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Gibson links anti-Jewish rant with Lebanon war
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Published: 13.10.06, 23:29
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31. Gibson
Sandra ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (10.14.06)
Gibson is a fully fledged anti-Semite. Booze always brings out the truth. He does have a good teacher, his father, who has also passed his foul ideas on to another one of his sons. Runs in the family. I haven't watched his films for a long time, and never will again. I very much hope there won't be any more shown on any of the tv channels in Israel. Gibson and his ilk are revolting individuals.
32. Yes, we Jews are entirely blameless, to nr 9
Alexander   (10.14.06)
Yes Dr Joji Cheria, we Jews are entirely blameless. Hizbullah and Lebanon attacked us and not vice versa. Israel has an overwhelming military strenght and superiority over the Arab world. If Israel would have wanted to level the entire Arab world into an illuminated pile of gravel, Israel could have done that easily. You probably remember that the KIDNAPPING OF THE ISRAELI SOLDIERS AND THE VIOLATION OF THE INTERNATIONAL LEBANON-ISRAEL BORDER TOOK PLACE BEFORE ISRAEL STRIKED BACK. Are you sure you're capable of understanding the difference between an unprovoced war of aggression and a war of self -defence? Besides - why do you care? What has an Indian got to do with Israel's right to defend itself and the Jewish peope's right to get an apology from rude, evil brain dead anti-Semites that are babbling some nonsense about the devil?
33. sounds like islamic reaction to the pope's comments
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (10.14.06)
the pope/mel: did the he really mean what he said about religion ____ and is a real enemy, or is his apology sincere? maybe it's just me, but i wouldn't want to follow the poor muslim example of judgin/condemning (as is being done here). but that's just me.
34. Why is he obsessed with Jews?
Israeli ,   North   (10.14.06)
I'm a Jew, and for all i care the Irish can kill each other, the British can kill the Irish, the Americans can kill Arabs. Why isn't he obsessed with Arabs and their massacres? Is it the media that blows this conflict out of proportion?
35. Mel Gibson
James ,   Glasgow, Scotland   (10.14.06)
The man is typical of the belief he would like reinstated and therefore should be ignored. He obviously is anti-Semitic and no amount of acting the victim of circumstance can alter that. Is he not a man who kids on to be something else but unlike others of the same profession he is more actor than man. He lives not in reality but fantasy.
36. hooo so it's fine , we thought we heard
you never know when   (10.14.06)
that the jews are what you said, it's luck that you told us that you mean the israelis are not o.k are wearing in the photo your k.k.k. dress and you remember that you forgoten your conical hat? (we have lucky that israel defend her self in this way we don't need to live near recial pigs like you!) and you and your theorys do not influence us here and it's the contrary in your contrary that they need to be effect by pepole like you that try to give hope to the nazi. try to do on your self a movie maybe call it "hat gibson want" in this movie every body will hear your thoughts!(hooo dear)
37. USS Liberty
Chris ,   Wisconsin USA   (10.14.06)
Based on the comments above the US should have bombed the shit out Israel after they assaulted the USS Liberty and killed 34 Americans and wounded 174,
38. Sick beliefs
Genie ,   UK   (10.14.06)
He is the usual anti-semitic creep who appeals to those without two brain cells to rub together. I expect he also indoctrinates his numerous children with his and his own fathers sick beliefs. The only person he feels sorry for is himself. I certainly won't pay any money to watch his films and contribute to his well-being.
39. To Leroy (#20)
Jasmin ,   Haifa   (10.14.06)
You're absolutely right. I'm amazed that this jerk doesn't understand that every time he opens his mouth on this subject, he wedges his foot in a little deeper.
40. We are giving the man too much credit
darlinghurst ,   kingscross   (10.14.06)
when he deserves none. He is an actor and I still love all his films..but when he started to mix religion with his movies and pointing the finger whilst in a drunken stupor then i stopped listening to him and he became as effective as a Wino on the streets of Kings Cross..(sydney) I can take criticizm and I we dont necessarily have to see eye to eye especially with regards to his movie..Passion of Christ..but that doesnt mean that i have to go around and condemn the Catholic church or criticize Mohamad every time I am in a drunken state. Remember, Mel is an actor first and foremost..i would take all of his apologies cum granis salis..not to be believed!!
41. Liar
Phil ,   US   (10.14.06)
One point that has been missed by responders is the basic contradiction in Gibson's story. On one hand, he excuses his repusive antisemitic slurs, his sexist language, and his drunk driving because he protests that he was too drunk to control his behavior. However, in another part of the interview, he was questioned about his relatively good mug shot. Gibson then acknowledged that he didn't want to take a picture like Nick Nolte did when he was stopped for drunkeness. Nolte looked a mess. He was unkempt and looked out of it. Gibson, on the other hand looked fine in his police photo. Now, you tell me how a man who claims that he was too drunk to know what he was saying about Jews could have the awareness to prep himself for a police photo. I guess the alcohol didn't matter to his narcissism. Mel's major problem is his bigotry. Alcohol only brings it to the surface. He has enough money. He should just crawl under a rock with other racists.
