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Chaos in Lebanese gov't as pro-Syrian ministers resign
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Published: 11.11.06, 20:25
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31. To 20
Shai ,   Israel   (11.12.06)
500 fighters dead. If the rest were civilians caught in the cross fire because HIZBOLLAH PLACED THEIR WEAPONS IN CIVILIAN ENCLAVES! The fault there lay, according to my understanding of international law, no less and probably more with Hizbollah than with Israel. Send your complaints to them. How you find weapons in ambulances after they're bombed, who knows. Of course, it's obvious you are making this point because it makes Israel look the opposite of "very intelligent", but again, if Hezbollah didn't use ambulances to transport weapons it wouldn't have happened. I don't confess that Shabaa farms is Lebanese, I said that the whole argument over Israel not completely withdrawing as the UN claims is based on the pretext of Shabaa farms. I'm sure that there will be no problem giving it to Lebanon once Syria formerly says it belongs to Lebanon, which they aren't willing to do. This means that Syria sees it as Syrian, and until we enter negotiations with them, no Syrian land will be ceded. It was won in a war against Syria, so it was not stolen. As far as the food, as I said there were humanitarian corridors. The responsibility of using those corridors to distribute food was not the civilians, but the Lebanese government's, who dropped the ball and did NOTHING to help their citizens escape the Hizbollah battleground. It is to them that you should direct your claim. Bridges makes more sense than streets, which you claimed previously. Bridges are knocked out to prevent resupply of arms to Hizbollah, or to prevent easy removal of the kidnapped soldiers. These were legitimate military targets for this reason. I don't expect anything from Seniora. he's obviously a first class coward, as are the entirety of the Lebanese public who allowed Hizbollah to take over their country, harass Israel, and then when they get beaten for it, blame Israel. Why was Israel in Lebanon for 20 years? Because the Palestinians started a civil war in order to gain a foothold from which they could attack Israel, and Israel was trying to help its allies, the South Lebanese Army, resist this move by Palestinians and their non-Christian allies in Lebanon. There was no Hizbollah because there was the Amal shiite militia. Hizbollah started when some shiites disagreed with Amal's priorities and allegiances. It had nothing to do with Israel. Lastly, we didn't run from Lebanon. We implemented a UN Resolution to leave Lebanon, and listened to those who counseled us to leave for the sake of peace. Now that we see what kind of peace we get when we give you what you want, we'll be sure not to give you what you want. That's not very smart of you, Lebanese.
32. to #20
Hagar ,   u.s.a   (11.12.06)
Shai is right! read some facts before you write so much nonsense here, or look for different and more accurate sources, they are not too hard to find.
33. Siniora hang in there...
Noa ,   Israel   (11.12.06)
We the people of Israel ,would like to have you next door to us......, don't give up!
34. #5
(11.12.06)
i am israeli, but i am also a human being that saw the pain you lebanese suffered during this war. when the soldiers were kidnapped and murdered by hizbullah, it was with 100 percent aproval by your president, siniora. before the war, siniora met with hizbullah and nasrallah in secret together with other cabinet members in the lebanese government and discussed the kidnapping of the soldiers. nasrallah and siniora met prior to the lebanon war and both discussed nasrallah's plan and agenda against israel. siniora, although reluctant and fearful of the consequenses, allowed nasrallah to start and execute an evil action that he was sure will anger the israelis. but, because israel never retaliated against hizbulla for prior kidnappings and murder of soldiers and civilians, siniora/nasrallah ware positively sure, israel will not react to this planned provocation. well, they were wrong. israel reacted and in doing so many lebanese suffered.....you have only nasrallah and siniora to blame for bringing this upon your heads. you DO NOT ENTER INTO A FOREIGN COUNTRY AND KIDNAPP AND KILL CIVILIANS AND SOLDIERS MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS and protecting the border. THIS ACTION BY HIZBULLAH WITH SINIORA'S APPROVAL IS AGAINST INTERNATIONAL LAW!!!!! WHEN ISRAEL LEARNED THE SOLDIERS WERE KIDNAPPED, THEY DID DECIDE TO RETALIATE IN HOPES OF GETTING THE SOLDIERS BACK. bridges, canals, southern beirut....home of hizbulla and hizbullah terror cells, all was bombarded.....also the ports, ships, airport, roads leading to syria, etc....all were bombed because these were the routs and means that hizbullah would have used to trnsport the soldiers out of the country to possibly syria and iran and israel would have never heard from them again. this was israel's fear. that they won't be able to get the soldiers back if they can freely be transported inside and out of lebanon. never underestimate israel and it's military power. do not play games with us. do not try tricking us. we are not fools. we know your government supported nasrallah in this action against israel, fully.! as a matter of fact, your siniora screamed at nasrallah "what have you done???" only after the israeli retaliation....and after nasrallah admitted that had he known about the israeli retaliation, he would have never done what he did. too late. therefore, you suffered. WHEN A PEOPLE OF A COUNTRY APROVE OF THE TERROR ACTION TOWARDS ANOTHER COUNTRY, THEY ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE IN THE PLOT AND THEREFORE ACCOUNATBLE TO THE ACTION OF THEIR LEADERS.....WHO TOOK A VERY BIG CHANCE AND DIDN'T REALIZE ISRAEL WILL BLAST THEM TO PIECES.
