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Israelis in Budapest: We live in fear
Miri Chason
Published: 13.11.06, 23:52
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1. At hungrian football games u hear anti-semitic chants.
Judith ,   Budapest   (11.14.06)
2. WHAT JEWS ARE DOING IN THOSE HORRIBLE ANTI-SEMITIC COUNTRIES
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3. DOES TOMMY LAPID STILL CONSIDER HIMSELF A "EUROPEAN GENTLEMA
bill handel ,   brooklyn, usa   (11.14.06)
MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR tOMMY TO BECOME A jEW!
4. The no. of Hungarian Jews in London has increased the last 3
Hendon   (11.14.06)
5. Welcome to Galut!
Asylum Aleikum ,   Guantanamo Bay, Cuba   (11.14.06)
6. Hungary Jews, come back home
David ,   Israel   (11.14.06)
Why would one live under such circumstances. What's so good about Hungary anyways. Israel has some of the best universities and IS OUR HOME!
7. Well...
Phinias Woppy ,   By the Sea, USA   (11.14.06)
Why don't they go home to Israel if they're so worried about their safety? It is obvious that the Hungarians want them there as much as the Israelis want Arabs in their country.
8. But weren't antisemitism supposed to be related to the ME?
Ignacio ,   Zaragoza, Spain   (11.14.06)
Hah! Welcome to the real Europe. Whenver you think that by making any concession to the Pals, you are buying some support, remember this episode. Moral: leave those who does not want you behind, forget concessions and stay with those of us who loves you. I am not Jewish and I am ashamed of being European.
9. Anti semitism in Eastern Europe....
Miriam G.B. Jakubowi ,   USA   (11.14.06)
AS I READ THIS ARTICLE, ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT WERE THE SEVERE ATROCITIES MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY SUFFERED DURING THE HOLOCAUST. UNFORTUNATELY, EASTERN EUROPE HAS NOT LEARNED FROM HISTORY. FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN G-D'S CHOSEN PEOPLE FIRST, AND AS HISTORY HAS SHOWN, EVERYONE ELSE TO FOLLOW!!!!!!!
10. what goes around comes around!
Shlomo   (11.14.06)
11. But where is Sorros, the benefactor of Eastern Europe?
Moshe   (11.14.06)
12. To #11
Ramallah Mahdingdong   (11.14.06)
Soros is getting his checkbook out, ready to use it to start influencing Nancy Pelosi.
13. Ahhhhh; the good old Islamic Spain
Media Critic ,   USA   (11.14.06)
The only time Jews flourished and prospered was under Islamic Spain for two hundred years. During the 11th and 12th centuries the Jewish population in Islamic Spain reached its point of greatest prosperity, intellectual energy and well-being, coinciding with Cordoba's greatest moment in history. Cordoba was the star of western Europe, a center for prosperity, commerce and learning in the midst of the so-called Dark Ages.. When the very light of civilization flickered among poverty and ignorance to the north, Cordoba's paved streets were illuminated with street lighting. The Jewish community thrived under the religious tolerance of Islamic Spain, and contributed actively to its prosperity and intellectual energy. Hasday ben Shaprut, the governor of the Jewish community, became an influential minister to the Islamic Spain Government, increasing his people's well-being and turning Cordoba into the most significant center of Jewish learning and culture in the world, taking the place of the Babylonian School.
14. Still hungry for Hungary?
Sam ,   NY USA   (11.14.06)
My parents were holocausrtsurvivors from Hungary. Most of their family were killed. I've visited there,nice place,but anti-semites always rear their ugly heads. Read Jewish european history;this is a continuation of the last couple of thousand years.Probably will just continue on. I am making Aliyah to Israel next month.
15. well, the European right & left agree on one thing: jew hate
they both hate us. ,   lovely Europe.   (11.14.06)
16. Hungary
Yisraeli   (11.14.06)
Both my parents came from Hungary and I speak the lingo. As a child we often went there on holidays, even tho my parents lost most of theyre families there. A few years ago I took my eldest son on a heritage trip there, to show all the sites that were relavant to our family history. It was meant as a pass the yoke to the next generation. On our final night, I took him for a walk along the danube and said to him "My son no matter how pleasant the surroundings may be or even how friendly the people here seem to be remember one thing along the banks we are now walking thousands of our fellow Jews were murdered and thrown in the danube from here by local goyim. To save bullets they tied 2 family members together shot 1 and dumped them in the river so the one shot would drag the other to drown. I said this is the very last time I am coming here but thought I ought to show you what my parents showed me". Jews have no place in europe whatsoever. We Jews should and must learn from the past and never forget. Jews should leave Hungary, France, Belgium, Germany, Spain, Norway, Sweden, Holland, no matter where in europe Jews shud divest themselves from there for ever. Europe had rivers of Jewish blood running there. Its a cursed place for Jews and a cursed place for the others without the Jews. Get the hell out of there before their hell comes to visit you!
