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Scuffle erupts between gays, Right
Neta Sela
Published: 10.11.06, 11:36
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1. Oshra from Tel-Aviv said "wer'e not open-minded"
Pinhead Norton ,   Jerusalem   (11.10.06)
First let us define what "open minded" is..For many, including myself, it's this.. Someone whose so open minded their BRAINS HAVE FALLEN OUT!
2. This is Israel, Just sex.. Not only that its GAY!, ...
John ,   TX   (11.10.06)
Israel is spreading badness on Earth... hey nejad c'mon , REMOVE IT
3. Jerusalem: Holy City status by Church of Sodomology
Brother Petronis ,   Jerusalem   (11.10.06)
Jerusalem has been elevated to the status of "Holy City" by the Church of Sodomology, announced Archbishop Satania today. We will be establishing the Seminary of Sodomology near the AISH complex to train our priests and nuns. Our jobs program will be training our teachers to be certified to work in the Israeli public and religious school systems, thus contributing to job development in Israel. Our yeshiva outreach program will be reaching out to sexually repressed and oppressed yeshiva students, especially those from the U.S. who are completing their year of post high school yeshiva in Israel. Our student health clinic will offer a sexual reorientation program to those sexually oppressed heterosexual men and women who want to begin enjoying the freedom and pleasure of the gay lifestyle, and break the oppressive bonds of "The Law". We are sure the Isaeli Jewish community will like us and welcome our activities once they get to know us and see that we are really nice people.
4. Only Pyrrhric victories in this one.
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (11.10.06)
5. The photos of previous gay pride parades.
Elana ,   LA, USA   (11.10.06)
The gay lefties seem to think that they can make peace with the Paleos by gay Israeli men having sex with Pal men, G-d forbid. Do these lefties understand that Arab societies execute people who are openly homosexual? Is any part of their circulatory systems (blood flow) reaching their brains?
6. to # 1
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.10.06)
Their brains fallen out ? and yours ? you probably did not receive any .
7. Open Minded??!!
gidon ,   Jerusalem   (11.10.06)
Open minded with normalcy and respectibility if these animals decide what is open mined what will be of society.
8. not neccessary
megan gray ,   Israel   (11.10.06)
to have these parades when our security is at such a high level, with terror threats...Ok if you are gay, thats up to you and your preferences, BUT if was very selfish and thoughtless, and also on the part of those demonstrating against it. Don't we have enough turmoil, enough is enough..let Jew accept Jew as they are and accept Israel as a country for all Jews, gay straight heridi and hiloni, because we have enough enemies around us. Actually dont need the Arabs, we could have a nice little war of our own!
9. Why Aren't The Police Arresting Those VIOLENT Gays
H ,   Jerusalem   (11.10.06)
who went against the agreement? And where are you Leftists with your protests against this LAWLESSNESS???? Now that it's not Haredim you hypocrites have lost your tongues... Hah?
10. gays in panties fighting !!?? thats new lol
fadi ,   lebanon   (11.10.06)
11. Extremists on Both Sides
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (11.10.06)
It's a shame to see how extremists on both sides create incidents to no purpose. Considering the current security situation, this was a fair compromise & everyone should have been satisfied. I guess you can't count on everyone being reasonable.
12. to H
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.10.06)
You'll find already an answer #11 . I will only add one thing . One of the right wing carried a weapon [ authorized , but on a manifestation ? ] other had knives or so . Did the Gay [ who acted stupidyly ] carry weapons ?
13. Why doesnt it say a scuffle broke out between a...
LoOnEy Lefties out ,   Israel   (11.10.06)
Far Left activist. the facist LLM (LOoNeY LeFt-wing MeDiA) strikes again. "muerte la differance!" kill and deligitimitaize and non-wacked out suicidal lefties!
14. hey oshara if your so open minded...
Eitan ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.10.06)
dont be selfish! what about the vast religious majority of Muslims, Jews and christians who live in jerusalem rights? you dont see a vatican day parade in San-Fransisco or the jewish day parade in Tel-aviv. why dont you facist lefties respect anyone elses feelings? no one will respect yours if you act this way! your are all egoists! you call the hareidim facists but you are the ones stepping all over them and their rights. Haraeidim and right wingers are the underdogs in this leftwing antisemetic dictatorship.
15. So G-D LOST after all in the Jewish State - What a Disgrace!
H ,   Jerusalem   (11.10.06)
What a CHILLUL HASHEM (desecration of G-d's name) the government of Israel and its "High Court" has made with sanctioning such immorality in the Jewish state of Israel. Shame on the government of Israel and shame on its court for literally spitting in the face of Hashem and telling Him that He has no business meddling in their affairs and enforcing His "old fashioned" laws in this "democratic" country. G-D FEARING JEWS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD: It's time you seriously pray for Moshiach to come and get rid of this corrupt government and court. We cannot allow such dishonor and humiliation to G-d anymore. It's time to make Israel a real Jewish state with Jewish values that would GLORIFY G-D'S NAME.
16. #11 Both Sides = G-d's Side and His Opponents
H ,   Jerusalem   (11.10.06)
And G-d, obviously lost! A true chillul Hashem! And you have the chutzpah to call this a "fair comprise" when G-d specified in the holy Torah that such acts are abomination to Him. These paraders are simply rebelling against G-d. Shame on them!!!