35. #9 fadi
v. n.y. ,   usa   (11.12.06)
why? why should a moderate arab leader that may not support hizbullah/syria/iran's influence in his government resign? why sohuld a moderate leader who wants his country out of the dark ages resign? why should a leader that wants peace and a border between himself and iran/syria resign? maybe you should resign from the ynet talkback forum because, really fadi, you are stupid, not well read, not intelligent in the least, you seem to be a moron....and most scary, you support terrorism.!
36. @ #35
Kais ,   Qatar   (11.12.06)
it is Israel that does not want peace unless of course the Arabs accept peace according to Israel's demands and conditions. You can shove an unbalanced peace treaty up your stinky Israeli ass and we will help you with it by placing this treaty on a KATUSHA rocket ! Seniora unlike Nassrallah failed the bravery and aspiration of the Lebanese people and that is why he MUST Resign. Get into your stupid brains Pro Zionists: Lebanese, Arabs and Muslims are not afraid of you anymore. They will resisst Israeli injustice. Hezbollah got stronger after the war and its image has been on rise througout the ME. Hezbollah became even a symbol of progress for people who lost thier homes in New Orleans after Katerina. quote from an American on radio "Where is the federal gov. ? We need Hezbollah to get things actualy done and moving over here. My gov. is doing shit for me and I still have no place to stay at while my house is not being rebuild!
37. Wake up Lebanese!
Enough   (11.12.06)
This war happened bcoz of Hezbollah wanting to destroy Lebanon. If all these women and children were murdered you have to ask Nasrallah why? I'm Lebanese and i dont want to have the syrians back! Aren't u disgusted yet from them. Why can't we have a free Lebanon where we could enjoy our relations with the neighboring countries like any normal; country. I wish i could go to Israel on a weekend as i would love to go to Syria on a trip. But i can't do both as i strongly believe that Syria is Lebanon's ennemy # 1 before Israel. So please, wake up Lebanese and drop your ties with Syria and Iran, and IDF for God sake next time you want to have war with Lebanon make sure THIS TIME to get rid of Nasrallah and his militia.