17. Incomprehensible
Betsy ,   USA   (11.14.06)
Are Jews hated because of something that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago, or what? Please, someone, explain the antisemtism. I am not Jewish, but I love Jews. Meanwhile, Islamic terrorists are trying to kill everyone in sight, including themselves.
18. Europe and antisemitism
Jorge ,   Tegucigalpa   (11.14.06)
Only in Europe, I repeat, only in Europe, extermination camps could have existed, as a follow up, remenber Serbia and Bosnia
19. This is NOT antisemitism at all!
george ,   beirut, lebanon   (11.14.06)
Lets face it, Israel isnt a popular country at all especially these days and after the last Lebanon war. Dont expect to be treated with alot of love when all u get on the news is Israel murdering kids with cluster bombs here and there. Makes sense no? Its not anti-semitic, its just a natural reaction to a country that is being a bully to those all around it. Oh, and Besty, are u related to Daisy by any chance?
20. Same old
The Raccoon   (11.14.06)
It's been the same for as long as the Galut. Face it, people - the "international community" would rather see us in Auschwitz than in Tel-Aviv. They hate us for being Jews, and there is nothing we can do to change this. No amount of pathetic, bootlicking American Court Jews and especially no amount of timid, snivelling European Jewish dhimmis groveling before the big scary Goyim. As a secular Israeli Jew who has lived all over the world, I'm telling you - there is no other place for us. At least here, we can die with a gun in our hands and be buried with honors.
21. #19 you didn't read the whole article, did you?
Zvi ,   USA   (11.14.06)
Read it again, George. This isn't about Israelis. This is about Jews. Welcome to the real world. Anti-Semitism existed in Europe long before 1948 -- obviously. It has existed in the world for well over 2000 years. For a little while in the late 20th century, anti-Semitism and racism in general seemed to be becoming less overt and ideologies that promoted peaceful diversity were in the ascendent. For 60 years, Israel grew and flourished, and with that growth came a reduction in the power of the ideologies of madness. It's clear that ideologies of terror are getting worse again, but this is not because of Israel. To understand where these things come from, you need to look at which countries and groups are now gaining power, influence and media attention. You should also note that far-right-wing Europeans are not your friends either, though you seem to think so. They are not friends of Lebanese people or Palestinian people, or of Muslim people or of Arab people in general. If the Jews go under -- again -- it will be a very bad sign for the Muslims of Europe. So stop gloating. You just show your ignorance.
22. #13 some people don't wanna hear that
1.5 billion Muslims   (11.14.06)
#13 mentained some point that u do not hear the media today , every body have to go back the history of the European Jews and How they survived and the role Muslim played saving European Jews from eradication , istead of listening right wing Manipulation u should read Max I. Dimont 's Book JEWS, GOD AND HISTORY and u may learn some thing about the History of Jews people . Reality Check , World
23. Nothing like a goy to kick siome sense into a Jew
Al ,   Canada   (11.14.06)
I have lived with the goyim here in Canada my entire life. Save for some trips to Israel I have always lived here. The point being I dont know what it is to live amongst Jews only. If I want to see Jews at their best I can. If I want to see them at their worst I can always attend Shabbos Kiddush when there is a buffet. Calm down Kidos, I am kidding, I love you all now get to the back of the bus. The point being I live in a free democtratic society where there are laws against racist behaviour. Those laws are upheld. Europe is a cesspool of murdered Jews where every friggin rock has been covered with our blood. Its time Jews left there. Where? I dont know, but I would suggest Canada Australia. America will become a non white country in less than 30 years. The chances for Jews there will not be that great. Canada is a free open society that is big like the world, frozen to keep the scum off the street for 7 months and the air is clean and fresh. And finally we brew the best damn beer in the free world. Molson and Moosehead..Now thats Canadian. Also if you never seen the Canadians or the Leafs having a hockey game you've never seen hockey. Thats right ! Canada the land of Beer and Hockey. I love my shicker goyim. I feel blessed.
24. #19, george, are you trying to make lebanese look stupid?
dante ,   uk   (11.14.06)
of course, george doesn't know the facts. but, he has his opinions and his hate. but even a hateful, confused, and ignorant clown should know that, even if all his insane charges against Israel were true, it would not justify attacks upon individuals unconnected to the purported misconduct. any civilised person knows that. but not george.
25. L'Chayim to the Racoon
Sam ,   NJ USA   (11.14.06)
Right on. You succinctly said it all. I am making Aliyah next month. I want to help Israel remain strong and a viable home for Jews.Our two -faced friends of the world in the long run can't be trusted. There are wonderful non-Jews who stick by us,but most won't.I too,would rather die in Israel than by the hand of our anti-semites,as my family did in the Holocaust.
