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US: Israel discriminating against Arab-Americans
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Published: 20.10.06, 10:52
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31. American citizenship does not give anybody carte blanche....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (10.20.06)
to violate Israel's security measures. Sorry. Stand in line until your bretheren stop blowing themselves up inside Israel.
32. Condi Hasn't Got A Clue. She Is Very Dangerous For Israel
Adina Kutnicki ,   US   (10.20.06)
Condi Rice has been trumpeting her mentor Brent Scrowcroft's Arabist sentiments at a very shrill level recently. She knows full well that most of these 'Americans' are totally in sync with the terror tactics of their brethren. In fact, the economic assistance they give most assuredly winds up in the hands of 'martyrs'. Who is she kidding? If the US can't control Dearbonistan, why import them within spitting distance of Jewish communities? It has become increasing clear that Condi has chosen sides in this conflict. Her speech last week at a PA dinner in Virginia was tantamount to support for PA 'resistance'. She completely outdid herself and all precedent by squawking that the greatest ! legacy to America will be the establishment of a PA (terror) State. Let us not forget that it was Condi who brokered the arm twisting deal of relinquishing the Philadelphi corridor. As a result Gaza is awash with weapons akin to Hizbullah. This is coming from a woman who is supposed to be fighting a war on 'terror'. Therefore, according to Condi's logic, one man's terrorist is really another man's freedom fighter. Too bad Condi didn't experience first hand the trauma of what it is like to live next door to these 'resistance' fighters!
33. RABID RACISTS
UNCLE SAM ,   PALESTINE, TEXAS   (10.20.06)
HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT ANTI-SEMITISM WHILE ESPOUSING SUCH HATE, YOU WILL CERTAINLY DRIVE ANY REMAINING PALI MODERATES INTO THE ARMS OF HAMAS WITH SUCH VILE RACIST STATEMENTS
34. to 21. "Arab-Americans" Richard
Hazouz de Baas ,   Ramat Gan, Israel   (10.20.06)
Yes Dick and the Indians are the true Americans.
35. OH MY G-OD
American ,   USA   (10.20.06)
You people are absolutely insane on this board- screeching like a broken record that the USA is anti-semtic- DID you know the USA WELFARES israel?? that is why it has to LISTEN to the USA- the day you stop leeching off of the USA with Aid and military- then you can screech alll you want-= and for your interest- we here in the USA give equal rights to ALL- whether jew, or arab, so all you jew racists that hate Arabs- so long as you are mooching off the USA- you had better shut up or we will abandon you!!
36. Noam from Boca do you mean we should
Mike ,   Israel   (10.20.06)
Treat them the same way you Americans treat Arabs traveling from london or any other part of the world. Just becase they have US papers does not mean they are angels it only means the bribed the INS Noam look at your own shit before looking at this end.
37. John USA no onwe is crying anit-semitisim
Mike ,   Israel   (10.20.06)
But its funny when you Americans find fault with other countrys for the same things you Americans do and worst. How does the INS treat anyone that does not have white skin, blue or green eyes, and short light hair? Good luck getting into your toilet of a country if your name is Abu, Egal, Hamara, etc get the picture moron
38. Poor Israel
Tipton ,   NYC,USA   (10.20.06)
Billions of US tax dollars and THEN it has to use racial profiling of US citizens...poor Israel. We force them to do bad things.
39. as long as they have american passports they should
Steve ,   North Carolina   (10.20.06)
be treated as americans !!!!
40. #12 US government should cut all aid to israel
steve ,   US   (10.20.06)
and then lets see what idiots full of hatred like you will say !!!!
41. #22 Yes America is ur master. as long as we give u billions
steve ,   US   (10.20.06)
of dollars of aid each year we will remain as your masters
42. Ignorant hicks
George W ,   Chicago IL   (10.20.06)
1. All of you people crying about "why doesn't the US government say anything about anti-Semitism?" don't pay any attention to anything the US government does. A two minute Google search, or a search on the state department website, or plenty of other places, will uncover thousands of condemnations of everything you are asking about. You obviously know how to turn on a computer, but maybe you need a bit more internet practice. 2. Nobody is saying you have to let terrorists through your airport. The people being harassed are NOT TERRORISTS. If they were they wouldn't have been allowed on the airplane back in America. Are you people really so stupid that you think that literally every single Arab is a terrorist? You're just embarassing yourself. 3. You are so eager to tell us off, but I don't hear any of you refusing our billions of dollars in free money every year. Elad (#3) wants us to "keep our terrorists in our own land"-- go to Hell, Elad. How about we keep our money in our own land? The second we threaten to do that, you guys will shut up quick and start taking orders.
