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Bikinis are not enough
Zvi Mazel
Published: 29.10.06, 20:42
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1. this country has the hottest babes!
satisfied customer! ,   Gush Dan Area   (10.29.06)
I made aliyah after seeing the amazingly tan, trim and foxy israeli women and i was not disappointed! Plump and spoiled American jewish princesses cannot come close COME TO ISRAEL! THE BABES ARE AMAZING! BARUCH HASHEM!
2. Israel PR
I.Barr ,   Detroit, USA   (10.29.06)
Israel should start by control of Israeli academia. Free speech carries with it responssibility and accountability. Illan Peppe, Neve Gordon and journalists like Gideon Levy will nullify any attempt to present Israel possition. They need to be legally controlled.
3. Changing the world opinion of Israel
Lawrence Opoczynski ,   Harrow, Middlesex   (10.29.06)
I agree with your general contention that a schmaltzty advertising campaign (generally with an American slant) is no way to initiate a change in the negative perception that so many people have of Israel. Today when reading the Ynet news I viewed the jewish agencies video on its absorption centre and its activities to help the families and particularly the children during the recent conflict. This video would in one fell swoop contradict the perception that Israel and jews are racist and generally of caucasion stock. I married a non jewish chinese woman and have 3 totally non religious children of mixed race, but even their reaction was one of amazement at the sight of black and brown jewish faces living in a jewish environment. I am still a non religious humanist who has an antipathy to all religions but my essence is that of a jew... my race. I strongly believe that the constant emphasis on the religous aspect of being jewish is a negative factor, to non jews. We must emphasise the secular and rightness of our possession of the homeland of the jewish race.
4. Israel fails to makes its case because...
Raymond from DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (10.29.06)
... because they assume outsiders will believe the worst about Israel any, so they don't bother. ... because they're lacking in self confidence in the righteousness of their cause, and are too quick to offer "apologies" after any accusation without first checking the facts. ... because they don't devote adequate resources to the job. Two people in the PM's office, one or two in the IDF aren't enough. Any decent campaign office in the US today has a "quick reaction" team to respond aggressively to the accusations of the opposing camp. Why did it take internet bloggers to discredit the lies coming out of Lebanon this summer? ... because they don't take their message directly to the opposing camp. The Voice of Israel should extend their broadcasts in Persian, Arabic, French, English , etc. beyond their current piddling offerings.
5. Change world opinion
USA ,   USA   (10.29.06)
by changing yourselves- stop the oppression and occupation of the PAlestiniasn- and for g@ds sake stop suing for the holocaust. and stop bumming USA tax dollars- and stop killing children and building walls and, (as #2 wants) STOP CENSORING FREE SPEECH AND DIALOUGE AND CALLING EVERYONE AN ANTI SEMITE that disagrees with you- no wonder people hate israel world wide.
6. The other side has a Gr*8 handle on PR
Russel ,   Tlv   (10.29.06)
You probably haven't heard much about the efforts of the Global Islamic Media Front - al Qaeda's "public relations" team. The group is well known to those who monitor terrorist web sites, but rarely reported on by the mainstream media. (Although the group's recent release of a video game in which the player's goal is to kill President Bush did get some coverage in the Washington Post.) But another recent effort from the group won't likely be reported anywhere in the western media - at least not directly. Titled "Working Paper for a Media Invasion of America", the recently translated document was originally posted on a known jihaddist web site, but has received scant public attention from it's target audience. No full translations of the treatise are currently available, but a brief description of some of the content can be seen here... http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=162530
7. A two-pronged approach is required:
Michael Steiner   (10.29.06)
(1) a 24-hours satellite TV channel broadcasting in Arabic to the Arab world, putting Israel's POV across. The average Arab does not hate Israel, let alone Jews, but does get wound up easily because he or she only hears Arab propaganda through state-controlled media. (2) Stop doing things that alienate people, including humanist Zionists like myself. Don't idiotically cancel trips to Qatar (as stupid Livni did today). Don't mistreat people at makhsomim. Don't discriminate against Israeli citizens because of their ethnicity. Don't turn a blind eye to settler violence (q.v. assaults on pregnant women and schoolchidren, vandalization of property, etc.). Better still, end the occupation of the territories altogether. Don't include a fascist who openly advocated ethnic cleansing in the government. Safe, then Israel won't even need P.R.
