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Tamir: Rabin Memorial Day as important as Holocaust day
Moran Zelikovich
Published: 29.10.06, 08:59
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1. '56 Rabin should live
Ben Temalion ,   Shiloh, MO USA   (10.29.06)
For then he said that those who come to kill you should be expelled. Sometime after that he, this publication and many of you came in line at the death now camp, as if there can be coexistence when the other's exitence is predicated on your destruction.
2. Thank you Rabin!
Muck ,   Buenos Aires, Arg.   (10.29.06)
It's very sad to know that a PM was assasinated, but it's sadder to know than more of 1 thousand of israelis had been assasinated thanks to this PM.
3. Why Isn't Rabin's Real Murderers Behind Bars???
H ,   Jerusalem   (10.29.06)
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=92268 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=92086 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=92079
4. My School Teaches That THE MURDERERS Were Never Apprehended
H ,   Jerusalem   (10.29.06)
because of political reasons.
5. civics programm
cordier   (10.29.06)
civics programm in israel is leftists brain washing which tell young israelis that they have to give their land and their lives to arabs for the sake of an agreement with al qaeda which will give some "peace" to Europe... brief the "brillant and clever" politics done by Rabin the man who have brought to israel arafat and cohorts of terrorists and killers in exchange of european money for some "incorruptible" israelis (the same who want "civics" prorgamms for young israelis...) as Eitan haber, Shimon Pérés, peace now heads, e Olmert, a Sharon, m Katsav and the "peace associations" they lead (how much earn Pérés the president of the peres center for peace financed by 90% by europe ????)... the majority of israelis leaders are disgusting and israelis people must wake up
6. Is this Soviet Russia? Since when must students study.......
Robyn Lion ,   Kibbutz Kfar Blum   (10.29.06)
dead leaders legacies? Students in the United States do not have a Kennedy or Lincoln legacy shoved down their throats. I am beginning to suspect this is yet another tool by the political elites in this country to force their agenda on our youth. That is just shameful.
7. Kahane's murder underrated
Lila ,   Jerusalem   (10.29.06)
Rabbi Meir Kahane loved the Jewish people and wanted to save them from the horrible catastrophe he knew was coming from people like Yuli Tamir. She would turn the heartland of Israel over to the people who democratically elected Hamas into power, continuing the spirla of attacks and murders against the Jews in their own country. Our enemies don't believe in peace, and Rabbi Kahane wanted to throw the enemies of peace out of Israel before it was too late. Where is the memorial day in Israeli schools to mark his murder, Yuli?
8. '56 doesn't count
Ben Temalion ,   Shiloh, MO USA   (10.29.06)
Since he took orders to murder those on the Altalena and destroy much needed defense that may have save Yerushalim . Since he shook hands with the egyptian face of a mythical race that resulted in the death and maiming of thousands of you. Agreements that continue to kill and maime you. Since he was found in a drunken stupor in '73 under a truck. These facts of his acts of death are underrated.
9. murder is underrated
Ben Temalion ,   Shiloh, MO USA   (10.29.06)
one man kills another, maybe? But the dead man killed and maimed those on the Altalena and those through his bribed oslo accorde of death to you. You seem to want Rabin's muder and maiming of your own glorified.
10. Near the end he thought right
Ben Temalion ,   Shiloh, MO USA   (10.29.06)
I remember his wife saying that he, Rabin should never have trusted Arafat. Why would if he think he could trust him in the first place unless he was insane?
11. Memorial DAY not WEEK
Meir ,   Beit Shemesh   (10.29.06)
I think one of the problems regarding remembering Rabin, is that it has been made into a Memorial week. At the beginning, I thought that it was the period between the civil date and the hebrew date, but this year they fall one day apart. Rabin should be remembered but if it is exaggerated over a whole week, it's take away from the event.
12. Reply to # 3
Secular Sabra ,   Israel   (10.29.06)
Ref: http://www.barry-chamish.com/ Interesting how it is the religious Right wing extremists who murdered Rabin that also spread the conspiracy theories . Don't you agree ??? ;)
13. Oslo caused a great tragedy on Israel
Michael Ben Raphael ,   TA Israel   (10.29.06)
I could never agree with the assasination of any prime minister, but with that said, I still support a pardon of Amir. He killed to protect the country from the terrorism we are seeing today. Just like other murderers who have been much more henious are released early, how much more so Amir who at least in his mind was working to protect the country and G-ds will. This may seem an extreme view, but in reality more and more Israelis shall follow it the more it seems Amir was right.
