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Arab youths surprised to recieve recruitment orders
Roee Nahmias
Published: 18.10.06, 22:34
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1. I am DELIGHTED with this marvelous news!!!!!
Keren ,   Sao Paulo   (10.18.06)
If they do not accept,LEAVE ISRAEL NOW !!!!!!! ALL arabs living in Israel MUST be drafted!
2. hi...
mot. ,   brussels   (10.18.06)
they are citizens of israel..and they have to serve there country..way not. otherwise they have to emigrate to another country
3. Whatever!
Ron ,   Los Angeles   (10.18.06)
I know Muslims here in the USA that have served in the United States Military..... MY A** it's a religious thing. I feel that if you live in democratic country and your asked to serve, you need to serve..... No and's, If's, or But's. GO SERVE YOUR COUNTRY!
4. Your Live in ISRAEL - DO ARMY!!
SO WHAT?   (10.18.06)
YOU DONT WANT LIVE in ISRAEL DONT DO ARMY GO TO GAZA YOU MANYEK
5. I will Happily serve
Rami ,   Nazareth, Israel   (10.18.06)
I'm an Israeli Arab and will happily serve MY country. On the other hand MY country should be prepared to give me equal rights and eliminate racism against me in every walk of life. Including the right to buy land from a Jew, live anywhere I wish in MY country. I expect MY country to pass anti discrimination laws and punish to the full extent of the law any racist Jew who discriminates against me.
6. rami agree with you wholeheartedly
I wish we cud all ,   live in peace   (10.18.06)
if you serve in the army to protect our country which we both call home..i dont see why you should not receive the same rights and privileges as everyone else. As a jew, I am extremely peeved by the fact that we treat people like second class citizens and then we are surprised when you hate us. Israel sux when it comes to bureacracy we all suffer the same outcome..but as to your being able to purchase property then you should be able to do so, if you serve and defend your country that is how it should be.
7. To those shouting: do it or leave
Khalid ,   The Netherlands   (10.18.06)
I fully agree with Rami. Israel should first dismantle its apartheid system before asking its arab citizens to do their obligations as citizens of a "democratic statyes". And by the way what about the 13 arabs murdered by Israeli police several several years ago during a peaceful demostration? No one has been brought to justice yet? Right? Where is your democracy then? I hope I can get an answer from those shouting that the arabs should either do their obligations towards a state (which by the way feels free to kill them with impunity) or leave. Who has to leave here according to international law, the native inhabitants of the country or those who come from Russia, Poland, Romania, .... claining that they had a kingdom here 2500 years ago. Do you have a proof (that can stand in an international court of law) that such a kingdom existed. I would rather say bring such proof as soon as possiuble or gho back to Russia, Poland, Romania, ...
8. #5
Ails ,   Rehovot, Israel   (10.18.06)
As a european non-jew living in Israel, I agree with you that Israel still has some racial discriminations to get to grips with - but who can blame her! They do not discriminate against Israeli-Arabs only, but against ALL people from all other religions - yet this is the only way that the Jewish people can make sure that there will not be another Holocaust. I don't see any Arab countries offering Israeli-Arabs anything better and you live here, under the protection of the Israeli Army - the children of your neighbours. It is only fair that ALL Israeli citizens, regardless of their religion, serve in the army. Perhaps that way, we can get to equality with our host - the JEWISH State - by showing her our support and thanks for her protection.
9. To be treated as Equal, you need to act Equal
Ryan ,   Calgary, Canada   (10.19.06)
When your country calls, you answer, that is the bottom line, if not, don't live there. It is obvious that if treatment isn't fair, and equal, and everyone doesn't shoulder the responsibilities then there will be racism. If Arabs don't serve and Jews do, that will create a feeling of Arabs being lesser citizens. And religion is not an excuse, killing your own is not an excuse, cause your own should be Israeli's all alike. In Canada Indians don't pay taxes, and it creates a genual perception of them being freeloaders and banes of society. They are looked down upon. To ask to be treated equal requires a share of responsibility, if you want all the perks but none of the work, you are asking for descrimination and racial tension then. Common Sense to most. But as soon worldwide Islamists lack common sense.
10. Rami -- Well Said
Ryan ,   Calgary, Canada   (10.19.06)
That is very true, the Canadian army is made up of all cultures and ethnicities, but when we go to war, we are one team, one family, we are our own. I agree with you 100% that you should be treated equal, the only question now would be , do you enlist before you get your rights, or do you get your rights first. Boths sides are right, why enlist, if you don't get the equal treatment, and there side, why give you the equal treatment if you don't shoulder the equal responsibility. Someone needs to be the bigger man and make the first move, for the better of mankind.
11. Yeah like I want Arabs protecting me from other Arabs
(10.19.06)
Right, like they looove living in a country which calls itself the Jewish state, which has a Jewish anthem, which only gives Jews the right to return. Do Israeli Arabs cheer on israeli independence day or during Jerusalem day? If they do, they are traitors.
