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British MP: Israel employed Nazi tactics in Lebanon
Hagit Klaiman
Published: 13.10.06, 21:11
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31. He was ok until he used the word "Nazi"?
John ,   USA   (10.14.06)
It is true that civilian convoys got bombed, and it is highly controversial if they had permission from the IDF to be there.
32. lol, his statement means "every army general is a nazi"
Suzanne   (10.14.06)
coz bridges e.g. are an important military (unfortuantely also civilian) target during warfare. according to this fellow: that makes many nazis and defintely nato a fascist nazi organisation. I think a good laugh into his face should be enough.
33. #2 the ignorant antisemite moron with a warped
Adam ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.14.06)
topsy turvey mind.
34. To Mr. Turner. How Would You Call That Of Iraq?
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (10.14.06)
British MP Mr. Turner said:".. extraordinarily high level of civilian casualties ..". During 34 days of the Lebanon war 700 Hezbollah operatives and some 800 civilians were killed. IF you call this extraordinary high level - how would you call the monthly 3,000 deaths in Irak, for the past 6 months??
35. So what is Gaza if not a huge, sealed-off camp?
Bruno ,   Haifa   (10.14.06)
We surround Gaza on land, sea, and air.We prevent the free flow of people and goods. We attack targets in Gaza with impunity. We prevent Gaza and Gazans from accessing the outside world. We fence off Gaza and enclose it totally. If this is not a concentration of people in a limited area, what is? Callng it a concentration camp arouses far too many associations - but what's the difference? When you build a wall (actual and figurative) around people, allowing them no way in or out, and surround the entire area by troops, this is surely a concentration camp.
36. Turner. to # 2
gavriel ,   maoz zion   (10.14.06)
Where did you get children no 800? About half on that 1100 were Hizbullah terrorists, who lived with the civilians in towns & villages. No officiel figures have been published, all are those of propaganda and highly inflated. .
37. Observer Leon France 2#
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (10.14.06)
I observed the whole of Lebanon supporting Hezbollah. Oh that's right---except when they were getting bombed back. Then all they did, was whine and cry about their plight, after supporting terrorists who crossed into Israel killing eleven soldiers and kidnapping two other soldiers. Anyone who knows a damn thing about Israeli's, knows they will do practically anything to get their soldiers back. It's called knowing what will happen if I do this or that. Cause and Effect. Because the results were disasterous for Lebanon doesn't give the Lebanese a pass. They started and supported this little charade. At least the Israeli's didn't raise a white flag and run for the hills.
38. @Bruno from Haifa
Suzanne   (10.14.06)
Why are there borders in this world anyhow? People are being restricted going from one place to the other. Living together with their beloved husband or wife due to nation laws and are forced to live elsewhere. What's new? Concerning Gaza: if Palestinians quit terror, a vivid trade between Israelis and Palestinians will arise. Both will benefit from it and the borders will become more vague. How difficult it is to realise reality?
39. 30 - are you sure you're a "dr"?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (10.14.06)
i thought doctors could read. did i say: "Israel did not use even 1 per cent force"? no. i said: "israel didn't employ even 1% of 'nazi tactics'". tactics. you're a "dr". you should be able to figure out the difference between fighting a war of aggression in order to increase an empire and subjugate the population and exploit it in order to fuel the war machine's next victims. is that what israel did? a smart guy like you doesn't need me to explain the obvious.
40. To No. 11
NYC Girl   (10.14.06)
Your post was exceedingly funny. I hope people understand your reference to "raisins" and why you substituted the letter "b" for "p." Good show.
41. To No. 35, Bruno
Sick of stupid posts   (10.14.06)
If you can't figure out the difference between Gaza and a concentration camp, it's obvious you've never been in a concentration camp. Since you live in Israel, I suspect you'll be able to find a few Holocaust survivors who can educate you. I'd suggest you do that before you say anything else this incredibly stupid. And if by some chance you're going to tell me you lost family members in the Holocaust, then please do everybody a favor and check yourself into a facility that treats people with psychiatric disorders.
