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A blessing or a curse? American evangelists explained
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 05.11.06, 15:30
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31. #26...Kate, I stand corrected.
Craig ,   USA   (11.05.06)
Of course you are correct... Just also wanted to clarify...many individual Catholics are True lovers of Israel and the Jewish people. My belief is that the "Catholic Church" is not to be trusted. I believe they are very much behind the scenes advocating the land for peace, two states approach, and are even for splitting Jerusalem. My apologies to any individual Catholics.
32. Craig, USA
Marcel Abel ,   France   (11.05.06)
I am a Catholic and I tell you you urgently need discernment. Your stance against Catholics is incredible. What do you think ? We Catholics esteem that Evangelicals are delusional puppets who think they can manipulate the Holy Spirit (sic). And what you say about " Protestants " ! First go to Lutherans and judge if you want, the Lord will appreciate your immodesty and pure arrogance similar to that of some Jews. By the way, I love my Pope who is the One to speak up in the current torment not to hide some doctrine but to recall promises made by the Creator to us all. How deceitful your unbalanced expression of different approaches. Have you a monopoly on the Lord ?
33. (23) You are so RIGHT. Thanks.
Marcel Abel ,   France   (11.05.06)
34. US will dump this crap on Tuesday
Jim ,   USA   (11.05.06)
When American see/think of this evanjewish cronies, they think of 2800 US troops killed in Iraqi fiasco and, in recent weeks, corruption and scandals added to the list. Polls in Britain, Mexico, and other christian countries show that US is the most hated country in the world. Americans are keeping that in mind and know who placed them on top of that list when they get in the voting booth on tTuesday.
35. READ WITH CAUTION
Arik Silverman ,   Milwaukee USA   (11.05.06)
First, I have never seen any evidence of a "green light" from Woodrow Wilson on the Balfour Declaration. It was originally issued in an attempt to influence American Jewish bankers to extend credit to Britain after their supply of gold in the US was exhausted. (The Brits also hoped to influence Jews in the Soviet regime leadership to resume the war against Germany.) As for Harry Truman, he wasn't a big supporter of Israel, as his daughter relates in her memoirs of him. For political purposes, to keep Jewish votes and Jewish campaign contributions flowing to the Democrat Party, Truman ignored the advice of his own State Department (which was to avoid alienating the Arabs), and instead recognized Israel and supported adding the Negev to the originally proposed partition. In his diaries he writes of the nuisance of all the pressure he received on this from American Jews. (Some American Jews also lobbied him against creation of Israel.)
36. Craig
Steve ,   USA   (11.05.06)
Craig you wrote: "I have never been able to determine for sure if President Bush is a deceiver or simply ignorant and in way over his level of competence." The Bush family has made its fortune from some of the most reprehensible people on the face of the earth? Many of them were responsible for the murders on 9/11/2001 and Bush has protected them. Mr. Bush is no ignoramous. Like his friend James Baker, he's as cunning as a fox.
37. #32...Marcel
Craig ,   USA   (11.05.06)
As I stated in #31...my apologies for the offense I have given you. This is not the forum to disguss the merits of different denominations...so I will simply reiterate that my 'distrust' lies with the Catholic Church itself. I have good Scriptural foundation and thus my warning to the Jews to beware the Catholic Church. If you have studied the history of the Catholic Church you will realize the radical swings which often took place when new Pope's were elected or simply bought their position; this is strange since Scripture clearly states God is unchanging. In my opinion, the Catholic Church reintroduced a hierarchy which Yeshua aboloished with his sacrificial death. History bears out what evils can take place when an evil man presumes to speak for God...and the followers are taught to believe what he says. As painful as it may be, I urge you to study church history and then read the New Testament book of 'Revelation'. A great book titled: "A Woman Rides the Beast" by Dave Hunt is an eye opener. Rome is commonly known to be the' city on seven hills'. Again, I don't doubt your faith, your love, or your sincerity...but I stand by my warning to Israel. I firmly believe that the Catholic Church will be directly involved in a final betrayal of Israel; if you read Dave Hunt's book, you will at least understand why, and how clearly the Book of Revelation identifies the Roman Catholic Church. Best to you and yours.
38. Connie #11
Edwin ,   Canada   (11.05.06)
...and the Baptists gave $10 million to Jews for Je*us to specifically to convert Jews to Xianity!
39. I'm glad
PBT   (11.05.06)
I'm glad to finally read an article that shows that not all Christians are the same. The Bible-believing evangelicals will do whatever it takes to help Israel, and if they they try to convert you, so what? Just tell them you're not interested. They will still support Israel. If there was a new Holocaust, they would be the ones risking their lives to help Jews. It is the Christians who believe in replacement theology that need to be approached with extreme caution, but even there you will find some good people. Christians are not all the same. Don't lump them all together. The evangelicals are completely different from Catholics.