26. #17 betsy
v. n.y. ,   usa   (11.14.06)
i am jewish and an israeli too. you asked a question that EVERY JEW in the world asks himself for thousands of years. i can't explain it myself. i can't explain how a civilized nation such as germany in 1939 could have committed such systematic planned atrocities. why do people around the world, the most civilized of them still harbor hateful feelings towards jews but do not say them outloud. i think the only reason is JEALOUSY and the envy of our survival, togetjerness and acheivements. it's hard for me to reduce this mere explanation, but i am at a loss to find another. we just stand out for some reason. we don't look or act differently. we assimilate and obey rules and laws wherever we live. we contribute to the communities we live in, we are charitable not only to jewish causes. we give to humanity in the fields of science, technology, medicine and quality of life inventions, etc... we have built our own land from sweat, tears and jewish blood to have it attacked again and again. europe blames us, the arabs blame us, the un blames us, africa blames us, etc.... and for what? for having a tiny jewish state that can go into the state of texas 25 times??? others say that we bring it upon ourselves because....."look everyone everywhere hates the jews. they must be doing something wrong. not everyone can be wrong. they are causing this hate". people hate us because despite what the world threw in our faces, we survived and progressed beautifully. no matter what tragedies came our way, we held our heads up high and came out better for it. this tenacity and love of life is a very stubborn streak in us jews. something that can be extremely frustrating to those that wish us harm and death. frustration and jealousy=hate!
27. #17 why?
Yisraeli   (11.14.06)
Anti semitism or anti Jew has been around a long time to the point where its no longer a symptom but a disease of the mind, a mind poisoned. There are many reason, scapegoating, jealousy and many combinations of the worst of human conditioning. But to go to the source, I guess you have to go back to the founding of the christian church. Catholic dogma have poisoned the wells for many centuries. From theyre perspective the Jew was an anathema. Here they christians/catholics accepted or appointed themselves a god, a Jew nontheless. The church took over the 'salvation' of mankind thru this individual. The church built themselves a strong power base declaring your all damned to eternal fire of hell unless you go thru me the church/jesus for salvation. It was great business. All the illiterate and peasantry flocked for their salvation handing over monies of course to the church. But the Jew remained an enigma, they wouldnt accept the church let alone jesus as theyre god or saviour. So...the reasoning goes, how can GOD allow the continued existence of the Jews. They should have been wiped out by God no? As long as the Jew existed it was not only a thorn on the church but undermined its credibility. So the hounding of the Jew became official dogma of the church. Saying amongst many things they are cursed by God so therefore we must continue 'Gods' work and either convert the Jew or eradicate theyre existence from amongst us. So started anti semitism, the continued persecution of the Jew only because he was a Jew. The "Holy" Inquisition of the church only further exaserbated the eradication of the Jew. Throughout Europe the catholic church preyed on the Jew for century after century. Indocrinated the flock to hate Jews even if they never saw one let alone know how they even look. And so the churches legacy continues even with theyre regret. Millions of Poles hate Jews without even knowing who they are, same with many Hungarians mostly uneducated peasants. Its already part of theyre collective culture and has now morphed to a disease of the mind. All this gave rise even to the likes of Martin Luther who founded Luthernism. And theyre is no doubt it all gave condion and placid support for the ultimate holocaust of the Jews just some 60 yrs ago. yet even so this psychological disease still festers and comes to fore every now and then. israel has nothing to do with this equation. Only the continued hate of the Jew excuses itself for hate of 'zionism' or Israel. In the end only a strong powerfull Israel who may be a beacon of light to the world will ever change this course. So far Israel has yet a long way to go to acheive this goal, but it will come perhaps only through more fire but it will come.
28. #13 and #22
Yisraeli   (11.14.06)
whilst theres no denying the period of enlightenment and co-operation of the Jews and Muslims in the times of BERBER Spain. Even since theyre expulsion by Ferdinand and Isabella, these times were never to be repeated. Perhaps a bit of tolerance even with dhimmi status. But thats all long gone. Jews were expelled from most countries of Islam. Only Morroco and Turkey has tolerance for them. So please dont give the false impression of the muslims saving Jews. On the contrary is the truth. Grand Mufti Husseini openly collaberated with Hitler in seeking the genocide of the Jews. And it hasnt changed much in the arab world today. We Jews are just vermin like apes and monkies to be eradicated. Make no mistake muslims, Cordoba was a long time ago. Mein Kampf the most widely read book in the arab world today alongside the anti jew protocols of the elders of zion. Where are your Jews and Synagogues arab world? Saudi and all the emirates none, zero, nadah. Jordan zero. Lebanon zero. Iraq practically zero. Iran living under fear and diminishing now around 20.000. From once maybe 400.000. Syria maybe 8000 also living under fear and refused exit visas. So dont you dare try and portray yourselves as saviours of Jews. As your Quran says"Even the rock will cry out saying theres a jew hiding behind me come and kill him". End.
29. George #13 Lebanon started the War
Semsem ,   New York, USA   (11.14.06)
George Lebanon started the war. You are a Christian in Lebanon and you should watch your back. You now represent 30% of the Lebanese down from 50% 50 years ago. Nassralah wants you to leave. Wake up.
30. #28 if we get along that time , who said we can not get alon
1.5 billion Muslims   (11.14.06)
is in't beutful when cousins can live peace beside each other , what Ibrahim may God place him say his grave ,when he hears the decandant of his sons Isaq and Ismail want Terminate each other . reality check . world
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