43. All my Palestinian neighbor did was tell
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (10.20.06)
me how much he hated the Israelis and Jews. So he goes to Israel and has a problem? A guy with a big white KKK suit walks into Harlem---the blacks start a riot and kill him. Go f*cking figure? The State Department never protects us from Palestinian college professors, that teach hate the Jew ,at our universities! When will the State Department protect us from the rascist ,hate the Jew rhetoric, at most American College Campuses? The Muslims are the ones pushing it with the help of the Liberals.
44. steve US has an excuse---he is collecting a
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (10.20.06)
disability check from the government and feels he has been short changed because money was sent to Israel. Everyone get out the collection plate and we'll send him some cash to pay his electric bill! Wait till he punches in "debt to the penny," on Yahoo---and finds out he owes the Chinese and Japanese 8.5 Trillion Dollars that the government borrowed. You see Steve---China really payed for Israel's arms. Our government borrowed the money. And as Donald Trumps new book suggests---get ready for hyperinflation. The money presses are running overtime as we speak.
45. how would japanese "tourists" have been treated in USA '42?
dante ,   uk   (10.20.06)
the grey mice in the state dept. will believe anything and say anything about the moderation of the of notional arab moderate. these bureaucrats avoid contact with the real world as much as possible; their fantasies about arab moderation survive much better in the moist atmosphere of foggy bottom or the academic swamps from which they came and to which they often return. THE IDIOCY OF THIS LATEST CRITICISM OF ISRAEL CAN BE APPRECIATED BY CONSIDERATION OF THE "WELCOME" THAT WOULD HAV E BEEN EXTENDED TO JAPANESE TOURISTS TO 1942 AMERICA. though there are some decent "palestinians," the overwhelming majority of them are recalcitrant enemies of Israel and the west who, under the best of circumstances, do not believe in anything more than TEMPORARY peaceful coexistence. THEY SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO TRAVEL TO ISRAEL AT ALL.
46. #41 Why give Billions to Egypt
Jew ,   Israel   (10.20.06)
At least we produce technology If you dont want to supply us with money, DONT, we rather you dont so our leaders wont be such a push over. CUT IT PLEASE.
47. George W
Mike ,   U.S.   (10.20.06)
George, your comments are on point. I think some sort of deep mental illness has taken root to Israeli's and or folks that support Israel. Somehow they have chosen to believe that they do nothing wrong and that it is everyone else's fault. The comments here are so biased and filled with hate. This comes from the deep down notion in the psyche that nobody likes them or their behavior so they spew this type of garbage. The majority of the planet is sick and tired of the Israel mess and the behaviour of Israel towards others. They feel this on many levels and it causes them to try and rationlize and then lash out. I really do not see them getting out of this pattern which has gone on for way to long. The creation of Israel yet again has been a disaster for this planet.... that really can't be argued. So much blood shed and hatred has come from that. One side is more powerful, has more money and has killed more folks that the other sides. We know which side that is. Yet, they show themselves as the victim while also being the agressor. I view this as a mental illness that has taken root. I really do not see it changing any time soon. Maybe a final huge confrontation will do the trick. But, that is too bad for humanity....
48. #42 & 47 Way to go
Ron ,   Los Angeles   (10.20.06)
The both of you hit it on the nose... All this hate here will never allow for a peaceful resolution. As an American myself, I come from Palestinian decent and I was born in Jerusalem to a Christian family. SO Linda #6 "I have a right to be there as much as anyone else” Israel preaches "WE ARE A FREE AND DOMECROTIC SOCIETY” well it sure sounds to me like they’re not acting like it. And by the way, as soon as my country "AMERICA" stops giving you guy’s aid, you'll be on your hands and knees begging us to LOVE US... Billions and Billions of my American dollars are going to you your people and in return all I want is to see the country I was born in without hassle. By the way, the last time I looked in the mirror. I look more American than I ever do Arab or Jewish…yes I get mistaken for a Jew too……. If it wasn’t for my last name, I’ll have no issues ever when landing at Ben Gurion.