40. # 30 Craig /Steve/Marcel
Marcel ,   Florida   (11.05.06)
Craig wrote ; ""and that Israel will eventually be betrayed. "" Wake up Craig, Israel has already been betrayed by the Bush Road Map marcel abel from france ,I am an ex catholic who thanks the messiah of Israel for setting me free from this false religion .As Craig mwntions a woman rides the beast I encorage you to read this book as it will open your eyes to the truth. Steve ,many Christian's are asleep in bed with the devil who divides Israel and will be judged by Hashem for playing the whore.
41. read Mr. Hagee's statement for yourself
(11.05.06)
http://www.jhm.org/support-israel.asp
42. MARCEL FLORIDA IS MY COMPETITION
ATT: MARCEL ,   ..............DACON9   (11.05.06)
COMPETITON FOR PROVACTIVE COMMENTS..... MARCEL AS LONG AS YOU DONT USE CAPS IN OYUR TALKBACKS... NOTICE MANY PEOPLE ARE NOW USING CAPS.... NOT NICE TO DO TO ME MARCEL.
43. dacon9 #42
pumpkin pie   (11.05.06)
hey buddy !!! glad to see you at least have a sense of humor ( I was beginning to wonder.) i disagree with the onesided and close-minded way you view christians, but you seem like a real character and i like that. it was hard to write this in all lower case letters but i did it in honor of you.
44. #22 Craig, we love you right back
we have been loving ,   you for a long time   (11.05.06)
for a long time now, ever since I first heard (during the second Intifada's continues world wide blood libels) we have friends like you, and some others, I've been thanking HaShem for your support. Do not doubt that, it would be wrong.
45. All Israel will be saved
marilyn   (11.05.06)
Christians are commanded to love our fellow man as ourselves, we are also under command to love our enemy. We are to be impartial to all mankind, and we are under command to preach the Christ. As far as Israel goes we are told by God that they are beloved of him because of their ancestors, and we are under command not to become discreet in our own eyes, because God has still a work to complete in the forming of this nation. We see you being hurt and we see you struggling and my own personal agenda is to encourage your faith in Jehovah , your former, and to bring to your attention that he has kept his word to Jerimiah and has established a new covenant, through Jesus Christ ,that must be entered into on a personal level. 'kiss the son' By the way we are told that you are our enemies because of the 'good news' we declare, so we are well aware of the hostility towards us.We want you to succeed and you owe us nothing.
46. Chassidic Non-Jews - May Hashem Bless You !
Moshe ,   New York   (11.06.06)
The Evangelical Christians of America - as well as other Christians, and all righteous non-Jews thru-out the world - merit the highest blessings and love of the Jewish people, and of course of Hashem - Almighty G-d Himself. They are spiritually of Jacob, abide by the 7 Noahide Commandments, and bring glory to G-d's world. For info on the 7 Noahide Laws please see > http://www.hasidicgentile.org/C813947344/index.html May Moshiach (Messiah), whoever he is, soon arrive, and may we all happily meet in Jerusalem to serve our One and Only Creator. Shalom, Love and, G-d bless you all !
47. #22 Craig - G-D warned of those who will Betray
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (11.06.06)
Considering almost 2,000 years of horrific persecution of Jews by the apostate church, your statement is very unreasonable: "Do Jews in general so love the mantle of victimhood...that they automatically reject anything (Christian friendship) which threatens this core identity? " "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves." G-D gives many warnings in the Bible about those who appear to be righteous, but in reality are the opposite of what they appear to be! Do you not realize such people are also in the Evangelical Church? Of course, there are many true and faithful friends of Israel amongst Christians, but G-D's warnings must NOT be ignored!
48. blah...blah...blah.....
mark ,   usa   (11.06.06)
#1 hit it right .......he is on the mark. john hagee knows what the bible says and very aware about the future.he will definately use israel as a sacrifice.this guy is fake,looney and pure nutts.don't be blind.he feeds ou today only to sacrifice you tomorrow. shalom!
49. Reply to John - 1.
James ,   Glasgow, Scotland   (11.06.06)
John, The word of God comes by revelation whether to Jew or Gentile and that by the Holy Spirit. The church is comprised of both, now one in Christ Jesus. No man can convert anyone. Only God can do that and that is why He came to this planet so that some may be saved and those at HIS calling, out of all creeds and kin. That is Justification by Faith. The reason Christians love Israel is because the God who indwells them loves Israel. You keep your traditions for that is as much " christianity " you'll ever know for it was tradition that condemned Jesus and to destroy tradition that He rose again. A man cannot get to heaven unless he is born again, that is receives the new life given by God through grace and not tradition and that is what makes a Christian or a member of the body of Christ. The Jews first and then the Gentiles. To those that God calls the calling is irresistable to any for not one has been lost.