42. 35 Bruno, Haifa: As a Holocaust Survivor I tell YOU
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (10.14.06)
Your comments smell of Hate and smell of a serious misconception what the Holocaust was all about Shame onto You ....... You are the concept of Jew hate ... It's time you educate yourself: Visit the Holocaust Museum Yad Vashem, Jerusalem http://www.yadvashem.org/
43. Concentration camps NOT death camps
Bruno ,   Haifa   (10.14.06)
My point related to concentrating people in one area not to death camps. Not every usage of the term "concentration camp" needs to elicit the kneejerk reaction of the Holocaust or the Final Solution. Would you prefer Ghetto? Not every ghetto is the Warsaw Ghetto - but walling people in - not because it's their territory, but because you control access and free travel, reeks of managing a ghetto.
44. #43
(10.14.06)
Your comparison still SUCKS.
45. To #2 - well-said
Noora ,   Bahrain   (10.14.06)
46. #43 if it is a ghetto, it is a of their own making
still watching in ,   NY   (10.14.06)
The comparison is fair. However, the reasons for it differ greatly from traditional notions of the term ghetto. If Gaza is a ghetto, it is that way because the Israeli government needs to contain and control a threat to the existence of the State, not to discriminate based on racial or religious difference and xenophobia. Huge difference in my book!
47. We Jews reserve "Nazi tactics" for ...
Ephraim ,   Tel Aviv   (10.14.06)
... later use against the Europeans. We shall not forget what the Europeans have done to us for seventeen centuries. Even though we are engaged in a long war with Muslims, we know that the wildest Islamist extremist is not as cruel and bloodthirsty as the majority of Europeans. We shall never use "Nazi tactics" against our neighbors. We shall never use our nuclear weapons against Muslims, even if our lives are in danger. If worst comes to worst, our ICBMs with nuclear warheads will fall on Europe, not on our Muslim neighbors.
48. Lebanon-Hizbullah-Syria-Iran WAR AGAINST ISRAEL & FREE WORLD
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.14.06)
Lebanon's government colluded with Hizbullah in unprovoked, vicious acts of war against Israel. Lebanese army radars were used to lock in Israeli targets for Hizbullah missile crews. YNETNEWS (08.12.06, 16:52) Siniora accepts deal, praises Hizbullah ...steadfastness of resistance fighters in field was very important,' http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3290107,00.html Islamists lie about the number of civilians wounded and killed. Photo Fraud in Lebanon Aish.com's new movie:http://www.aish.com/movies/JP/PhotoFraud.asp Israel repeatedly warned Qana residents several days in advance via leaflets and radio to leave the area - 150 rockets were launched from Qana - these rockets killed 18 Israelis and wounded hundreds. Less numbers of Israelis were killed than Lebanese because Israel does not immorally use Israeli civilians as human shields. Israel protected her citizens - over one million Israelis lived for one month in bomb shelters. Israel's third largest city Haifa, was under regular rocket barrage. Hundreds of rockets were fired at northern Israel every day, many times more than were daily fired at Britain during the Blitz. Iran's guerrilla army Hizbullah rained down over 4,000 rockets on Israeli population centers. The rockets packed with thousands of metal ball bearings to maximize the suffering of Israeli victims. Iran's terrorist army Hizbullah committed war crimes using Lebanese civilians as human shields to protect rocket launching teams - setting up rockets and other weapons in apartment blocks, schools and mosques. Embedded in densely populated civilian areas, Hizbullah despicably shoot from inside mosques, hospitals and schools in south Lebanon. Images show Hizbullah using high-density residential areas to launch rockets: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html Global jihadists Hizbullah's goal is the murder of every Jew on earth. On October 22, 2002 Hizbullah's leader Nasrallah told Lebanon's Daily Star: "If they (Jews) all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide." The purpose of the PLO as enshrined in its charter is the destruction of Israel. PLO terrorists were implanted into Israel through Oslo "peace" accords. The Hamas Charter states: "Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims... Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it..." Iran proclaim repeatedly they intend to destroy America and wipe Israel off the map. Iran is dangerously close in achieving nuclear capability to execute their genocidal goal. Hamas and Iran's terrorist army Hizbullah, fully trained and armed with the most advanced sophisticated military equipment fight Iran's war against Israel and the free world. The ultimate goal is the entire world subjugated under Islamist rulers. Surrounded by 22 huge, hostile Arab nations, tiny Israel's battle for survival against global jihad is a fight for freedom and human rights for all nations.