49. Zogby; The Arabs ancestoral homeland is in Saudi Arabia.
Palesitniansareamyth ,   USA   (10.20.06)
50. #44 why dont u go back to ur eskimo tent and shut up !!!
steve ,   US   (10.20.06)
or just emigrate to israel .. i wonder what a jew is doing in alaska and not in jerusalem. Am not being racist or anything but when u hear fantaic jews like #12 attacking US for a simple request .. they get on my nerve cause of how rude they are ! they dont appreciate the billions of dollars that we have been sending them over the last 50 years ... without the US israel would have been crushed like a bug
51. The US is pro-Israeli in general terms
Alexander ,   Israel   (10.20.06)
Approximately 70% of the Americans are deeply pro-Jewish and pro-Israeli but the CIA, State Department, the powerful oil companies and the political elite of Washington D.C. tend to be anti-Jewish or anti-Israeli as those people are either left wing extremists or ruthless oil millionaires sucking up to Arab oil sheiks or just ruthless careerists - like Rice.
52. Alexander
American ,   USA   (10.21.06)
I doubt it- More and more USA citizens want OUT of Iraq= about 70 percent --and I guess that means screw Israel in the process- by proxy- so dont get your hopes up-- USA is sick of you.
53. Uh, 37
American ,   USA   (10.21.06)
I ,as an American critisize my own government FREELY- and I ADMIT when we are wrong- i do not like our current govt. and i say so. and we have PLENTY of muslims, arabs, abduls and Egals etc. in the USA- living happily !! co existing !! making American $$$$. !! so you probably HATE to admit this because you have such a deep hate for Arabs- but I guess thats the difference between a jew israeli and an American.lolol
54. 50"Steve"
(10.21.06)
Come off your high horses! Who do you think you are? slavery is over. There are no master and slaves any longer. We love America and Americans but your attitude is not becoming of an American.
55. To 52
Alexander ,   Israel   (10.21.06)
And here we have an anti-Semitic American expressing hatred for Jews because Jews are Jews. Its obvious that you hate us - not because of what we do but becauce of who we are. To tell you the truth - I don't care. And if you hate us so much, why do you type your crap in here in an an ISRAELI newspaper? And how come that the vast majority of the Americans of all creeds and cultures always stand on Israel's side? We are talking about the Christian Right, Jewish Americans, most Congressmen and Senators(most of them are not even remotely Jewish) are pro-Jewish and pro-Israeli and even the man on the street. Over 90% of the Americans consider Israel to be an essential military ally. Most Americans choose to stay out of the conflict but the vast majority of those who do care, stands with Israel. You'll get different answers depending on what you are asking and to whom. More than 70% of the Americans are pro-Jewish. However approximately 60% of the Americans (or more) believe Israel is right in this conflict. This is a remarkably high number because most Americans don't seem to care anything at all about what's going on in the rest of the world. Americans are more knowledgeable of what's going on in Israel compared to what's going on in Europe. Approximately 70% of the Americans supported the war on Iraq three years ago and the reason more and more Americans want out of Iraq is because of the terrible death toll of the American soldiers. Most Americans admit that it was moral to overthrow Saddam Hussein. USA was pro-Israeli before during and after the war. USA cannot allow itself to be sick of Israel because the cellphone was invented in Israel and Israel developed much of the hardware and software and components in "American computers" and outside Silicon Valley Israel is the single and most important high tech center of the world. IBM has established departments in only one country outside the US and that's Israel. The Israeli MOSSAD provided the US with tons of information during the Cold War and no country in the world has helped the US to sigh a high degree. American fighter pilots go to Israel to receive a proper education. Israel develops technology to helpt the US to combat the desert. Israel sent assistance to the US when New Orleans was flooded. Sometimes Israel can get sick of the USA. Stop putting your economic pressure on us, stop telling us what to do in our own land.