50. Reply to Dacon9 - 4.
James ,   Glasgow, Scotland   (11.06.06)
It is true that many things you quote was done in the name of God and Christianity. Rest assured they were not done by Christians because no Christian born of God could do those things. Time and space make proper explanation impossible but accept that what appears to take the name of Jesus are not always those that belong to Him and so it was with the churches who ordained such atrocities on Jewish people. If God be true and loves Israel then it is impossible for His ecclesia or body to do otherwise.
51. We are both blowing it!!
Jill ,   Colorado   (11.06.06)
G_d said if we would humble ourselves and pray and seek His face He would heal our land, that includes the U.S. and Israel. But instead we are saturated with opinions and resentment and unforgivness and paranoia. Lord please help us!!! Let us turn from our sinful selves to you, reject Titles of Zionist or Christian and let us be Lovers of G-d and let Him work this out in His own way and His own timing. Let us stop this crazy fault finding and start looking in the mirror of our hearts and minds...Help us Lord, Help us!!! before we destroy each other with hatred and confusion.
52. Christians
James ,   Glasgow, Scotland   (11.06.06)
There are two peoples in this world, those in sin and those not. The former know not God and the latter are born again of God and these include both Jews and Gentiles in one body, one Spirit and one God. The former are also called tares who appear Godly but their fruit is poisonous and they unfortunately have to live amongst us until the time of reaping, the last day. That means that some who call themselves Christian are not and one of the marks they bear is an anti-semitic knowledge and wrong translation of the Gospels. Those that think they are righteous had better take another look in the mirror both Jew and Gentile for who amongst you has ever kept the commandments? Who among you has given God your all, from birth till now? From most of your comments not many among you know God let alone your friends.
53. Marcel, Florida
Marcel Abel ,   France   (11.06.06)
Please, Marcel, I have not just discovered the Bible. Why do you along with Craig interpret images in the "hollywoodian" fashion : when you see a woman riding a beast, I see a symbol whose signification has to be put in psychoanalytic, even freudian perspective. I personally prefer attaching myself to the very words of Jesus. "I am the way, etc." We all are members of the same Body. Do we need arguing any longer. If you are a eye, I need you to see, but you need my feet to go : it's simple. The same signs as noted above baffled Nicodem . We are here like quarrelling children who miss a good opportunity to decipher the numerous signs given to us. The Lord bless you both, you and Craig, and all, Jews and non-Jews.
54. Thank you, Moshe, New York
Marcel Abel ,   France   (11.06.06)
Hashem bless you and all.
55. #29 - you don't get it
Josh   (11.06.06)
"My, O my! If only I could control all the billions of US foreign aid dollars " The reason the US people are bilked (taxation without representation) and their money given to people that hate them is because the US Christians have broken the 1st commandment. Because of them failing Deut 13, they get the curses "and your money shall be taken away from you and given to your enemy" and "you will sink lower and they will raise higher". From fat children turning evil eyes, to women aborting, to extreme weather, one need only open their eyes and apply simple logic-the curses are their. Thus there is no "forgiveness" or "payment" for all sins. Even if it were you job to dole out money, you wouldn't have control. Know you foundations. Evangelist are fullfilling Deut 13. It is the test. Any person who knows and comprehends the simple reading of Moses' writings sees what's going on and knows these evangalists are not trustworthy. It is as it was in the Garden of Eden, the context rules. Read the prophecies and see how religions lie out of context. Someone once told me if you rearrange the letters of "evengelist" you get "evils agent". Irronic?
56. to #7 dacon
jul ,   Mastrich   (11.06.06)
What are you talking about??? I am a 100% Jew and I CAN pronounce the name of Jesus. I can even read the new testament and have Christian friends if I wanted.
57. YNet mixes up Christian eschatology with Muslim eschatology
Mark James ,   Seattle, Washington   (11.06.06)
Unfortunately YNet (or the the Jewish author David Brog who is big with Haggee's new outfit: Christians United for Israel (CUFI)) seem to mix up Muslim eschatology with Christian eschatology. Supposed the Xian Christ will come back and kill all the Jews (the Muslim belief). However, in Christian eschatology, most of the Jews will be saved in the end, so Christ would take them to heaven (i.e., not Janna). http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3323758,00.html [snip] Above all, the widespread idea has been floating around that the evangelicals aren't acting out of love for Israel or Jews, but out of a desire to hasten the second coming of their messiah, Jesus, at which point Jesus either kills or converts the Jews on Judgment Day.[snip]
58. Thank you Evangelical Christians-We love you!
Shoshana   (11.06.06)
59. pumkin pie,,ITS EITHER WRITE YNET OR GET MARRIED AGAIN
SPECIAL TO PUMKIN ,   ..............DACON9   (11.06.06)
AND I DONT HAVE THAT WIFE TO ARGUE WITH ANYMORE..... I AM JUST PLAIN BORED..... HEY IF YOU CAN CONVERT... WE CAN HAVE A DATE.....
60. #57 You are right.
Sheikh yer Bu'Tay ,   Dar al-Harb   (11.06.06)
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