49. Hypocrite Ignores PA Call for MURDER of JEWS & AMERICANS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.14.06)
PA/PLO are the recipients of mega U.S. tax dollars. Americans are immorally forced to finance jihad against Jews and Americans. The planned genocide of Jews by PA/PLO/Hamas, Hizbullah-Syria-Iran et al, breaks international law and must be addressed by the International Criminal Court. The U.S. EU, UN Road Map Global Islamic Terror State Two in Judea, Samaria and parts of Jerusalem will reduce tiny Israel to indefensible 6-10 miles wide Auschwitz borders facilitating Jewish annihiliation and advancing global jihad's unopposed march to world conquest. The Palestinian Authority teach through their mosques, media, summer camps, and public education system, that murdering Jews is a religious obligation. Human bomb killers of Jewish innocents are revered and considered heroes by PA society. Palestinian Authority society are taught murdering Jews is the highest goal in life and attains paradise: http://www.pmw.org.il/AFD.html The Palestinian Authority hailed as heroes the terrorists who brutally murdered defenseless 8 months pregnant Jewish Gaza mother, Tali Hatuel, and four little daughters in Gush Katif in May 2004. Thousands of Palestinian Authority Muslims celebrate in the streets and pass out sweets whenever Jewish innocents, including children, are murdered by human bomb killers. Effigies of burning buses are features of PA school pageants and summer camps. Streets and soccer teams are named after suicide bombers. Adults and children train in terrorist training camps. Terrorists have been captured at Israeli checkpoints posing as ambulance drivers, doctors and patients. Islamists have hidden explosive suicide belts under gurneys carrying sick children and in the garments of pregnant women. Red Crescent ambulances transport terrorists, weapons and bombs. Broadcast from Gaza mosque, Oct 13 2000, Dr. Ahmad Abu Halabiya, on Palestinian Authority TV (transcribed by Memri): "Have no mercy on the Jews, no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them. Wherever you are, kill those Jews and those Americans who are like them..." http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse
50. reply to # 20, #4
sally ,   lebanon   (10.15.06)
#20: I'm sorry, the enemy?! 40% of the people killed in lebanon were children, the other 59% were civilians and 1% were actually 'the enemy' - hezbollah. I'm sorry, but if Israel's attacks were due to intellegent info. then they must be pretty stupid because they barely did any harm to hezbollah. Now, as you can see, you are the ignorant one because according to Israel, Lebanon was not the enemy, Hezbollah was, so killing the children and civilians was not necessary. #4: The reason Israel's flags are not 'linning lebanon's northern border' is due to the fact that israel was unable to make it past the southren lebanese cities by land because Hezbollah was able to push them back, not because they are unlike nazis.
51. MR. TURNER ????
V. n.y. ,   Usa   (10.15.06)
I TAKE GREAT AND PERSONAL OFFENSE TO YOUR REMARK AS A JEW, AN ISRAELI, BUT MAINLY AS A FAIR PERSON. israel committed these "war crimes", as you call them because: 1..we've had enough with suicide bombers, terror attacks in our country, kidnappings and murder. 2..you may not understand or realize that ONE PERSON, ONE SOLDIER, ONE ISRAELI LIFE is 100% worth this conflict in the hopes of bringing him back to us unharmed. you have NO CLUE what arabs do to israeli prisoners. let me tell you, it's not pretty! 3..you may not negotiate with terrorists and let your countryman be beheaded in iraq, but us israelis will not forget those taken from us and we'll fight to the death to rescue them by any means available...hence this war in lebanon and the ensuing bombings. 4..don't preach to anyone, to any country to any government on what to do and what is the approptiate response in protecting its civilians. if your son was gilad shalit and in enemy, murderers, terrorists' hands, how would you feel? it's very easy for you to sit from afar and condemn our reaction. since you nor your family members were involved, i would recommend you close your mouth and keep your opinions to yourself, the great politician that you are!
52. 50 - israel stopped b/c of crying for cease-fire
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (10.15.06)
have you been to south lenbanon? israel laid waste to it. irael's long-term objective was to make it easier to surveil and harder for hizbullah to operate. if israel wanted to march to lebanon's northern border, it would have been there in the first week. israel was fighting hizbullah (why was most all of non-hizbullah beirut ignored?). if israel was like nazis, if would have flattened the entire city, not to mention country. and you know that.
