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Israelis mourn Gaza deaths
Moran Rada
Published: 16.11.06, 00:02
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1. Read THE FATAH CHARTER!!!
(11.16.06)
Read FATAH CHARTER http://www.fateh.net/e_public/constitution.htm What does it say in Article 7/12/13/17/19 STOP THE MEDIA, OLMERT, CONDI, BUSH FROM LEGITIMIZING FATAH They are giving arms and milions to Abu Mazen. And thats only the beginning..... Expose Fatah
2. ISRAELI Singular not Plural - Another Ynetism
(11.16.06)
A citizen not Israelis which designates the entire population. What is to be sorry for, insolents, do you know their life story? We are in a war, a WAR its our lives or theirs. Will you risk your life for those that want to slice your neck?
3. An offer the Palis can't refuse?
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (11.16.06)
What might that be? A march into the sea by all Jewish Israelis? I'm sure, there'd be complaints that the Jews would be walking too slowly.
4. THE SAME ISRAELIS THAT DON' T MOURN JEWISH DEATHS SHAME ON U
(11.16.06)
5. Thank you my friends.
Mousa-Moshi ,   Human, Palestine   (11.16.06)
This just gives me hope that there are true peaceful people on the other side of Israel's Great Wall. I wish there was no wall so I could come to you, and say "Thanks" face to face. Regards from one of the Palestinian Refugee Camps around Jerusalem. Mousa
6. Typical Galut Mentality Self-Hating Liberal Left Jews
H ,   Jerusalem   (11.16.06)
They should all Go to gAza.
7. These liberals should go to Gaza to help these poor arabs.
Jeremiah ,   Israel, Jewish Land   (11.16.06)
I would suggest that their family members take out a good life insurance policy on them before they go on their mission of peace and love and the rest of that hippy crap.
8. death
george ,   beirut, lebanon   (11.16.06)
This family DIED and most of you talkbackers are still being cold and hateful! When the Germans killed your ancestors they were laughing and making jokes just as you are now...think about how that makes you feel at this very moment. Death is death no matter in what form it came.
9. want to apologize ?
Tom ,   USA   (11.16.06)
Whant to apologize and feel sorry ? Get out of Palestine !
10. civilian deaths
isiaiah   (11.16.06)
the killing of unarmed civilians is was and should always be a war crime . hiding in your own peoples areas by combatants is was and should always be a war crime . the both perpertrators are about equally gulty .
11. #5 - "refugee camp"?
Les ,   NYC USA   (11.16.06)
Interesting how residents of these "refugee camps" have intenet access....not bad, eh?
12. Tears Flowed From My Eyes
Dave Levi ,   Burbank. USA   (11.16.06)
I wonder how American fighting in Europe during WW2 would have reacted if the New York Times published the names of all those German civilians who died during Allied bombings, OR, American families of dead soldiers in Vietnam and Korea had simliar news? Does the PA or their hostile media, publish the names of dead Jews who died in the last crisis? Israel's very left goes too far, and is undermining Israeli security., besides being awfully stupid. The media that allows this should be boycotted by Israelis to send a message.."Don't fool with the enemy".
13. What the Hell
Mordey Cohen ,   Sydney Australia   (11.16.06)
Why are we apologising for these innocent people that were killed. It is like churchill appologising for the killed in Berlin and Dredsen during the Aleid bombings of Germany. They dont appologise for suicide bombs on bused and shopping malls. Why the hell do these terrorists animals place wepons among population. We have done nothing wrong to need to appologise. Enough of this hypocrisy.
14. Good for them!!
Idan ,   New York, USA   (11.16.06)
Im glad that there are Israeli's who have a heart (I know there are much more but unfortunately it is the sane & moderate people who usually never speak up) To #'s 2,4,6,7, what is wrong with you?? why is everything "all or nothing" with you people? Someone cant express sorrow and shame for the killing of innocents who happen to be Palestinians (an entire family!!!) but at the same time also condemn terror attacks against innocent Israeli's and mourn their deaths. Stop your extremist all or nothing approach where if someone shows sympathy for Palestinian human beings they automatically are self-hating leftist Jews. If you cant show sympathy for fellow human beings, then you dont deserve to be called Jews.
