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UK's Blair to urge Syria, Iran to help in Middle East
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Published: 13.11.06, 02:57
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1. Who is he kidding?
Media Critic ,   USA   (11.13.06)
is he serious or just kidding? He is more like sarcastic. Well, if he is serious then this must be a strategic maneuver to be view as a peace broker, or should I say breaker.
2. Blair seeks to appease
AK   (11.13.06)
Looks like another 'peace in our time' deal, complements of Britain. There goes that myth of European superior education -- Brits haven't learnt a thing from history and are. BTW, there is no Palestine, the only Palestine was Roman and European creation -- never Arab, never Jewish.
3. C'mon Blair. They're drooling over the Land of Israel
malcolm   (11.13.06)
Brits are so humorous. Like hungry wolves Tehran & Damascus are both licking their chops and salivating at the prospect of destroying Israel.
4. This is the good outcome of Iraq invasion!
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5. LAND for WAR: Muslim Professor Explains PEACE
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (11.13.06)
The planned transfer by U.S. EU and Israeli leaders of the Jewish ancestral homeland of Biblical Judea and Samaria to Islam as a reward for barbarism and mass murder of Jews is an unprecedented attack on the foundation of Western civilization and the Laws of G-D upon which our civilization is based. The Global Islamic Terror State will reduce Israel at mid-section to 9 miles wide, indefensible Auschwitz borders advancing global jihad's unopposed march to world conquest and Jewish annihilation. Addressing a youth session at the 1999 Islamic Association for Palestine's annual convention in Chicago, CAIR founder Omar Ahmad praised suicide bombers who "kill themselves for Islam," http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52184 In Islam, Israel, the U.S. and all countries that are not Muslim, are regarded as Dar al-Harb - the House of War - to be conquered for Islam. Bassam Tibi, a Muslim professor at Goettingen University in Germany, exlained in a speech that for Muslims 'peace' is the entire world under Islamic rule. "Both sides should acknowledge candidly that although they might use identical terms these mean different things to each of them," he said. "The word 'peace,' for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam -- or 'House of Islam' -- to the entire world. This is completely different from the Enlightenment concept of eternal peace that dominates Western thought." Only when the entire world is a Dar al-Islam will it be a Dar a-Salam, or "House of Peace." Global jihad to subjugate all of humanity under Muslim masters is fought inside our nations via diplomacy, deception and violence - a merciless world where human rights and freedom will be utterly destroyed. Council on American-Islamic Relations: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." - Omar Ahmad (CAIR co-founder). STOP Inciting Children to Kill ! http://www.teachkidspeace.com/flash.php http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse
6. FIGHTING "OCCUPATION" of Europe : INFIDELS Not Welcome
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (11.13.06)
Alija Izetbegovic stated in the ISLAMIC DECLARATION that: - "there can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions"; http://www.balkanpeace.org/cib/bos/bosi/bosi01.html Global jihad to subjugate all of humanity under Muslim masters is fought inside our nations via diplomacy, deception and violence. Desperate and bloody battles were fought in Europe in the past against merciless Muslim invaders: Clash of civilizations: Battle of Lepanto revisited "Conflict along the fault line between Western and Islamic civilizations has been going on for 1,300 years." Islam advanced under the sword conquering North Africa, Sicily, Spain, Portugal and parts of France. Twice "the forces of Islam laid siege to Vienna. For 1,000 years, Islam advanced and Christendom retreated," http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52338 In response to the 1,400 years of continual Islamic striving for global conquest, does the EU plan to initiate a peace process and offer Muslims half of Europe? The U.S. EU UN demand that half of the Jewish Holy Land is surrendered to Islam. Eurabian Nightmares By Andrew G. Bostom FrontPageMagazine.com | March 13, 2006 While Europe Slept chronicles Bawer's personal encounter with Europe's ongoing Islamization since late 1998... France is already 12% Muslim and Switzerland 20%... Already, in most of Western Europe, 16 to 20 percent of children are Muslims...within a couple of generations many [Western European] countries will have Muslim majorities. ...a Danish Muslim leader, typical of many European imams, declared triumphally in 2000, “Muslims have a dream of living in an Islamic society…This dream will surely be fulfilled in Denmark…We will eventually be a majority”. And such demography is already destiny in Islamic satellite colonies interspersed throughout Western Europe where demands for sovereignty began well before the recent Muslim intifada in France this past fall, 2005. In France, a public official met with an imam at the edge of Roubaix's Muslim district out of respect for