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Palestinians: Gunmen flee besieged mosque
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 03.11.06, 11:51
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61. Re #7 you need to re-check your facts
Fact checker ,   USA   (11.03.06)
What do you mean by America has to "bail out" Israel? The USA has never been asked to bail out Israel. When Israel declared independence in 1948 and were subseqently attacked by the Arabs, they fought and won with barely an army to speak of and no airforce, yet they did not ask for American troops to come and defend them. Israel has won all the wars using its own brave men and women and has never had Americans on its soil to fight on their behalf. Next time you're ready to take sides, read some history and get the facts before you make false and biased statements.
62. it is against the teachings of the Quran
don't understand ,   USA   (11.03.06)
to use non-combatant women as shields to prevent men from being killed. Where are the righteous Muslims who will stand up for their Quran and declare that these acts are evil and not to be tolerated? Don't the Muslims ever consider what their beloved prophet would think about this? Wouldn't he condemn it? I just don't understand...
63. Ali of Jenin - You're proud to be in a death cult.
Elana ,   LA, USA   (11.03.06)
Yes, it's obvious. Sick, but obvious.
64. Ali of Jenin - Do married Muslim women go to heaven?
Richard James ,   NY, USA   (11.03.06)
You don't believe women have souls, right? So "virgins" go to heaven for men's pleasure, but not women who have been married and have children. So where do the married women human shields go after they've taken bullets meant for terrorists? Do they burn in hell, in your view?
65. #59 nice try, but I don't buy it
not duped in ,   USA   (11.03.06)
If it is true that these women want to sacrifice themselves to protect a bunch of armed men, then they are stupider than the dirt on which they walk. Using women as human shields has proven to be a useful political tool for the Muslims, plain and simple. If the Muslim men truly cared about their wives and daughters, then they would tell them to stay the hell away from a violent shoot-out, not go toward it. And if, as you say, gender has nothing to do with it (which is a bald-faced lie,) well... I have yet to see a group of un-armed, defenseless MEN surround their armed brethren as a human shield.
66. Human shields
Russell ,   Canada   (11.03.06)
I find it interesting that these "human shields" seem to have such respect for the IDF that they think they won't be slaughtered outright. One wonders what they would do if the situation were reversed and the "holy warriers" were the "aggressors."
67. Palestinian "freedom fighters" nothing but Cowards.
DR ,   Florida, USA   (11.03.06)
Who the hell uses and encourages women to be human shields??? Muslims from around the world should be outraged at this, but yet, we see and hear nothing from them. Why?
68. Politically correct rules of engagement get us killed
Steve ,   USA   (11.03.06)
Whether is be the Israeli military in Gaza or the American military in Iraq, the rules are the same. There is nothing holy or sacred about a mosque, shrine or a Church of Nativity full of Muslim terrorists. If we don't start leveling these buildings we are going to lose. Muslims don't have any respect for a synagogue or a church. Neither should we respect the mosque filled with terrorist murderers.
69. #62: Maybe the prophet would applaud it as martyrdom
Monk ,   USA   (11.03.06)
70. AND YOU THINK A QASSAM NEVER HIT A SYNYGOGE????????????????
MEI 1   (11.03.06)
71. Remember Joseph's Tomb?
Jane   (11.03.06)
72. #59 Ali Jenin. You are so scary!
Chesapeake, VA   (11.03.06)
You have no logic. On one hand you say not to lump all of you Arab/Islamists together and than you quote Koren saying that dying together is honorable because your 'god' Allah has determined it. Good Lord, what kind of God is yours that wants you to 'volunteer your women's bodies' in order to breed more death and destruction. Eeehh, not human! What beast are you? That is some pride you have.
73. indigenous
Jack ,   richmond,va   (11.03.06)
Actually, Palestinians are descendants of ancient Israelites. Google the terms "y-chromosome jew palestinian" and read the academic articles that result. At least 80% of Palestinian muslim males are descendants of the ancient Israelites with 50% being Judean (or southern tribes) and the remaining 30% being Israelites (northern tribes). Genetics is the direct handwritting of G-d.
74. Funny as premature suicide bombers
LL ,   USA   (11.03.06)
My favorite story are the suicide bombers who blow up before they get close to their targets and killing the operatives instead, hillarious. But now these comedian like people are sending women in to do a man's job? I love it! On the bright side there is one less cockroach bearing more inbred offspring in this messed up place. IDF has every right to shoot them all and you should have, it would have been all on video and justified. We in the west hear about the gunmen shooting from civilian groups, but now the group has interjected itself into a military conflict...shoot them all! What really is sad is I used to be a peacenic until the intifadah (1st) and spread love. But when it comes to this situation no one is getting peace in the world until one side of this mess wipes out the other. Hurry up and get it done.
