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Outrage in J’lem: Gay parade set for day marking Crystal Night
Roee Mendel
Published: 22.10.06, 08:27
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31. #19 & #24
Intedi Nensak ,   Bräkne-Hoby, Sweden   (10.22.06)
#19 Who asked for YOUR opinion? This is a talkback commentating board, idiot. Just that it exists mean that they're asking for our opinions. I see you possess that "amazing norwegian intellect". #24 It's not a foolish statement everybody knows this is the case. Denying it is exactly the same as when ahmedinejad denies the mass slaughter of jews. read a book you iq-less hick.
32. Gay hypocrisy
Baruch ,   Boston, USA   (10.22.06)
What is with the gays that they have to be in everyone's face, offending all sane and normal people with their abnormal behavior. Why are they gay? I don't know. It's not a trait, like skin color or height, but a behavior. A society that accepts this rather than pressing for people not to do it is destined for failure. Israel may turn out to be an unfortunate failure. God gave us this land after 2000 years to rebuild His kingdom, and we are showing Him that we aren't worthy of it. Pity.
33. Since when are Homosexuals a race
michael ,   Israel   (10.22.06)
34. #12 You must love all Jews
MARK ,   USA   (10.22.06)
You must love your neighbor as yourself. Stop Pretemding to be Ha-Shem. Repent Repent I am very very offended by your comments. I would like an apology. Gays are chosen people too. I am a proud gay Jew.
35. what happened to privacy??
me ,   right here   (10.22.06)
I don't care who people want to have sex with.. do what you want but why do you have to parade?? nobody is arresting you for what you do.Just don't hold your stupid parade just to annoy people- what is the point of that? nobody is arresting you these days,you can have your sex any way you like in your own bedroom as long as you are adults- leave the rest of us out of it!!!
36. RACISM? - what race do gay's qualify as?
Josh   (10.22.06)
Human race? I think someone needs to understand what a race is. Don't know what they can do about the next generation of the "Gay" race. Guess that's what the promotional parade is all about. You know, for the kids.
37. homos made kristalnacht - http://www.guardian.co.uk/intern
homos murdered 6mil   (10.23.06)
Historian says Jew boy killedNazi lover Kate Connolly Wednesday October 31, 2001 The Guardian The assassination of a top German diplomat which triggered Kristallnacht, the organised Nazi pogrom against Jews across Germany, was not politically-motivated, as commonly believed, but the result of a homosexual affair between a Nazi diplomat and a young Jew, according to a leading expert on the Third Reich. Hans-Jürgen Döscher, considered Germany's foremost authority on the events of November 9 1938 following the publication last year of his definitive history, Reichskristallnacht, has gathered scores of documents and eyewitness accounts, including the diaries of the French writer André Gide, to support the theory. On November 7 1938, Herschel Grynszpan, a Jew, walked into the German embassy in Paris and shot Ernst vom Rath, a German diplomat, five times. Vom Rath died two days later. Nazi propagandists condemned the shooting as a terrorist attack to further the cause of the Jewish "world revolution", and the pogrom was launched. The attacks - called Kristallnacht (crystal night), an ironic reference to the broken glass left on the streets - led to the murder of 91 Jews, the arrests of 26,000 others and the destruction of 177 synagogues. Until now, it was widely believed that Grynszpan had intended to shoot the ambassador, Count Johannes Welczek, in protest at the SS's expulsion of his parents to Poland. But according to Professor Döscher, who teaches modern history at Osnabrück University, Grynszpan's actions were a spontaneous expression of anger over the broken promises of his lover, Vom Rath, not a political gesture. Prof Döscher claims that Vom Rath was nicknamed Mrs Ambassador and Notre Dame de Paris as a result of his homosexual antics. He and Grynszpan - a "boy with a beautiful penetrative gaze" - met in Le Boeuf sur le Toit bar, a popular haunt for gay men in the autumn of 1938 and became intimate. Grynszpan, who was in his late teens, had been living illegally in Paris, and Prof Döscher states that 29-year-old Vom Rath agreed to use his influential position to secure official papers for his friend. When Vom Rath went back on his word, Grynszpan reacted by storming into the German embassy on rue de Lille 78, demanding to see him, and opening fire on him with a revolver. A combined report from the German foreign, justice and propaganda ministries in January 1942 declared: "The purpose of the trial should be to clarify to the German people and the world that the international community of Jews is to blame for the outbreak of this war." According to Prof Döscher, when Grynszpan learned of this motivation for the trial in the early 40s, he revealed the real truth to his Nazi captors. Fearing embarrassment and humiliation, they then stripped Vom Rath of his martyrdom and scrapped their plans. Grynszpan was sent to Sachsenhausen concentration camp and then disappeared. He was declared dead in 1960. Prof Döscher gleaned his previously unpublished evidence from court archives, reports from the propaganda ministry, letters, diary extracts, and interviews with diplomats of the time. Most startling are the diaries of Gide, in which the writer expresses his amazement that the scandal failed to gain public attention. Vom Rath, Gide wrote, "had an exceptionally intimate relationship with the little Jew, his murderer". Referring to the fact that Vom Rath was both gay and had an affair with a Jew, Gide later said: "The thought that a such highly-thought of representative of the Third Reich sinned twice according to the laws of his country is rather amusing." But that was not what amazed him most. "How is it that the press failed to bring this scandal into the open?" he asked.
38. Gay March
Ruth P ,   Israel   (10.24.06)
Kol hakavod to Mrs Fenton! Every day of the year is sacred to the Jewish nation and there's no place in our calendar for such a public display of Torah desecration anywhere in the Holy Land.Let them try and parade in a neighbouring Arab state or Vatican City, or better keep their way of life to themselves.
39. 24, 36 and the rest
james bailey ,   Adelaide, Australia   (10.25.06)
Anyone who has lived during World War 2, or studied it, will know that the Nazis killed not only Jews, but also Gays and Gypsies - amonst others. What is sad is that some [36, amongst others] need to realise that the "human race" is our species - not our religion, colour, political beliefs etc. It embrasses all of humanity. If we are [as 36 implies] that gays are not a race, then [and hate to say this] nor are are the Jewish people. For a race implies some physical characteristic that is predominant within a group of people. Eg, you picture a Chinese as not looking like a Zulu. The Jewish people are of such a multitude of complexions [black, yellow, white etc] that implies under 36's implied definition, are not a race. On a side note - why is it that so many of the talkback comments in here are so anti-gay? What have you all got to fear? What are you scared of? Fear breeds hatred which in turn results in bloodshed. If you can not live in peace with each other, and tolerate [if not accept] the differences in your society, then unfortunately, there is no future. If you start discriminating against one section of society [eg gays], who will be the next one? The people with blonde hair? The ones with a darker or fairer complexion? Reminds me of someone from the past. And his name was Hitler.
40. The rest of the story?
PJ ,   Temple, NH   (10.25.06)
To those who would cite the story of "Sodom": Do you approve of Lot's offering his daughters up for rape by the men of Sodom? (The very fact that they would be considered an equal exchange for the protected strangers/angels tells us that this was NOT an issue of homosexuality or sexua orientation.) Do you take the story to mean that in today's worls we should approve of what took place betwen Lot and his daughters in the cave? If you are going to cite one thing in the story as proof of the law or word of G-d, then obviously you must do the same with to all parts of the story.
41. real rest of story
Jan ,   Balto, MD USA   (10.31.06)
And what was the fruit of the relationship of Lot and his daughters? Was it not to produce enemies? Nothing good came out of Sodom. Nothing good will come out of this parade. Woe to you, O Jerusalem. You have forsaken your G-d.....
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