his declaration of the neighborhood as Islamic territory to which she had no right of access. In Britain, imams have pressed the government to officially designate certain areas of Bradford as being under Muslim, not British, law. In Denmark, Muslim leaders have sought the same kind of control over parts of Copenhagen. And in Belgium, Muslims living in the Brussels neighborhood of Sint-Jans-Molenbeek already view it not as part of Belgium but as an area under Islamic jurisdiction in which Belgians are not welcome. These burgeoning Muslim communities are also consuming disproportionate amounts of state sponsored welfare benefits. For example, Danish Muslims comprise 5% of the population, yet they receive 40% of the governmental outlays... ...the social workers themselves are often tyrannized by their Muslim clients. Bawer describes the chilling situation in Denmark: Some clients lay waste to social security offices and hit social workers... Bawer further documents how Norwegian (Oslo) imams preach brazenly that Muslims should expect such welfare benefits-and feel justified in supplementing them by stealing from stores-as a form of jizya* extracted from their infidel "host" societies-societies that have not yet accepted their requisite subservience to Islamic Law! http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21609 The military religion of Islam intends to conquer the world: An authoritative Muslim stated: "Thanks to your democratic laws we will invade you; thanks to our religious laws we will dominate you." http://www.meforum.org/article/448
7. Moderates SEEK Israel's DESTRUCTION
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (11.13.06)
There is no greater prize in global jihad than Israel - for thousands of years the cherished physical and spiritual Holy Land of Jews and spiritual Holy Land of Christians. Islamists attack London, Madrid, Beslan, Israel, India, Bali, New York and not a single Muslim street demonstration from the more than one billion Muslims to protest the barbaric attacks on our cities that murdered thousands. The cruel, global Islamic war waged against innocent humanity threatens to destroy Western civilization and laws that protect the innocent. Colonization of our nations by Muslims is massive. Many Muslims are ethical and believe in human rights; however, large numbers of Muslims living in our countries want Sharia law - Islam is intolerant of all other religons and political systems and will not tolerate other religions and political systems in Europe - Israel - or anywhere else. The military religion of Islam intends to conquer the world and subjugate all nations under Muslim masters. An authoritative Muslim stated: "Thanks to your democratic laws we will invade you; thanks to our religious laws we will dominate you." http://www.meforum.org/article/448 New York Post HOPING ISRAEL CAN BE DEFEATED By URIEL HEILMAN September 3, 2006 -- AMMAN, JORDAN ... "We had given up on the military option. We believed this belonged to history," Hani Hourani, director general of the Al-Urdun Al-Jadid ("New Jordan") Research Center, told me the other day in his office. "By taking the initiative, Hezbollah created a new way of thinking about the whole conflict in the region: Israel is not that invincible. It could be beaten. It could be harmed." "Even people like me, the moderate people, who never liked or supported Hezbollah, we began to think twice about how we were wrong," Hourani said. "Hezbollah, even if we don't agree with its ideology, was suggesting a different option to the Arab people." Renewed optimism about confronting Israel by force of arms isn't limited to the anti-Western masses. It's growing among the Arab world's moderates... "This month-long war changed an entire generation," Samir Barhoum, editor of the Jordan Times, an English-language daily, told me. "Hezbollah is a legitimate resistance group fighting occupation." Why are Arabs with business and political ties to the West, and even to Israel, jumping on the Hezbollah bandwagon?... But if Israel can be beaten, then the whole equation changes... Moderation may be giving way to the hope that the clock in the Middle East can be turned back not just to 1967 - before Israel controlled the Golan Heights and West Bank - but to 1948, when Israel did not exist. "The Arabs want the 1967 border for the moment - listen to me: for the moment," said Abdel Mahdi Al- Soudi, a sociology professor at the University of Jordan. "This will change." The Arabs may sign peace treaties, Al-Soudi said, but "nobody will sign on to end the conflict. Nobody will sign something saying Israel will be Israel forever."... STOP Inciting Children to Kill ! http://www.teachkidspeace.com/flash.php http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse
8. 5,6,7 Linda Rivera won't answer my question
(11.13.06)
Do Jews who don't believe in Jesus go to heaven? Is that what you are saying? Yes or No? You can quote all of the verses you want, but that does not answer my question. Of course God is the judge, but you suggest that I just wait until I stand before Him and find out. An odd, uncertain set of beliefs you have, but my question still waits. My "agenda" is simple: to get an answer to a simple question from you. A question which you refuse to answer directly. And the more you dodge it, the more suspicious I become.