8. Israeli PR or lack thereof
Jesse ,   United States   (10.29.06)
Israel truely is in desperate need of PR. A few things that might help: 1) No more old generals on the airwaves. We need to have a yuong, attractive woman, a mother who people can empathize with, to tell our side of the story. 2) Reframe the debate. Put things in a historical contest. Remind people of 1948, 1967, 1973. Remind them why the PLO was founded in 1964 (before the occupation!). Remind them who is trying to destroy whom. 3) Increase our outreach. Broadcasts in multiple languages, by speakers of those languages. Americans think British accents are smarter, so have a young British lady responding to newscasters in America, a chic madmoiselle for France, etc. We must reach out and change to debate on every level, reminding people of historical context, of why we are right. Old majors in uniform trying to explain IDF manouvres will only reinforce negative images of Israel.
9. Advertise differently to different groups
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (10.29.06)
If we are advertising tourism to Israel on a Christian network then Pat Boone is a good choice. If we are advertising to young secular prospects then a beautiful sexy Israeli blond female in a bikini and a handsome Israeli muscular man on the beach are good choices.
10. Reputation
Pedro ,   Quito, Ecuador   (10.29.06)
Improving Israel's reputation...hummm no more killing of Palestinians as if they are less than human - like firing missels into buildings to get a putative very "important" terrotist, missing him but getting 6-7 kids, women and other men...say that would go a long way...also, not blowing up the Gaza power station to induce the liberation of one kidnapped soldier- punishing the whole region's population... and lets see, 15,000 "security datainees"..no trial, no sentence - just warehousing thousands... hummm a coca cola campaign about nice beaches, yes, maybe, maybe that is not enough!
11. What needs doing
eh-oop ,   UK   (10.29.06)
Zvi Mazel's analysis is almost entirely correct. Two related points need emphasis. First, recollection of the true history of the conflict, not the pastiche that passes for information in the mainstream British media. Second, the need for in depth knowledge of the religious culture which means, above all, highlighting the declared intentions of those who wish to destroy us all, taqqiyah and what they do to put these intentions into practice.
12. 10 Yeah you are in Ecuador.
freedom ,   canada   (10.29.06)
You have more than enough problems in your own country.. Look at your history. Your lack of historical knowledge of the area is also quite apparent. Maybe you should read history and from as many sources as you can. Then maybe you can draw some interesting conclusions to the area rather than something you heard from someone else not based upon facts.
13. Israeli PR
Ari Lieberman ,   Brooklyn, NY   (10.29.06)
Effective PR is important. However, so long as the world depends on Arab oil, Israel will always be perceived as the bad guy. It boils down to dollars and cents.
14. STEP 1: STOP APOLOGISING FOR BEING
andrew ,   miami,fl   (10.29.06)
STEP 2: SOMETHING OLD - SOMETHING NEW...THE BIBLE AND MODERN ISRAEL - TIE THE TWO TOGETHER - THE MESSAGE IS REBIRTH STEP 3: STOP REFERING TO JUDEA AND SAMARIA IS "THE WEST BANK" STEP 3: YES - SHOW THE MILITARY - "BETTER TO BE FEARED THAN LOATHED" MACHIAVELLI SAID - GOOD FOR ALIYAH. STEP 4: LOVE IS THE ANSWER TO THE CONFLICT WITH THE PALIS - BRING U2 TO PLAY BETHLEHEM ON CHRISTMAS - MAKE IT A PRO LOVE CONCERT - INVITE THE PALIS TO JOIN US. STEP 5: THE PR CAMPAIGN MUST PLAY IN ARAB COUNTRIES - "WE ARE YOUR COUSINS NOT YOUR ENEMIES" STEP 6: START INGATHERING OF NEW CONVERTS TO ZIONISM / JUSAISM. iSRAEL WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO LIVE IN SHAME. HOW MANY ASIAN WORKERS COME AND COULD BE ASSIMILATED THROUGH LOVE. DONT SHUN THEM - WELCOME THEM STEP 7: OUR HOLY SITES - NOT CHRISTIAN OR MOSLEM: THE TOMB OF RACHEL PER SE BELONGS TO ISRAEL ALONE. STEP 8: OPENLY CHALLENGE THE PERSIANS AND ARABS JOIN US IN LOVING ENDEAVORS . JOIN ISRAEL AND MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE
15. to zvi mazel - dont smash art in swedon - good step 1
andrew ,   miami,fl   (10.29.06)