14. COMMUNISM/FACISM/ZIONISM
DAVID ,   GUSH ETZION   (10.29.06)
AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS ALL IN THE SAME LINE,WITH THE SAME GOALS AND INTENTIONS. GLORIFYING THE INDIVIDUAL AND CREATING A FALSE SENSE OFHISTORY. THE THE ARABS CREATED THE CONCEPT OF PALASTINE AND THE SECULAR ZIONISTS CREATED THEIR OWN SYMBOLS AND CONCEPTS. THERE IS NO CONNECTION MADE TO US BEING HERE IN THE LAND THROUGH TORAH,BUT IT STARTS WITH HERZL AND THEIR OWN GLORIFYED SENSE OF HISTORY. SO YULI WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO TEACH OUR CHILDEREN ABOUT THE GREAT LEGACY AND ACHIEVEMENTS LEFT BEHIND FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS BY RABIN. YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS IN THE MEDIA AND OTHER POSITIONS OF CONTROL WILL KEEP ON USING THIS EVENT TO CREATE FALSE ILLUSIONS OF LOSS AND TRAGEDY. MOST OF US KNOW BY NOW HOW CORRUPT AND UNDEMOCRATIC THIS STATE HAS BECOME. MAYBEY CONCERN YOURSELF WITH PAYING DECENT SALARYS TO OUR TEACHERS AND FOCUS ON TEACHING JEWISH VALUES TO OUR CHILDEREN. INSTEAD OF PAYING LIPSERVICE TO YOUR SOCALLED DEMOCRATIC ZIONIST VALUES. ABOUT YOUR COMMENTS OF PUTTING THIS DAY ON THE SAME LEVEL OF THE HOLOCAST DAY, IT DOES NOT EVEN WARRANT A REPLY, BECAUSE IT SHOWS YOUR LACK OF VALUES AND COMMON DECENCY. IT JUST HURTS THAT ALL OUR TAX MONEY IS WASTED ON INCOMPETENT PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF.
15. Tamir: No Word On Rabbi Meir Kahana's Memorial?
H ,   Jerusalem   (10.29.06)
10 Cheshvan (Nov 1). Now, this is something Jewish students must be taught and respected in all schools.
16. Very bad man! Wake up Israel
abe ,   tel aviv   (10.29.06)
This PM and half the israeli population are sleeping and are waiting for a stronger wake up call then the 2nd lebonan war. Wake up israel, Rabin day should be erased from the calander forever.
17. secular sabra
ash ,   gush etzion   (10.29.06)
it is a peverse logic that some use to tarnish a whole community because of one man. does secular sabra blame the whole arab community for the countless murders which have been conducted over the years. what the secular sabra and everyone else should be shocked about is the near cultic status rabin has received since his dead. this is shown in tamir comparing the rabin memorial day to holocaust and independence day. does this not shock anyone that it is compared to a day when we commemorate 6,000,000 dead and the rebirth of our nation. Rabin was man who did a lot for this country but noone can say his death should be remembered on a par with genocide or something we have waited for 2,000 years. people talk about about the cult of religion, well we all have our cults as is amply shown by tamir. enough is enough. there is an important message to be learnt from rabins assassination and we should prevent something like that from ever happening again, but please keep it in its context.
18. Keep political indoctination out of our schools
Ilan ,   Ariel   (10.29.06)
19. Rabin - Not Our Sort Of Jew
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (10.29.06)
Mr. Rabin was not an observant Jew. He did not observe Jewish Law. He was not Sabbath-observant, did not abide by the laws of Kashrus, it is unlikely he ever donned Tefillin, probably did not comply with the Laws of Family Purity, and it is unlikely that he was G-d fearing. I am not sure that he knew how to make a Brocho and recite Krias Shema. Not once did we ever hear the name of G-d never roll off his lips. In short, he was a G-dless Jew who turned his back on Torah and Jewish tradition. He was not a person who religious people respect. Attempts to make him into a "Jewish" hero are to deny the fact that the man was as un-Jewish as a Jew could be. In fact, he was the antithesis of the classical observant Jew. It is for this reason that the secularists want him made into a saint and why the truly religious at heart find him to be unstomachable and an anathema..