42. RISE IN ANTI-SEMITISM ON GLOBAL SCALE, UNIVERSITIES INSPIRE
DAVID P ,   SANTA CRUZ, USA   (10.14.06)
WHO CARES ABOUT MEL, ITS ALL ABOUT THE RISE IN ANTI-SEMITISM AS A WHOLE, WE SHOULDN'T CONCERN OURSELVES WITH SOME DRUNKARDS TIRADE RATHER FOCUS ON THE REAL DANGER OF THIS GLOBAL SURGE IN HATRED FOR ISRAEL AND JEWS FOSTERED IN UNIVERSITIES AND THE LIBERAL LEFT
43. who cares...
Sienna ,   Tel Aviv   (10.14.06)
Who cares what Mel said in a drunken outburst....lots of people hate us, nothing new....yellla move on....next!
44. Truth about SEMITISM
Jay Jay ,   USA   (10.14.06)
There is a big difference between Semitism, Judaism, and Israeli belonging. Semitism is a RACE. Judaism is a Religion, and Israel is, well, a ZIONIST entity. Most of Jews are semites, but so are all of their neighboring ARABS. That's right, ARABS are Just as SEMETIC as MOSt JEWS. Israel is completely different. It was established according to a ZIONIST vision, and NOT a JEWSISH vision nor a divine promise. Hope this clears things up for the disillusioned
45. Mr.Gibson
Margret   (10.14.06)
Mr.Gibson is now trying to come up with flimsy excuses for making the racist,hateful remarks he did about the Jewish people. If he was genuinely sorry he would have just said it was wrong and racist to attack the Jewish people and apoligize,but instead he attacked the Jewish state. If he said bad,racist things about black people and then a few months later said the only reason he did was because crime figures show blacks commit more crime there would be a huge public outcry and he would immediately be accused of being racist by the media.Why is it OK then for Gibson and other antisemities to use Israel as a smokescreen to express their hatred against the Jews? It makes me wonder if there really isn't some credibility to the charges that the newsmedia is antisemitic.
46. Chris number 37
Margret   (10.14.06)
Your wrong Israelis did not deliberately bomb the USS Liberty it was a tragic mistake. The US government and most Americans who know anything about the incident agree. And the Israelis apoligized and compensated the families of the sailors who were killed.Did any Arab terrorists apoligize for any of the thousands of Americans they killed or maimed over the years or tried to compensate their families or loved ones? .
47. #44. Truth about SEMITISM
(10.14.06)
You should check reliable sources before showing your ignorance. Brittanica on-line or answers.com both say that anti-Semitism has been described as specifically about Jews though it is a misnomer. Or try googling anti-semitism definition and it will never mention as being specifically against Arabs.
48. Mel, Mel Go to Hell & bring your father with you!
Elchanan ,   NYC   (10.14.06)
49. #44 you should not even try
Isac ,   Florida   (10.14.06)
to teach us a history lesson. Theodor Herzl , a European Jew decideded together with other European Jews to press forward with the brilliant idea of establishing a modern State for Jews in the ancestral land of the Jews. The meaning zionist is nothing new and was always the idea for the return of the Jews in their ancestral land (around 1200 BCE) which experienced the defeat of the Great Jewish revolt, the destruction of Jerusalem and other battles. The political movement means mainly going towards Eretz Israel and the movement became largely active largely as a response to rampant antisemitism in Europe during the 19th century. The Holocaust accelerated the Migration towards Israel arriving from the Diaspora.