16. Isn't it fun watching the universities preach bash Bush
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (10.29.06)
and screw the Apartheid Jews. It's about time the Universities and anti semites running European countries were called to the carpet. You want a commercial? If you let the Muslims whack off the Jews---The Muslims will let you live. Show a person filling up their vehicle with a caption below, Thanks for helping the Muslims rid the world of the Jews. Fill her up-- infidel! Don't want to get drafted? Let the Muslims wipe out the Jews instead! Wasn't it easier to turn your head in Europe and live? While Hitler killed the Jews incessantly. Why would these dregs be any different now. Of course you could put on the ultimate commercial. Kill a Jew. We've got a bomb for you! Then show a nuclear explosion courtesy of old American film footage.
17. Bikinis work just fi ne !! Whats wrong with bikinis !!!
fadi ,   lebanon   (10.29.06)
18. Shame on a nation that will use naked women as its image ..
sharon ,   israel   (10.29.06)
and gay weirdos hold a parade in our sacred jerusalem
19. What works for the Palestinians?
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (10.30.06)
Their "country" exports nothing of value, they suck up "humanitarian aid" money from all over the world and it goes into the private bank accounts of the terrorist chieftans, they sit in their own shit complaining about the "occupation," they contribute nothing to world progress, when they're not whining about "occupation" they're screaming about jihad. but the "whole world" (except for Israel and the U.S.) loves them. WHY?
20. Stop crapping all over our most loyal friends
Kyle ,   Southpark   (10.30.06)
The U.S. evangelical Christians are Israel's best friends, PR marketing should be targeted at them. They love Israel and want to see the Holy Sites (Rachel's Tomb, Joseph's Tomb, the Church of the Nativity) preserved, not abandoned to the swarming Mohammedan hordes. Evangelical Christians are worth more to Israel than self-hating secular Jews. Maybe we should open aliyah to the evangelicals.
21. Kyle: The world doesn't love the so-called "Palestinians."
Daisy ,   USA   (10.30.06)
I've heard so many bad things about these Arabs from all kinds of people and not just in America. The problem is with the media. It's controlled all over the world by Arab and Islamic interests. For two decades there has been a planned inflitration of anti-Israel and anti-American journalists who spread Arab propaganda. Don't believe the hype, there is a lot of support for Israel but the media won't show it.
22. The End Justifies the means
1.4 billion muslims ,   World   (10.30.06)
Evangelical love Israel is like There is Religion call Judo-christian , lately u hear Judo-christan value , beliefe etc like there are one religion ; Judiasm believe Torah , whe cristin beleive the Bible , each one them see other false religion and heratic, Accordig to the bible there is verse that says " who blesses Israel will be blessed" and Evangelical sect uses this verse every time they want brain wash naive Jews who is looking for Love and Acceptance , If Evangelical sect beleive what they saying , they should not be Christian cause the people who Believe Judiasm see Christain religion hersay or false religion : The people who Believe Evingelical christian are right wing racist , neo Nazi who do not care the jews . all Evangelical Dooms day Beleivers want is to bring all the Jews people to Israel so their Masiah will come to save them , although according to their beleive , who do not beleive Evangelical christian will not be Saved when the Mesaih comes , Jews would be among those who will not be save , so where are the Love Evangelical christian have Jews people: The Evangelical christian will do any thing to reach their End( second coming of Masieh ) and the means ot reach that Goal is to bring all jews to State of Israel so the End Justifies the Means : Kyle if u r not Evangelical christian who is waiting the Dooms day second coming , i hope u will be the first jews among many the Evangrlical send to israel on at the time . Reality Check . World
23. THANK YOU, ZVI MAZEL!
Israeli-American   (10.30.06)
This article is absolutely correct on all counts.