53. EUROPE & Mainstream MEDIA'S HATE for Israel & the FREE WORLD
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.15.06)
Iran's guerrilla army Hizbullah, fired hundreds of rockets at northern Israel every day, many times more than were daily fired at Britain during the Blitz. The rockets packed with thousands of metal ball bearings to maximize the suffering of Jewish victims. Hundreds of thousands of Israelis fled to the south. Over one million Israelis were forced to live in bomb shelters for one month. In Lebanon, the mainstream media conducted a vicious propaganda war against tiny Israel and the free world - colluding with Hizbullah terrorists in deceiving the world's people with fabrications and staged productions - wicked lies designed to make Israel's moral war of self-defense against unprovoked acts of war from Lebanon - appear as immoral and evil. What really happened at Qana: http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/08/corruption-of-media.html http://youtube.com/watch?v=jw02XXJpxic http://youtube.com/watch?v=jS1fX3b-gpk Fake Lebanese casulties reported by the media: Photo Fraud in Lebanon Aish.com's new movie:http://www.aish.com/movies/JP/PhotoFraud.asp http://youtube.com/watch?v=gL0rEc2ZQu8 http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/ Images show Hizbullah using high-density residential areas to launch rockets: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html In addition to rescuing the kidnapped IDF soldiers, Israel's main goal was to eliminate the rocket threat from Lebanon. The U.S. EU and UN via the UN resolution were highly successful in preventing Israel from acheiving this goal vital to Israel's security. Europe conducts her deadly political war against Israel: www.haaretz.com Last update - 22:20 04/09/2006 Europe nixes landing rights for El Al planes with IDF cargo By Zohar Blumenkrantz, Haaretz Correspondent A number of European states are refusing to allow El Al cargo planes carrying Israel Defense Forces equipment from stopover landings in their airports. The refusal came from states considered friendly with Israel, including Britain, Germany and Italy, according to Captain Etai Regev, the chairman of El Al's pilots' union. According to Regev, El Al flights bearing heavy loads that arrive from U.S. bases "are not given approval by European states to make stopover landings for refueling, for political reasons. "As a result, cargo planes are taking off from the U.S. with much lighter weight, and are reaching Israel with significantly fewer munitions than needed." Regev called this "a substantial blow to state defense." http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/758607.html In the cruel, global war to subjugate all nations under Islamic rulers, the mainstream media and Western leaders betray Israel and the Free World's people. We are witnessing the death of Western civilization.
54. Hypocrite Ignores SUDAN'S JIHAD SLAVERY & GENOCIDE
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.15.06)
Bible, Leviticus 24:17 "If a man takes the life of any human being, he shall surely be put to death" Black Africans are the indigenous people of Sudan and are the majority population. The black Southern Sudanese Christians explain what "peace" means: If you agree to become a Muslim, you will have peace. If you reject Islam, you are at war. From 1955-1973, 1.5 million Christians were slaughtered by the Arab Muslim government in Khartoum. From 1983-2005, two million more Christians died from Khartoum's jihad. Murdering infidels is not considered a crime. Non-Muslim infidels are regarded as not entitled to human rights. Hundreds of thousands of Christians have been raped. Hundreds of thousands of Christian children and women taken for slaves. In the refugee camps, the Islamo-Fascist religious supremacist Khartoum government requires refugees to become Muslims in order to receive food and water. The genocide has resulted in the largest population of refugees on earth since the Second World War. The jihad in Sudan against Darfur's black African Muslims by Khartoum's racist Arab Muslim regime began in 2003. 400,000 black Muslims are dead. STOP Genocide - STOP Slavery - FREE the Slaves http://www.iabolish.org/ Bible, Exodus 21:16 "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death"
55. Israel
Claude Matton ,   Canada   (10.19.06)
Why is it that when another country commits the same crimes as Israel commits against the Palestinian or the Lebanese people, we say it is Genocide, but when Israel commits those similar crimes we say Israel Israel has the right to defend it self even thought they are occupying a country which has never been theirs in the first place.
56. #46
evita ,   encino,ca   (10.20.06)
That is the SPIRIT like !!!! kill the europeans, they deserve thaty are quite patients and stupid!
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