50. To nr 44
Alexander   (10.14.06)
Jay Jay, let's get something straight: you are by no means an "expert"on Israel so if you want some proper education in fundamental facts let me know. Jews and Arabs are to separate ethnic peoples with separate cultures, separate ideals, separate religions, separate alphabets, separate languages, separate origins, separate history and separate territories. The Jewish/Israeli/Israelite/Hebrew civilization was established approximately 2000 BC - long before the European culture climbed down from the tree tops. The Arab civilization was established - according to historical facts - approximately in the 7th century AD 1500-2000 km southeast of the land of Israel. The Arabs are very heterogenous as they are a mixture of the original Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula and Turks, Greeks, Persians/Iranians and Africans. You can find blond Arabs in Iraq and black Arabs in let say Egypt and Sudan. Arabs are by no means a "race". The Jews are not a race but an ethnic group just like the French, the Germans, the Irish, the English, the Italians, the Japanese, the Scotchmen etc etc. But despite the fact that the Jewish people was dispersed all over the planet for 2000 years, we have kept our specific ethnic origin. We are by no means related to the Arabs. What sets us apart from the rest of the world is that we are an ethnic group with a distinct and separate religion. What counts is the blood the flows in your veins - your ethnicity. If you are religious or not doesn't really matter. Most Jews/Israelis are secular and they still consider themselves to be Jewish/Israeli. During the pogroms and the Spanish inquisition and WW2, Jews were persecuted because they were regarded as an "alien undesirable nation" among the Europeans and it didn't do them much good to convert to Christianity because it was the ethnicity that bothered European anti-Semites. Before the Diaspora started, the Jewish/Israeli identity was always about culture, nationality and ethnicity, but as the biblical Israel fell under the Roman yoke (135 AD I believe), the Sages and the rabbis tried to find an alternative to the national home of Israel. The religion became gradually more important then a national home and many Jews forgot themselves about their NATIONAL, CULTURAL AND ETHNICAL ORIGIN. There are today many American Jews that seriously believe that Judaism is just a religion. Many American Jews, and yes indeed, many Jews troughout the history of the Diaspora, forgot about their origin and became messengers that forgot the message. The REESTABLISHMENT of the State of Israel in the Land of Israel - Eretz Israel, is not about a religious or divine promise or fulfilment - it's about the reestablishment of the national home or national state of the ancient 4000 year old Jewish/Israeli/Israelite/Hebrew civilization where Jewish/Israeli men women and children can live as free, proud and strong people and individuals in their ancestral land of Israel. The reestablishment of Israel was and still is a Zionist goal as Zionism is the national liberation movement for the Jewish people and therefore Jewish and Israeli as well. If you are anti-Israeli it means that you are anti-Jewish, anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist as these terms aims at the one and the same thing: hatred of Jews. "Anti-Semitism" was an euphemistic circumlocution for "Jew hatred" - a term that was thought to give a more "scientific" and more "civilized" description of anti-Jewish feelings. The "inventor" was Wilhem Marr in 19th century Europe.
51. Snoopy got a dog house dropped on his head 37#
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (10.14.06)
Shit happens during wars! The Iraqis didn't have a problem blasting an Exocet missile through the USS Stark either. Shit happens. It probably didn't help that it was a spy ship. Whether it was intentional---who knows.
52. #15
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (10.15.06)
I don't know what scumbag is in Hebrew, but I can go up the street and ask the rabbi at Temple Kol Emeth. In the meantime, I just call him a phucktard.
53. "The Jews are not blameless" - Mel Gibson
John ,   USA   (10.15.06)
Even if defending Israel against kidnappings and Hezbollah missile attacks is "blameworthy" according to Mel Gibson, it can't be blamed on someone's ethnicity! What a racist idiot! Mel Gibson grew up with a racist Nazi-supporting father, and obviously the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
54. MEL GIBSON?
myron ,   usa   (10.15.06)
As an Ametican Jew, I really don't give a c*** what MG thinks, says , does not think or does not say. In the final analysis, he is a nobody, a nothing. Now, can we please move on to real news? Thank you very much
55. But....
Emily ,   Calif   (10.15.06)
I don't care for Mel and never have been a fan. I think his excuses are just that: excuses. When someone is drunk, they say what they really think and not something they've never thought of before. Clearly the guy has some anti-smitic feelings he's not owning up to (perhaps not even to himself.) However, I think it's very heartless to poke fun at his drinking problem. Clearly it has control of his life, at least a good part of the time, and that's very regrettable for him and his family. I also can't hold against him anything his father said. Mel should be judged on his own merits (or lack thereof.)
56. to#37-Chris- uss liberty
micah ,   judah   (10.15.06)
If the shmucks on that ship had not been transmitting all of Israels real time battle info from that ship to the eGiptions they would not have been bombed. They should have sunk it!!. And cris says; Oh I didn't know that? Now you do.
57. #15 & #52
(10.15.06)
scumbag in hebrew free translation would be CHELA (pronounced chel-a' in sequence) as Scum would. here are some extra pearls: idyot = idiot bigot = kanai fucking wanker = me'onen mizdayen mel gibson = kol ha'nal (aka all of the above) he kinda' always looked .. israeli to me ... maybe i shouldn't tell him that ... he might have a stroke ( = shavatz)
58. madmax
joe s ,   jerusalem israel   (10.15.06)
excuse me while i chuck up !!!!!racist sob plain&simple
59. to 10
pilpelet   (10.15.06)
your correct even a drunken bum like mel gibson has the right to speek his mind and what he feels is right . but you are complaning that i or other jews have the right to react dissagree or state my feeling to-wards his oppenion. i (belive it or not) have the same demacratic rights as he dose i am sorry you dissagree but lets agree to dissagree shlom, masalam
60. jealousy
American ,   USA   (10.16.06)
are all you jews jealous of his good looks and sucess ? so what if he doesnt like jews- most of you dont like arabs-and your comments towards arabs are far WORSE then mels toward jews. whats ggod for the goose is good for the gander.
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