15. Good mitzvah
Noam ,   Boca Raton, FL USA   (11.16.06)
Very nice and warming to see Israelis publishing condolences and obituaries in widely-read newspapers. Because we care about human life and do not dance for joy when others are killed. Especially when in tragic error of harsh consequences. On a separate note, if anyone reads Arabic, you can see that the name is "'Uthmani" or the name in Arabic for Ottoman. Does this surname suggest that this particular Palestinian family was of Ottoman descent or Ottoman nobility, maybe not living in Palestine for hundreds of years? Just a thought...
16. Let's check out today's newspapers
Arie ,   Afula   (11.16.06)
and see if the same self-hating Jews placed an obituary for any Sderot victim
17. If Only they expressed such depth of sorrow for Israelis
malcolm   (11.16.06)
18. #7 They are very welcome then they see arab's hospitality
Haroon ,   Gaza City   (11.16.06)
Off course these peaceful people who doesn't come driving tanks, the Palestenian poor people will welcome them and respect them, but when they come as a hatred and racist thieves like settlers and the dump army to protect them, and someone like you, then you better first find good insurance policy, and good luck
19. #6 Some do as the ISM
(11.16.06)
20. Re: Read THE FATAH CHARTER!!!
A. ,   USA   (11.16.06)
The Zionist ideology is that which threatens the Palestinian existence... note that Zionist does not equal Israeli [referring to Article 12]. And lest we look at the Zionist agenda? How favorable is it to Palestinians? Do you expect them to legitimize Zionism and its offspring when it is solely dedicated to the eradication of their being? There are definitely two sides to this coin and I think it is well advised that all of you pay due attention to the Palestinian plight because it IS a tragedy. 70% of them are poverty stricken and 60% are malnutritioned, and they are killed for unnecessary reasons... people do NOT equal politics. Humanity goes before everything, even politics. They have acknowledged your existence, why don't you permit them theirs? Lines should be drawn or removed - and please, let's not trace these territorial lines with barbed wire fences.
21. It is time to learn from Beit Hanoun and stop terror
Fasulia Hudra   (11.16.06)
TERROR HAS EVOLVED FASTER THAN SOCIETY HAS COMPREHENDED OR ADAPTED. Current laws and military strategies have not kept pace with the evolution of warfare especially with respect to terror of the 21st century. Terrorists exploit the humanity, morality, legal systems, and tactical weaknesses of countries to maximize their terrorist impact and corner major powers into submission simply by outlasting them. The Afghans did this to Russia. Iraq defeated USA this way in the first Gulf war. Chechnyans are trying this against Russia. The key to success is to beat the terrorists at their own game. Today the PAL terrorist use the rhetoric of occupation to justify a fallacious argument about their right to resist. This is further spun into justification for Qassam launches, stabbing, driveby shootings, suicide bombings and all other forms of terror. The Qassam launches, which unfortunately killed a 57 year old woman and caused another to lose both legs, has been transformed into a nationalistic symbol of resistance for the PALs. The incursions and specific targeting of terrorists have been subverted to become a rallying point for PAL resistence and vehicle to gain press exposure, sympathy from nations lacking an objective moral compass, and a catalyst for UN debates. Through the chicanery of smoke and mirrors the PAL terrorist try to hide their culpability as the aggressor and initiator or all terror. All IDF efforts to minimize PAL civilian casualites are counter productive. The incursions and targeted assasinations endanger IDF soldiers unnecessarily. The PALs spin it into a David and Goliath battle and try to fool people into believing that the PALs are poor victims instead of victims of their own terror. The PALs are incapable of understanding cause and effect in complex terror and focused counter terror operations. The solution is to dramatically simplify the equation to rocket for rocket and eye for an eye so that the PALs can comprehend it and not be able to spin it for the world. This means that Israel should use low tech highly inaccurate rockets randomly fired in the general vacinity of Qassam launches against Israeli cities and fall where they may. This will create an image of parity instead of the argument of disproportionate force, high tech vs. low tech, and major military army vs. armed militias. All the other tools in the arsenal can be reserved for an emergency contingency plan and deployed when really needed. The argument suddenly becomes dramatically simple and defensible in all quarters: Stop shooting the Qassams at our civilians and we will stop shooting Qassam-like rockets at you. This is so simple that even the PALs can understand it once they suffer enough rockets to their cities. The argument can easily be made in every other forum as well. Ironically the "parity" of weapons turns out to be tactically advantageous to Israel because of population and architectural density differences between Gaza and Israeli targeted cities. In conclusion PAL terrorists will quickly stop firing Qassams when Israel learns to respond in kind.