9. Middles east to blair: f*** off
fadi ,   lebanon   (11.13.06)
10. Go and take ur soldiers from iraq b4 talking u moron !!
fadi ,   lebanon   (11.13.06)
11. Soon UK and US will be begging syria and iran to help
fadi ,   lebanon   (11.13.06)
them curb attacks against their soldiers in iraq !!
12. this is the dream scenario of Iran and syria:
fadi ,   lebanon   (11.13.06)
having UK and US soldiers as sitting ducks in between them. Bush and his neo cons thought iraqis will welcome them with roses. That they are going to offer them iraqi oil for free and iran will syria they will be so scared that they will just give the US everything it wants. Damnn they were so naive !
13. '7 "moderates seeks Israel's destruction"
Rustum ,   London, UK   (11.13.06)
The whole tenor of the poster is so absurd that it is almost a waste of time to respond to Rivera, who constantly tries to force yet more death and bloodshed on the middle east. "Moderates seek Israel's destruction" - I don't think the woman can think in anything but ultra-simplistic and blood-curdling slogans. Let's all start a petition - Rivera to receive lessons in humanity, Rivera to shut up her tragically sad mouth for a few days. How Kafkaesque to take the word "moderates" and to equate it with "extremists". A classic Stanlinist tactic to redefine words to suit one's own meaning. Give us all a break Rivera, queen of the cut and paste, queen of the pathetic simplistic and murderous sloganeering. Your slogans are as ludicrous and as blood-thirsty as that famous German slogan over the death camp gates, or the slogans I saw in Nicosia "War = Peace". You have spouted nonsense and bored everyone to death for years now. Moreoever, not one single thing you have said actually adds to any debate. Now, how would you like to address the issue of peace with Syria bringing a potential sea of tranquility to the region and an end to bloodshed? I'm sure your intellect won't let you deal with the idea of peace (or perhaps you'll answer it with "PEACE = DEATH" or some such total rubbish). Jeez, you bore me and everyone else here.
14. AK
Rustum ,   London, UK   (11.13.06)
"Brits haven't learnt a thing from history" - well, that might be correct - but it seems odd coming from a person who says "there is no Palestine"... I think that you, dear person, have also learnt not a thing from history, or at least the convoluted attempted that you, and some other misled people, attempt to pervert and corrupt history by the constant repetition of your worthless mantra.
15. British foreign policy
Laura ,   London, UK   (11.13.06)
how on earth can Syria and Iran help with peace in the middle east other than to re-invent themselves as peace-loving democrats. In reality both Syria and Iran are nothing more than 'dogs of war' whose only contribution so far is to seek peace in the middle east via destruction of Israel. The suggestion is so ludicrous that it must have been thought up by one of the 'camel corps' which makes up the majority of the foreign office.
16. #15 British foreign policy
Rustum ,   London, UK   (11.13.06)
So blinded are you by your hatred of Syria and Iran, you simply cannot see that "the dogs of war" are actually based in Haqirya. For all their repressive internal policies, neither Syria nor Iran have unleased mass death from the air upon their neighbours in the way that your idol state Israel has. Also for you to think that the Foreign Office is staffed by members of "the camel corps" is simply a further sign of your prejudices. So strange - whenever things are not going 100% perfect for the state of Israel, you Zionos blame everything except the policies of the state of Israel - it's either endemic anti-semitism, the camel corps, the Arab lobby, etc, etc - but god forbid you should take a look at the racist, supremacist and militarist policies of the knesset. No - Israel never makes any mistakes, does it. Never bombs civilian homes, never razes refugee camps (why are the refugees there in any case?), never buys stolen information from spies in the US, never assassinates its interlocutors.
17. If the Middle East is a desolate “Oil Dry” desert
Media Critic ,   USA   (11.14.06)
will any of these issues matters? Most definitely not. On another note, democratizing the Middle East is like trying to straighten a screw that wends in crooked, the only way this can be done is by removing the screw and starting a new hole. For US and UK to succeed in democratizing Iraq it will take them a couple of generations with a lot of hard work. good luck Blair.
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