56. To Steve and George W
Alexander ,   Israel   (10.21.06)
Considering the fact that Israel's GDP corresponds to approximately $ 130 billion US and the US "aid" covers approximately 3 billion, it is very difficult to maintain that Israel is a "social welfare case". And guess what: the US "aid" is used for FINANCING the American arms industry. Israel is not allowed to use the money else than purchasing American weapons. For this amount of money you can perhaps buy one or two fighters. The US gave the Marshall Help to Europe and to Japan, assisting them with billions and billions of dollars and not demanding a single cent back. USA has never done anything like that for Israel and Israel is always expected to pay everything back - which it does. Israel has also decided to end this "aid" within 2 or 3 years. Can you mention any other country in this world surrounded and besieged by millions of enemies, trying to defend itself against them, absorbing millions of new immigrants, fighting the desert, creating new jobs, upholding a fully functioning society and the same time spends billions of dollars to finance a strong army - the only guarantee for its survival? The answer is you can't because Israel is unique. Talking about social welfare cases, the American money machine ran out of money and loaned billionsof dollars from Europe, Russia, China and Japan to finance the evacuation of New Orleans. We are not talking about the survival of the US - we are talking about ONE city. You didn't have the money. Why? Before the obsession of American power gets to your heads you should first get the facts straight. And no- Israel doesn't take order from the US or anybody else. We are a sovereign nation thanks to our hard work and ambition. I couldn't care less if us refusing talking orders from you "pisses you off ". The word sovereign means independent. All foreign powers will be driven off from Israel - even the US. Eretz Israel Shelanu Ve Am Israel Chai!
57. Hey Mike #37
John ,   USA   (10.21.06)
We don't discriminate against people who don't have "white skin, blue or green eyes, and short light hair" We have large immigrant populations from all continents of the world. Our Muslim population will soon outnumber our Jewish population. Also getting personal and insulting doesn't help your position, it only confirms how you are morally bankrupt and narrow minded. Please answer the question I put forth: Why is questioning Israeli policy anti semitisim? Just look at the other posts to see what I mean.
58. You guys better get smart
John ,   USA   (10.21.06)
You know your only friend in the world is the US. American support for Israel is illogical, if not downright wrong. Without the US, you would stand alone. The UN would chew you up. Good luck with your warped little world if you offend the US into abandoning you.
59. Yes, Israel is a western democracy
Alexander ,   Israel   (10.21.06)
Zionism is the only ideology that transported blacks out of Africa - not to enslave them but to liberate them. Blacks were transported to America to be enslaved, massacred, discriminated and raped. There were racial clashes in America as recently as in the 1960:s, 1970:s and 1980:s. Furthermore, ALL religions in Israel are allowed - including Islam - and Hebrew is the first official language whereas Arabic is the second official language for the Arab minority. Arab political parties are allowed to sit in the Knesset spewing anti-Jewish crap and Arab politicians in Israel are also allowed to visit Hamas which intends to destroy Israel. Furthermore, Israel has contributed considerably to the well being of many poor states in Africa and Asia - educating them and providing them with the means to fight poverty, desert, swamps and so on. Israel has sent medical teams all over the world to help people in need - either from wars or disasters. Israel is one of the few democratic nations in the world and furthermore the only democracy in the Middle East where you don't have to fear for your life when you have opposite opinions and the only country in the Middle East where your citizenship rights and human rights are defended and protected and the only country in the Middle East where gays' rights are guaranteed and protected.Gays are allowed to serve in the Israeli army but not in the US Army. Furthermore, Israeli newspapers, schools and universities do not preach hatred and intolerance as the Arabs do on a daily basis in all Arab states. Jews/Israelis have lived in Israel for 4000 years whereas the Arabs have lived in Israel between 60-150 years as a result of the Jewish immigration and return to the land in 19th and 20th century when the Jews build industries and agriculture- which also could provide poor Arabs with jobs. So who is a "Palestinian"? An Arab seeking a job in Israel? Or maybe an Arab seeking to rewrite history, to contort facts and to steal 3000 year old Jewish land? Israel is the only legal, historical and moral OWNER of the land of Israel and the only way that you can be the true owner of a strip of land is to establish a state in the land. That's exactly what the Jews did 1300 BC and that's exactly what the Arabs DID NOT DO for the past 1400 years of their Arab existence. It was the Jews that turned Israel into a flourishing, affluent, rich, highly developed post industrial high tech society with a robust agriculture, well developed industry and strong economy. Mark Twain and many others travelled through the land of Israel during the 19th century and stated that they could hardly see a living soul, hardly any cities but an abundance of deserts, malaria and swamps. I guess that's how Arabs, Turks, Crusaders, Romans and others expressed their "love" for the land? PLO was founded to destroy Israel with the rewriting of history, terrorism, demographic warfare and international pressure to force Israel to withdraw from Samaria, Judea and the Gaza Strip in order to make Israel more vulnerable to future attacks.