22. Courage
Vulcan ,   Lebanon   (11.16.06)
Regardless of what some Israelis may think about this gesture coming from an Israeli person in response to that tragedy in Beit Hanoun, I must say I have the utmost respect and admiration for the Israelis for they and I know a large number of them are still humane in their reactions and response to tragedies. as an Arab I know if I publish condolences for Israeli victims of suicide bombers (if I can find a willing or self respecting Arab newspaper to do it) I would be killed by my own people, there are many Arabs I am sure who disagree and feel terrible at the site of innocent Israeli victims of terror but they never have the courage to speak out in condolences or condemnation of such acts.
23. KUDAS TO YOU.............................
mark ,   usa   (11.16.06)
it is people like this guy who should be in the highest public office because with this kind of spirit and concious PEACE can be achieved.may god bless you and support you .tell it like it is.lets stop the bloodshed ,it is not getting us anywhere. shalom!!!!!!!!
24. Beautiful-thanks Israelis
American ,   USA   (11.16.06)
thats what we like to hear- the jews that have compassion for all- not just themsleves. god speed.
25. this'll show the arabs that not everybody rejoices
(11.16.06)
and hands out candy when innocents are killed. Maybe some palestinians will learn from this gesture
26. Beit Hanoun
mike ,   ny,ny   (11.16.06)
It's a shame. Sometimes innocent people get hurt during a war. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT. ISRAEL IS AT WAR, PROVOKED BY THE PA.
27. Killings
eric spiegel ,   hoboken usa   (11.16.06)
What about the murdered palestinians? Are they worth nothing to you? What Nazism i detect from you people.
28. #5 moussa
v. n.y. ,   usa   (11.16.06)
dear moussa. i azm an israedli jew and i can guarantee you that many many more and tyhe idf/iaf do mourn and regret with all their heart the mistake that took place in beit hanoun. if only it were for people like yourself who want and strive for peace and a good quality of life for both sides......if only it was you sitting as prime minister and not haniye or mashaal, or hammas terrorists who wish our death. really sir, for israelis to take an obituary in the israel paper is the hight of democracy and good intent and good wishes and also severe sorrow for your loss. i am sure all these people had children, families and loved ones and i regret with all my heart the loss that is inflicted on us and you daily. but, and there is always a but.... these idf rfetaliatory incursions into your territory of gaza is in retaliation for the CONSTANT BARRAGE OF BOMBS AND SUICIDE BOMBERS AND MISSILS YOU SEND INTO ISRAELI CITIES FULL OF CITIZENS ON A DAILY BASIS. we also cannot live like this and we will retaliate. israelis have found out that no matter what they do, thiese rockets never stop coming. if your read your hammas charter you will see the death wish hammas has for israel, thehate filled pages, the annihilation wishes they have for us. this whole thing is not about the territories because gaza has been liberated last year and the terror has increased!!!! you wanted gaza. we gave you gaza. the question is what are you doing to develope it instead of hate and destroy every opportunity you had for peace? if you and others like you will assume responsibility, take to the streets and demonstrate that you want to have a life apart from the life you have now, if you demanded to know where the billions in foreign aid is and why it is not used to make life for you better, if you elected reasonable leaders, unlike hammas and got rid of your hate and agenda, i can guarantee you that the olive branch will be extended by israel and all its citizens who want the same ting you do. enough death, hate, bombs, etc.... let's live and construct a life we can both share, side by side, each rfecognizing and respec ting the other's borders. is this so very difficult to do? yes, you can come to the beach in tel aviv and sip coffee at one of our caffes and we can go to gaza and also visit and help your economy. how can this be accomplished if you are ruled by murderers who do not wish for you this wonderful life? you know you can have it only if you and all the citizens in gaza take matters into their hands, not play victims and demand a change for yourselves. you are very capable of demonstrating because we saw how you do it on tv.....millions of you. how about demonstrating not for killing jews, but for your rights at citizens of gaza, your leaders' accountability to you. blaming us will never ever solve your problems.
29. #6 and the mantra of self-hating Jews
Michael ,   Haifa   (11.16.06)
I assure you that I do not self-hate. On the other hand, I very much hate Jews like you, who have lost all sense of decency and humanity, just as I hate the terrorists of the other side. You and they are exactly the same, except that you merely hide behind a State and an Army that does the killing for you.
30. I also mourn their deaths.
Alissa ,   Tel Aviv   (11.16.06)
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