20. What do you expect?
Shai ,   Israel   (10.29.06)
Israel releases the murderers of israeli citizens all the time. They release them in prisoner swaps with our enemies, and the Labor party is often strongly supportive of these deals. Is it any wonder that 30% of Israelis don't commiserate with a government that sees the death of citizens as being "cheaper" than the assassination of a Prime Minister? It would be another thing entirely if they spoke out against releasing terrorists - THAT's what would result in giving the assassination of a Prime Minister the "proper weight".
21. #6 and #17
Josh ,   Jerusalem   (10.29.06)
to #6 - What do you know of what is being taught in the US? As a matter of fact, we do study the assassinations of Lincoln, Kennedy and MLK Jr. and it is part of the curriculum just as celebrating the birthday of MLK Jr is a national holiday. It is not shoving a legacy down students throats but showing them the civic responsibilities that come with politics as well as those responsibilities that come with people who believe in the minority opinion. Murder is not a way to solve one's disagreements. Murder is for those who can't express themselves normally similar to using curse words. If Yigal Amir had a thought out, inteligent argument then he should have brought that forward as most people try to do in a democracy. Using a gun like Arabs, or Stalinist Russia is not how we Jews solve our problems. We use our brains to #17 - is Rabin's assassination on the same level as your argument? maybe not numbers wise but in today's day it is very much important. unforutnately Israel has a very violent culture and when we see murder as a way of expressing political opinion then we know we have gone down the wrong path. the media bears most of the responsibility with the violence in mainstream society. bottome line is that murder is wrong regardless of your political views. know one has the right to take another person's life.
22. Maybe the students watched as over a thousand
jason white ,   afula,israel   (10.29.06)
Israelis were killed and thousands maimed due to rabin's signing of the oslo death accords. What does tamir expect the students to do?Sit shiva every year for him? Enough sat shiva for their family and friends killed in terrorist attacks. Let the students learn how their future was put into danger by rabin and peres.Keep politics out of the schools. Or teach the students about the errors of all govts here and how they are more interested in themselves and not in the state.
23. the survey show us a dangerous rift
dovdevan ,   ashdod,israel   (10.29.06)
between israelis , how can 30% of the population could forgive to this murderer !! even if we put the survey in the context of what is happening today , igal amir has open a new era in the relation between jews an era where we could kill one another for political fact or opinion something that never exist in the israel history
24. If Not For The SECULAR SABRAS Israel Would Be A Respected
H ,   Jerusalem   (10.29.06)
Country. The Secular Sabras are a disgrace to Israel. May Rabbi Mayer Kahana be remembered forever.
25. Underated?
Adam Segal ,   Raanana, Israel   (10.29.06)
What the hell did he do that was so special? Where is Kahane Square? Where is Ze'evi's square? Rabin did nothing but set the wheels in motion for the intifada and showed the arabs how stupid and trusting the jews were on arafat's word. Anyone who shakes hands with a terrorist is a disgrace in my opinion.
26. This is personnality worship !! forbidden !!
laurence ,   givatayim   (10.29.06)
I totally agree with you #6 this reminds me the personnality worship of Lenin like in the former soviet union. Some schools have even a frame of Itzak Rabin hung in their entrance hall. Unbelievable!! The leftist are doing a real brainwash among the youth, Kids are obliged to idolaze him which is not acceptable !! Very Scary !!
27. rabin memorial
yalom ,   sderot   (10.29.06)
I feel bad that rabin was murdered no mater who killed him yigal or others but I feel in more bad of how many Israelis were murdered via the oslo architects which includes rabin
28. Reply # 24
Secular Sabra ,   Israel   (10.29.06)
May Rabbi Mayer Kahana's name be forever cursed . It is you and yours that shame us , you that are a disgrace . Violent murderous assassins !! Kach is a terrorist organisation both here and in America .......... does anyone here know how many cold blooded murders they have committed in the name of their God ?? We will drive you out of the West Bank and back to Brooklyn brother.....mark my words.... Rabin's debt has yet to be paid.
29. Pordons
Avraham ,   Netivot   (10.29.06)
If we can pardon arabs with blood on their hands we can shurely pardon Jews as well. The other point is the planners of Rabin's murder are still free & inciting hatred of the brave residents of Yehuda & The Shomron.
30. rabin
dana ,   ny   (10.29.06)
Teaching of his cold bloodded murder of his political opponents in the Altalena maasacre should also be required teaching on his memorial day.
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