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Beit Shemesh: Haredim stone 'non-kosher' buses
Efrat Weiss
Published: 05.11.06, 18:00
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1. To the mechitzah brigade
Flynnt ,   Tel Aviv   (11.05.06)
We are human: we eat, we eliminate, waste and we breed. GET OVER IT! Concentrate on your crotches and we'll concentrate on ours. Get smaller sheets with a bigger holes - perverts!
2. let them walk
(11.05.06)
3. HELLO??? THIS IS JUDAISM???
Aaron ,   Ra'anana   (11.05.06)
4. Just stop running the bus through there
John ,   USA   (11.05.06)
5. Ultra-orthadox neighbourhoods --> Martial law - NOW!
(11.05.06)
6. "our" Hamas
frankie ,   Tel Aviv   (11.05.06)
Those Haredim are, alas, "our" equivalent of Hamas. Shame! Beit Shemesh is a mixed religous-secular town. It's no Bnei Brak. Their rabbis are rabid obscurants, Jewish (oy vey) ayatollahs. The police must HARSHLY intervene!
7. Why not just burn it like in France?
(11.05.06)
8. As much as I try not to dislike the Haredim...
DkS   (11.05.06)
..they're not exactly making it any easier for me. What on earth is wrong with those people? They preach tolerance and complain about discrimation, but are unable to show one iota of tolerance themselves. Why do we, the secular and non-ultra orthodox religious populations of Israel, tolerate their outrageous behaviour? Instead of punishing them, or at least treating them no different from all other Israeli Jews, we give them all kinds of grants, excemptions and other benefits! There is something seriously wrong with the system here. I can only hope that actions like these are performed by a small radical minority and most Haredim disapprove of them. Nevertheless, tough measures are required against these lawless fanatics. They bring shame upon the whole of Israel and the Jewish people! Enough is enough! When will something be done?!
9. haredi rioting
mordy   (11.05.06)
while i support haredi and general religious public opposition to the gay parade in Jerusalem, this kind of rioting against people on buses will only drive more secular people against religious people. Haredim went over the line here-this is chilul Hashem, no matter the justification.
10. Separation
lorry ,   Northern Isreal   (11.05.06)
By stopping the padre in Jerusalem on grounds on the riots and not because of moral values. You open a door for riots and violence. The idea that no matter what religious issues you can change them through violence will separated this country even more
11. Nail these bastards.....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (11.05.06)
12. Make your own bus line
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (11.05.06)
Call it "The Short Bus"
13. didn't know you could eat buses....
(11.05.06)
14. That is
Zoey ,   Israel   (11.05.06)
just disgusting!!!!!!! They should have the parade in Jerusalem just to spite them!
15. one minute! there was no passengers!
(11.05.06)
Ynet, is this a kind of joke. If there was no passengers and only a driver; how could be sepration be applied. this is a real advancement, why do not you share it with other extremists!?
16. The rule of Law!
The Raccoon   (11.05.06)
The chief point of Judaism is the rule of Law. It also happens to be vital for the survival of the state, especially as a democracy. I say treat these people as what they are - criminals. If they attack a police officer, shoot them. If they break the law, arrest them, judge them, and punish them - in accordance with the law. Is it too much to ask for from our govermnent - the enforcement of our most basic and simple laws?
17. Kosher Buses and Setting fire in Jerusalem
Theo ghefner ,   Toronto Canada   (11.05.06)
Why don't they serve in the IDF instead of doing all this?
18. Disgraceful! Let them provide their own buses!
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (11.05.06)
19. If God exists; he would be ashame of these Jewish Taliban
Eythan ,   France   (11.05.06)
20. These are NOT Anti-Zionists!
Dovy ,   Toronto   (11.05.06)
They are always trying to make the Zionist State kosher. In the meantime the Zionist "Jews" are murdering Palestinians in Gaza. Whoever their leaders are (Eyda Haredis), they are ZIONISTS. Exactly as Mizrachi was 50 years ago!
21. #6 DO YOU HAVE BRAINS?
KACH 613 ,   MEDENAT YEHUDA   (11.05.06)
YOU SAY THAT A KID THAT TROUGHW A STONE IS LIKE HAMAS?
22. balls, political and otherwise
tom ,   toronto, canada   (11.05.06)
three government institutions need to develop "balls" in a big hurry: the politicians have to decide whether it's better, FOR ISRAEL, to have a coalition that includes haredi support, no matter what the cost, or to have safety from stonings and burnings. the police have to take their jobs seriously. rioters who stone and burn cannot be allowed to continue to intimidate the police, any more than any other terrorists. the police have to face up to their political masters, and demand their support. and if the police cannot or will not deal with the problem, the army must be prepared to deploy and restore order, just the same way that they handle non-haredi mobs - just like in the territories. "dina d' malkhuta dina"
23. Do they insist on separating even gay men and women
Uzi   (11.05.06)
dressed and behaving like Haredim?
24. Buses
Arielush ,   Israel   (11.05.06)
Where is our Rosa Parks Seperate queues for the bank, separate buses. Our boys serve in the army while they sit in their Yeshivas. Let them walk.
25.  What a Joke
Phillip ,   USA   (11.05.06)
How is this allowed? Talk about the Arabs living in the 16th century. This morons are living in the 1st century. Hamas can take lessons from these lunatics.
26. Had they been Arabs....
Rami ,   Nazareth, Israel   (11.05.06)
.. they would have been shot dead but because they are Jews, then it's ok to endanger even kill other Jews.
27. buses
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.05.06)
what will be the next law violation by those criminals ? and this all in the name of god ! Is their's the same as this one in whom's name hunderds of thousands of Jews were murdered in Europe during the middle ages and other periods ? I begin to think i'm right . Let Egged stop driving in those insane and murderous neighbourhouds , let them set up their own companies with a text : NICHT FUR UNGLAUBIGE JUDEN . [ not for non religious Jew ] Do you remember ?
28. Haredi action wrong in so many ways
Raymond from DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (11.05.06)
Those using violence to promote their gender separation standards are closer to the self righteous Vice/Virtue committees in Wahhabist Saudi Arabia than they are to Hamas. Yes, they are an embarrassment to the Jewish "way" and to Israel, and security forces undermine the rule of law when they fail to pursue, arrest and prosecute them. These ultra hooligans are becoming more assertive, and more aggressive, because of their growing numbers, even as Islamists are growing more assertive in Western communities as their own numbers grow. I don't recall anything like this happening in the Jerusalem of the 70's when the ultra-orthodox were a distinct minority. Were ultras anywhere else to demand that private or municipal transport companies implement gender separation they'd be laughed out of town. If they want it, they can create their own such services, at their own expense. Yet here, in a state they don't recognize as a "Jewish state", they expect their perverse standards - which have no basis in Jewish tradition - to be implemented.
29. to kach 613
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.05.06)
Where these kids in your eyes ? first of all go immediatly to your doctor , you need glasses !!! Then , after Bar Mitzwa , they are considered adults . and they were older . So kach 613 [ do some of those mitzwoth ! ] they are worser than hamas because they are [ ???] Jews [ not in my eyes ]
30. Paint the buses PINK!
B'Galil ,   Avtalyon, Israel   (11.05.06)
Not only should the buses continue to run, but they should paint them pink and play Barry Manilow music on the ram kol!
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