that the IAEA has a "watchful eye" that is not in need of Lasik surgery. Though the IAEA was in Iran long before the world had any knowledge of her nuclear enrichment program, it was through an Iranian opposition group that the secret details and locations of the enrichment effort were exposed - not he IAEA. Oh, and by the way, as one of those "peace loving people" you mentioned, Mr. Ben-Yishai's attempt to foster consideration of how other "peace loving people", like you and I, might work together to contain illegal dispersion of WMD technology in no way casts Isreal in a disparaging view. It requires "cavalier leaps, ...hot air, [and] blatant propaganda" like yours to accomplish that!
51. to adam taylor : go get a life
Alal   (10.13.06)
go get a life and come out of dreams, your not what u think u r i've seen you form places in ur country that you can't afford to go.
52. LOL to ALAL
adam taylor ,   houston, texas   (10.13.06)
Why dont you learn how to speak and write in english before you critisize pal. "You are speaking the language of the infadel" arent you ?
53. To Mr Adam Taylor Texan #40 41 46
Peace be upon u too ,   IRAN   (10.14.06)
What does a good old cowboy know about the rest of the World? Can you even find the rest of the World on a map to throw your UN-HUMAN bombs on it? Your illogical sense of reason is good for the cows you hide behind, like the great govts which have ruled you which keep thinking that killing people is the same as killing cows! Of course sacrificing a few hundred or thousands of YOUR OWN population is not a great deal, so why should the race to kill the Arabs or the Blacks or the Yellows matter? Your logic is the mentality of fanatic racist sadists who use secret prisons to do their filthy sickening sexual needs that they probably cant force on their "free" cowgirl girlfriends and wives. Talk about sick people and give them the BIGGEST weapon (their genitals would do) and listen to them bully the populations of the World as if they were all cows! By the way, speaking your English language is not a great deal cause even the most illiterate people of the world can do so. u probably dont even know what the World speaks sitting in your ranch and getting your thumbs tired on the crazy video games you play to kill the ENEMIES of your virtual brains. YOU need to see the real blood and the real flesh torn apart on your family members to keep it a bit more low key, but YOU are probably stuffing yourselves with the Oil you are pumping not only from your own oil wells, but stealing it from the ME and it sure doesn't seem enough to satisfy your greedy stomachs which make you look like cute little pink pigs with curly tails and red ties… By the way, "criticize" is not spelled "critisize" and "infidel" is not spelled "infadel". Don’t you know how to write in your own language? And whenever YOU learn ANOTHER LANGUAGE and speak it correctly we will see if you are as intelligent as you think you are! Probably aren't since your intelligence has told you that to kill other people is justifiable! so PEACE BE UPON YOU and JUST SIT COMFORTABLY IN YOUR CHAIR and watch the rest of the world suffer. Or go join the US Army. But please, please don’t give your opinion! It is a real BLOW to the pride you want to have. SLAVERY IS OVER kid! You'll have to learn that one way or the other!
54. THE TRUTH
adam taylor ,   houston,texas   (10.15.06)
Adam Taylor for president, Adam you are the man!!!! THESE COLORS DON`T RUN, USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
55. YOU KNOW
PAUL REVERE ,   US,OF A   (10.15.06)
1776-1976 YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
56. CHECK IT OUT ALAL, I AM ADAMS ALLY
RAMBO 3 ,   S-TOWN.CA.   (10.15.06)
OUTSTANDING ADAM!!!!!!!!1 USA!!!
57. ALAL`S REPORT CARD.
JOHN LOUIS GITTHENS ,   STOCKTON, CA   (10.15.06)
WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO WRITE ALAL? GO BACK TO SCHOOL!! ADAM TAYLOR OUT CLASSES YOU BY FAR!!!!!!!! DREAM ON !
58. ALAL`S PROGRESS REPORT
REMEMBER RAMBO 3 ,   S-TOWN,CA.   (10.15.06)
HEY ALAL YOU GOT AN F
59. about "wonning"
dr evil ,   US   (10.16.06)
well the reason Israel attacke will be very clear when hizbolla or gazeebulla or crapulla or whoever will now be very afraid to even launch a simple attack on its soil!! plain and simple..! So i suppose nobody "won"... but hizbolla got the message loud and clear.. this will prevent more bloodshed in the future..
60. It's not the reactors that are dangerous; it is the Regime
Consultingdoc, Ph.D. ,   Dallas TX USA   (10.16.06)
Taking out Iran's nuclear facilities, its air force and ballistic missiles, its navy and its command and control facilities is certainly do-able and advisable. However, these can all be reconstituted by Russia, China and N Korea. With the first cruise missile strike, we need to take out the Mullahs, and the upper echelons of the Revolutionary Guards. The Iranians are Western-oriented, decent people. When freed from the Mullah's dictatorship, they will become strong allies of the West, and will abandon their nuclear ambitions. It's the radical Muslim regime, dahlings. Iran is not Iraq. The secular people are intelligent and highly educated and do NOT want to live in a dictatorship. We will do them, as well as the world, a favor by liberating them from the layers of Islamic clerics and nutcases who opress them and lead them towards the abyss.
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