38. to all of you retards from both sides
whathef??? ,   NYC USA   (11.12.06)
First to the israelis, let go of your superiority thinking and only then will the middle east stop considering you as an abscess nation; a foreign body that is causing inflamation and unrest since it was created. The logic says that if israel hasnt known a single day of peace for it*s f@#-ing 58 years of existence, it's for a good reason, force will never give you peace and a calm conscience, If you want peace make it with the people and not the governments, for so far you have nothing to be proud of, your military superiority is only a reflection of our country's infinite donations to yours and our annual 5 billion intravenous nutrition wich is keeping you alive . I have no problem paying this money from my taxes even though i dont identify myself with israel's policy or causa existensia to start with, but i am not willing to make my child pay for your tanks so you jerks better start founding a country, a true nation, that is accepted by its neighbours, for non of the 2 peace treaties that you have signed in the past half a century are true and durable. Otherwise it's not worth it bragging about what you accomplished cause all i see is mass immigration, stealing and mass murders, there you have my point of view Second for the retards that are still following retard leaders who havent met with a computer or read a book besides the coran in the arabicand muslim world, it's time to grow up and look unto the future and stop burying your heads in the glories of the army of islam and other retarded stuff that dont even fit the 18th century, not mentioning the 21st, yes you had your time of glory, you contributed to human evolution , but guess what : that was the 14 th century, you are 600 years late so make haste, and please stop wearing these long robes and growing beards for if human evolution created pants and razor blades it's for a good purpose, it's easier to get work done with, imagine going to work everyday with those table sheets and curtains wrapped around you, not very practical. And to you my reader, obviously you are educated for you are reading a language that is not yours, u managed to connect to the internet and to find your way here, So let me ask you a question, arent you thankful for the internet? and who invented it? so stop saying you dont need the west, you do, most of the drugs and surgeries that cure your diseases were invented here, So now is the time to ask yourself the question of why you are following the retards in iran and syria, is it for the good they brought mankind? what good, just give me one good thing that came out of their rotten jellabas. The islamic revolution? Another way of delaying man and woman equality and delaying the progress and education of an entire people? If you like it this way dont impose it on others, for if you want to follow these countries give other people that share the land called lebanon with you the chance to express themselves, otherwise i am afraid you are too dumb to know what's best for you and decisions will have to be taken on your behalf, there i said it... u are all a bunch of retards, keep up with the rest of us please... i need a cigarette you make me sick, stupid retards in arabia and arrogant dumbasses in the holy land... and the worse is that i am paying for a show i never wanted to watch in the first place...
39. #36
v. n.y. ,   usa   (11.12.06)
please read # 37 talkback. seems she's right on the mark. 100% correct....and this coming from a lebanese person. by the way, the reason hizbullah is giving $$$$iranian money to all those who lost their homes is not because they care or love them so much. it is to generate more support, and possibly recruit more children and teenagers to go on jihadi suicide missions for nasralah. you idiot. you can live in a progressive democratic country under siniora without any syrian/ iranian involvement. but you choose not to. amazing! hizbullah is using you!!!! it buys your support with money, but gives you misery instead. and they are not an army or a resistance. they are cowardly terrorist mafia thugs spported by an insane iranian monkey and armed by a stupid dr. from syria. wake up. you will never be able to eliminate us. not bevcause we are superior to you militaristically, but because our love of life is so strong....much stronger than your wish for death. if the nazis didn't do away with us, do you think a bunch of rag heads can? get serious! you are living in a dream world hassan! and about new orleans, as sad as this event was and my relatives also evacuated from there, this man said it in jest. it was a joke....a poor joke on nasrallah himself buying the lebanese so they can support him. tell your buddy nasrallah to leave lebanon. no one there needs him except south beirut. most lebanese would love to see him dead and gone and they know thathis time is limited here on earth because of israel. be careful what you wish for. you arabs have a tendency for magic carpet and 1000 arabian nights dreams and tales. this is reality. on this reality poll, your threats and your strength are nil....unimportant to the world!
40. #38
v. n.y. ,   usa   (11.12.06)
although i may not agree with you regarding israel never wanting peace with the arab nations on its border....refer to the camp david-taba peace deal that barrak offered arafat together with clinton and negotiated by prince bandar from saudi arabia....98% of all territories back, east jerusalem back, 30 million dollars in aid. ARAFAT REFUSED because he knew that should he accept the deal (the best deal ever....on the arab terms as well), he would have come back to gaza in a body bag. the extremists among his government would have assasinated him for accepting and negotiating with their enemy israel. ok, no more...as to your other comments about israelis feel superior. no, they don't. we are just damn proud what we have achieved in all walks of life, medicine, technology, computers, cell phones, literature, science, phisical sciences, drugs, etc...etc... etc... which all the world and particularly the usa are benefiting from. we have a lot to be proud for all these aceivements in just 59 years, especially when you compare us to other countries that are so much older than we are. you use our computers and cell phones. do you know that? you use our drugs among many, do you know that? yes, israelis are arrogant and it is indeed a really nausiating behavior, but, what the hell. americans can be nausiating too. and the muslims, well....nothing to say here about their behavior that was not said before. what i loved about your talkback is the second part...it was hilarious! you should be a stand up comic. you are truly gifted!
