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Jerusalem: Orthodox riot against pride parade, again
Efrat Weiss
Published: 01.11.06, 23:08
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31. No homosexual march in the holy city; Please.
Monk ,   USA   (11.02.06)
32. A peaceful parade versus a vicious hate-filled riot
Steve G ,   Kew Gardens,NYC   (11.02.06)
It honestly doesn't matter how justified the ultras feel. Here you have two sides in a democratic country. One side wishes to parade peacefully, the other stages riots. Which one do you think merits government intervention against it? This intolerant behavior is unacceptable in a modern democracy, or any democracy.
33. Haredi intifada
(11.02.06)
End the (secular) occupation of Jerusalem.
34. #13 sam
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (11.02.06)
"women who get beat by their wives" Are you talking about Lesbian domestic violence? http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianhealth/a/DVFactsMyths.htm
35. 10 Gays were shot
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (11.02.06)
10 Gays were shot by other Gays during Halloween riots in the San Francisco Castro district. Where is the outrage?
36. Cancel the parade because the consequences of not doing so..
Ohev Tsion ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.02.06)
...will obviously be far worse.
37. Obey the law!
Ignatious Mucklefutz ,   US   (11.02.06)
Why didn't the violent Haredim element stage a peaceful counter-protest? After all, the law allows freedom of assembly and the Haredim had every right to peacefully protest the gay rights parade. Gays also have the right to protest and hold a peaceful parade. If the Haredim are so brave to attack cab drivers and buses and police, why won't they serve in the army? What do they study that gives them the belief that they are above Israeli Law. Please,....... don't give me that crap about halacha giving them the right to be violent against someone who is not violent towards them and is protesting peacefully.
38. JUST STOP THE GAY PARADE
TOM JACKES ,   CA,USA   (11.02.06)
39. Cancel the queer parade.
Avraham ,   Israel   (11.02.06)
No, you queers don't have a right to march in the holy city of Jerusalem where you are not wanted. You are insulting the holy city of Jerusalem. The Haradim are the defenders of Jerusalem. Those who want to hold the parade are the terrorists.
40. JERUSALEM IS HOLY CITY -- CANCEL THE PARADE NOW !!!!!!!!
AVINU   (11.02.06)
CANCEL THE PARADE ! _____________________________ CANCEL THE PARADE ! ________ _____________________________ CANCEL THE PARADE ! ________ _____________________________ ISRAEL IS A HOLY LAND ______ ____________________________ JERUSALEM IS A HOLY CITY ____________________________ CANCEL THE PARADE NOW !!!!!!
41. gay rights dont include incitment...
In Jerusalem   (11.02.06)
Jews in Israel could care less what the gay world does, as long as its not in our home. Israel is our home and Jerusalem is our heart. We do not what this to take place in order to secure our rights. Why is it necesary to fly in thousands of gays to march in Jerusalem? Only one answer...incitment. Go to the vatican instead.
42. charadim bashing only makes you ignorant...
gedaliah   (11.02.06)
Q:Why generalize thousands for hundreds? A:Hating the religious makes it easier to quiet your screaming nashomot.
43. #32 - good point but
Josh   (11.02.06)
Democracy is the golden calf. Evil has a voice too. Peaceful is not what the parade is but instigation. The insitgation level is about equal to a Nazi or KKK parade as in insults the very core of ones right to live in a community where common values exist. This is why haredi live together. It hits about as hard as the school inavder in the Amish farmlands. As the parents have a strong desire to protect their children from what they see as evil perversion. Gays need to leave people alone and stop instigating on their sexual issues.
44. The 7 Noahide Laws MUST BE Abided By ALL of Mankind
H ,   Jerusalem   (11.02.06)
if you like it or not. One of the 7 laws is IMMORALITY. Instead of PUNISHING those who do not keep the law, the government of Israel has the chutzpah of rewarding those opposed to this commandment of G-d.
45. to #13 and the rest of you nuts.
elchonon ,   jerusalem   (11.02.06)
Maybe you mean the arabs that beat their wifes ? or the russians ? I have yet to meet any alcoholic chareidim that beat their wifes. I am not chareidi, I have lived in jerusalem for close to 3 years and I support 100% the chareidi riots!! G-d chose jerusalem and mount moriah (temple mount) as the dewelling place for the shechina and the devine presence. Jerusalem is the naval of the world, its the holliest place on earth.. You ignoramuses keep citing "religious intolerance" on part of the charedim... ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND ?!?!? How about religious intolerance towards jews, muslims AND christians ?!?!? Of course you dont really care, so long as the gays can march.. in the name of what ?!? freedom? culture? the right to parade? Is that not provocating ? is that not intolerance ? I demand my right to march thrue hebron with pictures of baruch goldstein and kahane flags!!! I demand my right to march thrue shrfram with pictures of eden zada!! and damn if the police dont protect me! damn if anyone dares violate the law!