17. Does Freedom of Expression Include Everything, Everything,
H ,   Jerusalem   (11.10.06)
Everything?!?! Can we march in Nazi uniforms and scream Heil Hitler? Or march nude? Or make fun of Islams or the Islamic religion or other cultures, minorities, etc.? If not, where is "YOUR" "Freedom of Expression"? This proves to us that you are TOTALLY wrong since civilization accepted that NOT everything is permissible and there are limits to "Freedom of Expression" even in a "democracy". Immoral, abominable acts that are against G-d's laws He outright mentions in the Torah, is not worse than the above mentioned examples. And this is surely not included in "Freedom of Expression" since this is AGAINST JEWISH RELIGION.
18. H...
Philippe ,   Mtl, CDN   (11.10.06)
Stop complaining against the gays with such hatred. You sound so frustrated I'm starting to think you just need to come out of the closet and accept your homosexuality. Your taking this way too personnal.
19. to Eitan
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.10.06)
Today many of your friends and you talk about Jerusalem , holy city for the THREE religions . Otherwise you talk Jerusalem beeing onlyfor the Jews , not for the others . Probably you use this argument only when it is in accordance with your writings . Regarding other writings , so full of hate against the gay's , the charidi acting on a manner not so religious , is this the way Jews behave ? Even if the gay's hurt some of you , remember , Jerusalem is ALSO their capital . They are not anti Israeli as some of you most hatefull friends . You know : tell me who your friends are , i'll tell you who you are . To H , i already answered to your tb on another place , but again : do not come with : god gave ..... yes six millions of our brethren murdered , i prefer other presents
20. to H
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.10.06)
You compare a gay's parade , to a nazi parade ? Did the gay's murder six million of our brethren ? The gay's parade is FREEDOM of EXPRESSION [ even if it hurts some "religious" feelings ] the other is hate , and is punished in most European countries , where there is a freedom of expression , and gay parades are allowed . So stop your hatefull religious invectives against those who have not the same ideas as you . The only thing you achieved this week is that GOOD , non religious Israeli's will less and less tolerate you. Fantastic fotr you no ?
21. #17
DAVID ,   RAANANA   (11.10.06)
so you compare a gay march with nazis? what did gays do to you? did they kill 6 million of out brothers? i think it's quite the opposite: it's people like you who discriminate other human beings just for being humans and do things you don't approve who resembles the nazis. do gays discriminate you? do they try to stop haredim when for example they light the candles of chanuca in the street? or when they hold massive rallies in Kikar Zion in Jerusalem? STOP DISCRIMINATING FOR WHAT PEOPLE DO IN BED, AND START ACCEPTING PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY ARE...HUMAN BEINGS LIKE YOU AND ME.
22. #9 Violent gays?
Marcus   (11.10.06)
Simply marching isn't vilence and neither is marching outside the agreed upon parade route. The violence was on the part of the haredim trash who attacked those marchers. Perhaps you'd like if the government identified all gays in some visible way, perhaps they could be forced to wear pink triangles on their arms. Then we could designate areas that are off-limits to gays, and the police and haredim militias could enforce those rules -- though of course, even that would require the haredim to do a job of sorts, forming a militia.
23. extreme right but no extreme marchers ?
Marcel ,   Florida   (11.10.06)
Perverted evil ones who call evil, good and good evil have only one destination for eternity and it ain't heaven.
24. megan (8)
sk ,   USA   (11.10.06)
Megan, in Israel, the security level is very often high, and most days have some kind of holiday or commemoration related to them. There are no "good days" to hold a civil rights march. The fact is that many do not share your sensible view regarding gays. As a LEGAL fact, gays are seriously discriminated against in Israel. If there were no discrimination, marches would be unnecessary. The cost involved in protecting this parade is because of the weirdo proto-terrorists.
25. Did gays kill 6 million of our brothers?
Canada   (11.10.06)
I don't know the answer to that, but I suggest you contact the men who came into contact with Patient Zero in the San Fransisco bath houses in the late 1970's, early 1980's.
26. #17 - the answer is YES
skavanagila ,   Israel   (11.24.06)
Unfortunately, the answer to your question is yes - even if you totally disagree with the expression, as long as it does not promote violence, all forms of expression should be allowed in a democracy. "I may disagree with you, but I will fight for your right to express it."
27. To everyone...
Rodrigo Melgarejo ,   Reno, NV USA   (12.11.06)
Didn't gays get killed by hitler along with jews/polish/etc..? Do you not think that not accepting of gays is against god's belief of loving one another? You think God Hates Gays? You think God Hates? It's interesting. When a a religious group, jewish, and a country, israel, that has been and still is oppressed by so many in this world. is oppresing gays. Israelis fight for freedom yet they fight the freedom of others.
28. to No. 2
ahmed Kadret ,   baghdad, Iraq   (12.05.08)
Maybe you should ask Nejad to remove Texas and that demented retard George W Bush. I think anyone has the right to protest and voice their opinions, it does not matter whom you choose to love and like trees, some bear fruit and others don't so being Gay is not a crime but being a Rapist or some idiot who kills and blows himself up is a serious crime, I don't see anyone complaining about that. Let them protest, as long as it's harmless, who are we to judge how others should live their lives.
29. Gay Jews
Barazani Benzvi ,   Woodland Hills, CA.,   (12.06.10)
I am a far, far right wing Jew. I have always believed that the Aretz is for all Jews, left wing, , gay, fat, Sephardic, German....... If I saw a Jew being harassed or beaten by goyem I would attempt to aid my brother. I would not first interview him to find out his sexual preference. If one loves Eretz Yisrael, and loves the Jews of Yisrael, this love is for ALL JEWS! Barazani Benzvi
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