41. #39 u have a hole in ur brain or something to
fadi ,   lebanon   (11.12.06)
belive that idiot in #37 is lebanese. To all israelis working undercover here as lebaese or arabs: For the 100th time whenver u wanna post some crap like that in #37 .. just say that u hate syria !!! dont sya that u love israel and u want to visit israel !!! it will blow up ur cover up ! SHHHH this is top secret information
42. #30 US will never let civil war happen cause this time
fadi ,   lebanon   (11.12.06)
hizbullah will take control of whole lebanon in about 3 hours and the last thing the US wants is for hizbullah to be breathing on israels neck again !!!!
43. US and israel want so bad to diasrm hizbullah that not only
fadi ,   lebanon   (11.12.06)
they assassinated harriri, pushed syria out of lebanon, waged a war on lebanon but now they are provoking lebanese against each other
44. u idiots out there! Senior'as government is
fadi ,   lebanon   (11.12.06)
the best government that ull ever have the chance to deal with (i mean the US and israel) So now with Seniora's government gone ... a new government will be formed by hizbullah and his supporters and they will be breathing on israels neck
45. Hezbollah is strong in Arab countries, not in Lebanon
Gabriel ,   Zouk Mikhael   (11.12.06)
Nasrallah will never gain leadership of the Lebanese Govt. The Lebanese are educated enough not to legitimize a paramilitary group to be the sole force in this country. I would say the Sunni Islamic extremists in Tripoli, Saida, some parts of Akkar and Palestinian Refugee Camps (to which Lebanon will NEVER grant its citizenship to, contrary to US and Israel's belief and will) are far more backward and violent than the Shiite community. What could Hezbollah do (not to talk about pathetic Lahoud who should be subject to street protests toward Baabda, in order to resign) in order to cause a Civil War??? Shoot at Christians?? That would be senseless.
46. FADI YA FADI
(11.12.06)
NASRALLAH WILL PARTICIPATE IN MONDAY'S DEMONSTRATION DUE TO SECURITY REASON HE WILL BE DISGUISED http://www.ouwet.com/n10452/humor/nasrallah-will-participate-in-mondays-demo/
47. Fadi you are soooo
Enough   (11.13.06)
stupid! For your info i'm lebanese more than you are, coz i want Lebanon for the Lebanese and not like your traitor Nasrallah who wants to offer it to Syria and Iran. So "sid bouzak we bala habbal ba'a!" For the non-lebanese speakers iasked him to shut his mouth up and stop acting stupid, in pure Lebanese!
48. dear v.n.y usa
whathef??? ,   NYC USA   (11.15.06)
i never meant to be funny, i am just pissed off at the way things are going in this beautiful part of the world, u know what, erase that, the whole world is beautiful, and add to it, for the past 60 years, which is a lot of time believe me i am in my late twenties and it seems like an eternity so far :) But it's always the guys who are not trying to be funny that are found hilarious, i guess that's just the way showbiz works... As for the part where you didnt like my comments about israel, i really made a point and you couldnt take it, nobody , from the USA to Khazakhstan (the movie shows it to be a country of whores and idiots, Borat is a stupid movie aimed at a stupid audience i dont recommend for anyone to see it, but now all of you are going to see it cause i didnt recommend it, it's human curiosity cant help it i know), has the right to be arrogant, for even the eskimos have contributed their part in human evolution, you see the difference btw you and me is that you consider yourself to be jew first, israeli second, american third... and the list goes on, while i consider myself to be human first and last. My god, my country and my origins are my goddamn business and i dont consider mself superior because of it. You see, anthropologically speaking, the jews are claiming that they were the subject of persecution for over 2000 years now, well to me the reason people have been persecuting jews for all this time is a curse, this curse is the term :"chosen people", for once you have attributed that to yourself and believed it, keep it to yourself and dont go bragging about it. What did you expect the rest of the world to think, that they are not-chosen people? cause they are not good enough, by birth that is, or even better, by blood (some jewish myth that suggests that you are only jewish by the mother's blood and placenta ), that is the most stupid thing i have ever heard, it's worse than mohamed telling his followers to f@#k 3 or 4 women if they are fair to each one of them. But anyway keep preaching this chosen thing and the rest of the world will keep persecuting you cause they cant tolerate your arrogance and that you really see them as inferior , by the way what is goyem? i know it's me but am i bad? Anyways guys i dont give a damn about all this, the wrld is not gona change tomorrow and stupid religious retards are gona exist on both sides, meanwhile i will try to live life and enjoy it, try doing the same and good luck (obviously it's not working for me cause here i am reading this stupid article for the 2nd time)
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