24. Israel is a blank spot on the map...
Farid H. ,   Morocco / Germany   (10.30.06)
To most people in Europe and North Africa (probably also in the Gulf States) Israel is a blank spot on the map. Sure, in the news there are some footage of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, but that's about all there is. IMHO Israel would gain much by broadcasting documentaries about day-to-day life; just the normal stuff. What does it LOOK like there? How does it feel to visit or live there? ... Setting up a movie industry could also be helpful. There are a lot of myths about Israel circulating here; debunking those would be much more useful than some kind of branding campaign.
25. the author misses the point
dave ,   herzliya   (10.30.06)
The PR campaigns aimed at creating a fuller understanding of Israel outside of the conflict help people sympathize with our victims of the conflct. It has been remarkably successful at opening people's minds.
26. Y'all are idiots
Alex ,   Miami, FL USA   (10.30.06)
Stop promoting yourself as "the same" as the West... the more you do it, the more they lose interest. If you stepped back from this insane need to be loved as "the same" you'd see why. If Israel is no different from Europe/US, then WHY SHOULD IT EXIST? This is a real question, keeping Israel has a Jewish state and Democracy in the region costs billions in subsidies. As a thought exercize, If you could pick up all of "modern" Israel and move it into the US, you'd have the same intellectual capacity that brings in wealth, but none of the military needs. Sure, most of those needs are provided by Israel internally, but it's a "dead weight loss," there is no gain to having smart young Jewish men spend time defending Israel if they could go right into the workforce in a mini-Israel. Therefore, the MORE you demonstrate that you are THE SAME as them, the more they wonder why the hell you don't just go hang out with them. The more you celebrate your secularness on the world stage, the more secular Europeans wonder why you don't emmigrate to Europe and stop needing to deal with the region. If Israel is different, the world sees a reason for you to exist. But you have spent 20 years telling people that you are just like Europeans, and the Europeans are reasonably asking why the hell we all need to deal with these lunatics if y'all could live in the US or Europe. The world is NOT prepared to subsidize billions directly and indirectly (massive anti-Israel Arab armies indirectly push up oil prices, etc.) for "people like them." We subsidize the different, not the same. If you are the same as Europe, then there is no reason for Europe to value you, END OF STORY. If you want PR, it needs to show the VALUE of a Unique Israel in the holy land. That is why in the US, Evagelicals and Orthodox Jews support Israel, and the secular left is losing interest. None of the left-wingers feel the need to support "people like them" that happen to kill people... whether right or wrong, secular lefties see violence as pointless and bad, even when it is there side fight. Embrace the different. Celebrate being Jewish in the Jewish state, WHATEVER THAT MEANS TO YOU. Hell, shopping on Friday/Sunday instead of Saturday is something unique and different. A city shutting down for the Sabbath is different. But attractive blondes in bikinis isn't interesting, and isn't worth spending blood and treasure defending.
27. To really get to know a country, get to know its people
Stanley Schulman ,   Rockaway Park, USA   (10.31.06)
You really have an abstract sense of what really good advertising is about which is to present the product in the best possible way - just as you do when you dress and comb your hair. A country, as Israel is seen in the those, is a cold abstraction but it happens to be made up of very decent, well educated people who live in a wonderful place. As to whether a country can be marketed like a product, think of Rule Brittanica which not only changed the image of Britain, it established the Thatcher agenda. There's a lot of dissonent noise out there about Israel that needs to be short circuited by pressenting the many interest faces and facits of a wonderful country.
28. Bikinis are not enough
Yatzmach Purkonai ,   Makom, Bearhab   (11.01.06)
The learned Ambassador is part of the problem, not the solution. Every bar da'at knows that Israel's PR , at its very best, is horrible. If one travels outside those areas with large, visible, Jewish populations, then the ignorance and misconceptions about Israel are gargantuan. Let's hope the new advertising campaign is successful. Let's ignore those trying to repeat 58 years of consistent, unmitigated failure.
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