75. Proof that the world is with Israel
Ibrahim ,   S. Arabia   (11.04.06)
...is that nowhere in the main West's headlines is anything about Israel.
76. to ali #59
Adi ,   u.s.a.   (11.04.06)
how cnvenient is'nt it? your job is to protect your woman and children , not to jeoperdize their lives...., think about it.
77. to#66
Niki ,   u.s.a   (11.04.06)
you know, i was just thinking the same thing today...., you are so right, they know how to take advantage of the I.D.F'S morals and ethics in the most cynical way, don't they? that's how much they value their woman and children's lives , as "human shields" ... some man they are.
78. to Ibrahim #75
Niki ,   u.s.a.   (11.04.06)
you are so right, i've been asking the same question, not even one word about the 'quasam ' rockets falling on our heads every day....is'nt that strange?
79. to#28 n.y. city girl
Niki ,   u.s.a.   (11.04.06)
so therefor what? " Reuters" as for what - fair? reliable? credible??? we are not impressed! did you by the way see their 'special talent for 'photomontaging' in the last war??? some news agency they are....
80. Effeminate Hamas hiding in womens skirts
Bernard Ross ,   St. Anns Bay Jamaica   (11.04.06)
81. the victim acted bravely and the brave is victimizing
observer   (11.04.06)
82. #13 in retrospect, their choice; surrender & death or escape
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83. It was expected; a woman protester was soot by tank shell
(11.04.06)
#19, and quoting from AFP (by Mehdi Lebouachera Thu Nov 2, 5:04 PM ET), one day before the mosque incident: Mussada al-Huwaihi, a captain in the Palestinian intelligence services, was hit while demonstrating with a handful of other women outside the mosque in the northern Gaza city of Beit Hanun where around 100 Palestinian men had taken refuge, they said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061102/ts_afp/mideastconflictgaza_061102220435 The Gaza strip is a populated area and the average person can expect events like this to happen, even, it was repeated in less than 24 hours. Even if we apply the rules of a war between two equivalent factions, is it permitted for one party to use such wide scale random shooting against militants stuck in the center of a populated area.
84. Ail in Jenin Your right you will rise up, you and...
DANNY ,   America   (11.04.06)
The whole world and you succeed in your blood bath aginst the West and Israel, but just a little bit and not for real. You see we have been told and warned about the things that are about to take by a God who know everything because he made everything, who doesn't accecpt your manmade religion nor your sacrafices of life, He created. You poor fools are being led like fish on a hook to come against Israel, this one true God's chosen people, and you are coming! Gladly and full of RAGE and HATE full of demonic influance, yet willing partisipants in this show of His great Power! You should feel foolish when you read this but you won't because you are duped, duped by pride and selfish ambishion and more than anything hatred. Hatred because these Jews are no better than you, yet God choose them and rejected you and you like the pawns you really are, will do all you can to remove this Truth from history, but you won't. You see we have been told by this Great and Mighty God who is the rise and fall of men, who provides forgiveness and will show Himself Rightious and True and Fathfull to prefore all that He has set out to do. Hey good luck in your "destruction" plans... too bad they are not really yours huh?
85. #84 the wisdom
(11.04.06)
We muslims do not have hate for jews. It is all made by the political leaders; whether israeli or non-israeli. You should adress your israeli leaders first. jew-jew is better than war-war.
86. #10 Your "god" is not my "God"
Ashok ,   India   (11.05.06)
Contradiction is in your heart Lisa. I too had the same contradiction and I started to read Koran before accusing it. I would advice you to read it once and if you are lucky you might appreciate it.
87. #85 you lie too...
(11.05.06)
88. #86 Ashok of India, I agree.
Sheikh yer Bu'Tay ,   Dar al-Harb   (11.05.06)
I read the Qur'an. Sorry, I don't find it near as spiritual as the Torah and Bible. I agree with you. The God of the Torah and the Bible is not the same god in the Qur'an. Muhammad (pbuhv) chose the symbol of the new moon, the cresent, to represent his new religion. In ancient, poly-theisic Arabia, the cresent was the sign for the moon god, Allah. If you do enough research, and are lucky enough to find evidence not destroyed by those who do not want you to find it, you will "know the truth, and the truth will set you free"!
89. #88 Let's share descovaries!
(11.05.06)
For so many years of research, but I have not had such discovary "chose the symbol of the new moon, the cresent,"!
90. #89
Sheikh yer Bu'Tay ,   Dar al-Harb   (11.05.06)
The book I have that contains the footnotes for this discovery of the origin of the cresent in Islam is loaned out to a friend right now. So, I can't give you the specifics you need. A good place to read up on exciting discoveries is: http://www.wyattmuseum.com/wyatt-museum.htm
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