60. You anti-Semites use dual principles
Alexander ,   Israel   (10.21.06)
If we regard all sovereign states as individuals with equal rigts in the eyes of the law it has to mean that their existence, survival, security, right of self-defence, sovereignity, control of territory, air space and coasts and their right to preserve and uphold the existence of their culture and civilization must be equal without any exceptions. Then it has to mean that you are not allowed to initiate any wars of aggression, you are not allowed to terrorize a single state, you are not allowed to steal the property and the real estate of a single country, you are not allowed to rewrite history so that it would seem that the host nation is a "stranger" in its ancestral land, you are not allowed to enter, cross, attack or violate the nation's territory, because if you would do that it means that you do not respect the nations right of possession to its land and its sovereignity. In our world there are two different states - federal republics and nation-states. The difference between federal republics and nation-states is that federal rebublic have no ethnic origin whereas a nation-state was developed by, created by, established by, is controlled by, ruled by, governed by, dominated by, inhabited by and defined by a specific ethnic group. Israel,Greece, Turkey, Japan, Italy, Germany, France, Spain, Russia, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Poland, Ukraine, Austria, Holland and many other lands are NATION-STATES. The only way for a nation-state and its people to survive is to be in majority in its own land. Therefore the Greeks should be in majority in Greece, the Germans should be in majority in Germany and the Israelis/Jews should be in majority in Israel - IF WE USE THE SAME PRINCIPLES. And yes no doubt, ethnic minorities should have and must have democratic, human and citizen rights. The minority has rights - true - and so does the MAJORITY in a nation-state. Napoleon said that ethnic and cultural minorities should have democratic rights and citizen rights but NO NATIONAL RIGHTS WHAT SO EVER. It means that Turks are allowed to be free in Germany but are not allowed to establish a second Turkey in Germany on the expense of the German culture. Turkic demographic warfare, terrorism and rewriting of history is out of the question. The same thing goes with the Arabs in Israel. They have their democratic, human and citizen rights guaranteed by law unlike the laws of the Arab states. But the Arabs of Israel and the so called "Palestinians" in Samaria, Judea and Gaza Strip have NO RIGHT to claim the right to Israel's property which corresponds to 0,2% of the Middle East. Therefore it is racist and unfair if an Arab and/or a so called "Palestinian" claims that he/she has the equal right to Israel which is not true as Israel is the legal, moral and historical owner of the land of Israel. Jews have lived longer in North Africa and the Middle East than the Arabs themselves. Does it mean that the Jews have an equal right to the entire Arab world if the Jewish people in a most hypothetical case would try to take over the Arab world through demographic warfare? Of course not, because we would violate their sovereignity. When "Palestinians" and Arabs are whining about "discrimination" and "undemocratic behaviour" they are using it as an excuse to violate Israel's sovereignity and to take over the land through demographic warfare. Their definition of "democracy" is when Israel commits suicide and the Jewish people ceases to exist. Instead of saying it openly they say that implicitly and in hidden words. 1.)Discrimination 2.)Demonization 3.)Deslegitimization 4.)Dispersion of false accusation and 5.)Double standards characterizes ALL anti-Semites - including the morons debating in here.
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