46. To Josh and Elchonon
Natasha ,   London   (11.02.06)
It is ridiculous to compare the gay parade with the likes of Kahane, the Nazis or the KKK as the gays are not advocating violence towards anyone. Nor are they trying to convert heterosexuals to their way of life. That's like saying if I see people with brown eyes, my blue eyes may change colour!
47. We don't want the parade
Nachum ,   Jerusalem   (11.02.06)
More than 90 percent of Jerusalem residents and the democratically elected Jerusalem municipality don't want the gay parade in their home city. Full stop. Respect the democratic rights of the population majority. Dear Natasha, please fight for the rights of the gays in London or even better in...Moscow.
48. Sanctity
David ,   Cph, DK   (11.02.06)
It is an issue of separating the sacred from the profane. UOjews tolerate their marches in Tel-Aviv alright, but Pride in Jerusalem! what does it mean other than defiance to those who do nto approve of them! in this case jewish people that conitnue to believe in their sacred canon.
49. May I suggest
Moshico ,   Jerusalem   (11.02.06)
If the parade has to go ahead may I suggest they move it to a closed area like Teddy Stadium. May be they should have paraded in the Jerusalem Sukkot parade there was lot of colour there.
50. why don't they pray for it to go away.
moshico ,   Jerusalem   (11.02.06)
I am upset how the Haradim are acting, just like animals. They are making this parade into a media spectacular. Why don't they go to their Yeshivot and pray to Hashem to stop this parade.
51. Kyle....Southpark your ײַנטוסיק
Elokim ,   Israel   (11.02.06)
I would have to go as far as to say that you have ever been to SF for Halloween. The majority of the people who attend this even in the gay sector of SF are people like you, people who can not control themselves. Most of the violence comes from religious morons like you!! Small minded people who are all homophobes and you know what they say about homophobes. If not, I'll tell you, most homophobes harbour gay tendencies and it scares you!!! Please just shout your piehole!!!
52. To Nachum
Natasha ,   London   (11.02.06)
As an Israeli Jew, I have every right to fight for the rights of gays in my holy city! To Moshico... very well said.
53. parade
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.02.06)
Again the haridi use violence when their views are not accepted . They are worser than Muslims ! Jerusalem is not only "their" capital , what have they done for her liberation in 1967 ? Jerusalem is also the capital of all Israeli's , mostly non observant . The haridi are maybe obeing religious laws "a la lettre" , but not the spirit . This said , the gay's do not want to provoke anyone , they want only to parade in their capital , not in mea shearim ! So let them built a wall around their place and stay in their medieval ghetto if they do not want to see non religious people living in the 21th century .
54. Natasha, your 'holy' city?
AB ,   TheRock   (11.02.06)
Simple question. If you admit that Jersualem is holy and you know that being gay is unholy, as it goes against G-d's word, then what's your problem? And to all those who think that the orthodox should keep quiet on this, you are speaking out of total ignorance. If you'd study some Torah you would have learned that if you don't protest when you see someone doing something that is abominable to G-d then you get punished for it too. When G-d wanted to save the tzaddikim in the time of the destruction of the first temple, the Heavenly Court argued that since they kept quiet when their fellow jews were serving the Baal, they didn't deserve to be saved. And they too were killed as a result.
55. To Natasha
Nachum ,   Jerusalem   (11.02.06)
Jerusalem is my Holy City and yours is London. I repeat: we, the overwhelming majority of Jerusalem residents, Jews and Arabs, religious and secular (according to recent poll), don't want here this abomination. Please don't impose on us your distorted notion of holiness and don't intrude into our home. If a stranger breaks into my house I'll simply through him out.
56. Do the gay know? (I highly doubt it)
Amazed ,   NotSodom   (11.02.06)
That their parade is scheduled for the week on which we read parashat Vaera (4th portion in Genesis), which recounts the destruction of Sodom? NOTHING in this life is a coincidence. HaShem, you are so great.
57. #3
jk ,   ny   (11.02.06)
express your right in tel aviv or in nablus or or gaza or new york but not in a holy city of jerusalem be sensitive to the orthodox jews once in a while .. you want peopel to recognize your rights then recognize theirs too
58. Do not fear terror, march on
Jerusalemite   (11.02.06)
59. keep out the gays
qwerty ,   israel   (11.03.06)
hey natasha, frst of all its not only the "narrow minded religious fanatics" who r anti its also many irreligious and the muslims(but if u insulted the muslims that would b racism- so jst keep on insulting jews u anti semite nazi gay lover) second its our country and if we dont want you creatures stay the heck out of G-ds homeland so if u want to parade go do it in ur bathroom
60. Kyle (35) is wrong.
sk ,   USA   (11.03.06)
Dude, you are not telling the truth. You need to apologize. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/02/MNGG3M4KA31.DTL&hw=riot&sn=003&sc=831
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