12. MOSLEMS IN ISRAEL HAVE NO ALLIEGANCE TO ISRAEL
Realist ,   Israel   (10.19.06)
Ask them where they rather be, in a Jewish state or a Arab state. Ask them do they enjoy "occupation" (lol) or that we control Jerusalem. You will not find one Arab that agrees with those notions.
13. Ails # 8
Keren ,   Sao Paulo   (10.19.06)
I don't live in Israel yet(only from the next week-yes!),but I thank you very much for your beautifull and just talkback.
14. #7 -- One sided thought by a dimwitted individual
Ryan ,   Calgary, Canada   (10.19.06)
Ever think that maybe if the Israeli Arabs shouldered the same responsibility that the apartheid system wouldn't exist. Don't ask for special treatment and an equal system will be applied. Your one sided thought is atrocious and racist. You automatically take one side over the other, and spew racist crap standing on one side only, but you only sound more prejudiced then the system involved, which at leasts exempts them from service but sacrifices liberties for there lack of responsibility. You need to take a step back and think before you speak. Any warmonging retard can say, join or leave, or give me rights and I'll join, but you gotta think about the issue in whole, and your not doing that your just picking sides, that mentality gets you know where in life and is a prelude to violence
15. If they are not prepared to serve
Arie ,   Afula   (10.19.06)
Then let them leave. There are many service operations that can utilize them. there is NO excuse for not protecting their country. OH WAIT ---- Their country is not israel so let's finish swapping the 'triangle' for the settlements and make EVERYONE happy!
16. khalid; You should go back to Saudi Arabia.
Daisy ,   USA   (10.19.06)
Jews are native to Israel and there is overwhelming proof. What are you doing occupying Dutch land?
17. Why isn't terrorist Bishara in prison?
Daisy ,   USA   (10.19.06)
Throw his ass in jail or deport him now!
18. No draft, no welfare.
Francois ,   Montreal, Canada   (10.19.06)
19. #s 1 + 5:
Michael Steiner   (10.19.06)
#1: would you as enthusiastically be shouting what you are if the object were the kharedi leeches? Highly doubt it. #5: thanks for a coolheaded post. I also hope the treatment of Israeli Arabs improves rapidly and all discrimination is eliminated. Best of luck to you, sadiqi.
20. # 19
Keren ,   Sao Paulo   (10.19.06)
You are right:I wouldn't. My comment related to Haredim would be different.
21. To #10
Francois ,   Montreal, Canada   (10.19.06)
The point is that Israeli Arabs are not willing to be true Israeli citizens. They agree to receive welfare but they refuse to deserve it. Moreover, these so-called discriminations are part of the victimist Arab mindset. For example, Arabs claim that their children have poor results at school because they are discrimated and don't receive enough money for their schools. However, according to statistics, Arab Christian children are as succesful as Jewish children. Muslim Arabs are immature, if they don't work, nobody will work for them.
22. Why don't Arabs do military service?
(10.19.06)
23. #22 Ask Israeli Arabs, who they have alliegance to
(10.19.06)
Jews or to Arabs, Israel or to Arabia? No Jew would want their lives protected by non Jews, by Arabs who support the enemy, who are the enemy.
24. Haredim
Alex ,   LA, USA   (10.19.06)
Haredim who are against the State of Israel, like most Arabs in Israel, do not vote and do not accept money or any services from the State of Israel. Arabs take money, vote, and use all the services BUT do not serve. As a first step, they should leave Knesset and not accept any money from the State of Israel.
25. CITIZENSHP is the determiner in US, not race/religion
(10.19.06)
26. There are various ways to serve the country
O ,   USA   (10.19.06)
Army is only one of them. Arab should be recruited to volunteer in hospital, police etc. Even in their own communities. But serving in a Jewish community will dogood to the Israeli society
27. #24 Yeah, thats how the Shas is very powerful
(10.19.06)
since they dont work and dont vote. The Shas schools are longer and are the produce better students, students who respect their teachers and their parents. The Shas schools include secular studies, and are well learned in math. It would do good to research about their schools. In regards to anti-voting/anti-welfare Jews, they are the NK which is such a small minority, they only exist for the camera and the media.
28. To all
Oleg ,   Milwaukee, USA   (10.19.06)
Guys what are you talking about? Lets make it clear. Suppose Arabs will be drafted and they got training and military equipment; in case of a conflict with neghbouring countries will the fight? Is there a chance that they will turn their weapons agains their Jewish comarades? If there is even a slight chance -- then who needs this? If there still no trust between Jews and Arabs how in the whole world they can serve together?
29. Military service for ALL.
Morris ,   Binghamton, NY, USA   (10.19.06)
Enough of the bickering about who deserves to serve and who doesn't. EVERYONE, of ANY BACKGROUND in the state of Israel must serve. It doesn't matter who you are. It will be a difficult change to accept at first, but give it time, and I GUARANTEE it will prove to be the great social equalizer everyone's been looking for.
30. #28 Baruch Hashem you live in Binghamton
Sashs ,   Tel Aviv   (10.19.06)
Keep your Chabadnik ladida peace on earth by doing good deeds, that Israel in in America, yeah that will keep you safe. That is why you are in America and I am in Israel.
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