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A country with a bad reputation
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Published: 22.11.06, 10:26
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61. To Dan (58)
Ole D. ,   Norway   (11.22.06)
You are overreacting massively, which proves my point. I am trying to say something about why Israel has a bad image in the world. I know Israelis are pissed off, but that does not improve this image, now does it? Europe has free media, and all kinds of opinions are represented. To demand respect yields less respect. I wouldn't dream of counting on positive responses from Israel. Why would I even want it?
62. To:AR California
Charlotte ,   Vienna   (11.22.06)
Trust me -you are dispised. And trust me ,you will feel it.
63. #52; You are right ,all the non-Jews I know support Israel.
Daisy ,   USA   (11.22.06)
This sounds like more Arab propaganda. Don't believe the hype Israel you loved in the world.
64. To Ole
Caroline ,   London   (11.22.06)
I don't think you know what you are saying.Dan's comments are completely right and you are the one not getting it.Norway is a beautiful country -lucky you the Swedes don't want to nuke you.Get real
65. Gabriela
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.22.06)
What happening behoul , i'm truly aware . I made Alya in 2001 , and i know how the media is speaking there . They not talk about terrorist , but activist . When there was an attack as in the Sbarro , they included the terrorist in the number of people murdered [ there were 17 victims ! they said , i not remember the exact number ] in 82 during the Libanon war , news on a Belgian TV showed an interview with an Israeli officer . What do you think about this war ? I was against ! stop . What do the people there think : Even an Israeli officer is against . Half an hour later , on French TV , the same interview : I was against , but when i saw the vast amout of weapons and ammunition the PLO had there , i changed my mind . You see Gabriela , the media have a big influence behoul [ and here also ] I was more than ounce a week in non Jewish reunion for my hobby . How many times had i to correct their perception of what was happening here , how many times had i to explain some things , they are so onesided informed . And thats why i say , already many years that the PR has to be improved drastically , maybe it's not too late .
66. To Ole #61
Dan ,   Israel   (11.22.06)
I have no problems with constructive criticism which for example many countries in Europe including your Norway can't handle. When the Israeli ambassador in Norway was condemning the antisemitism in Norway, it upset the "liberal" Norwegians. After Hezballah attacked Israel, the Norwegians had the nerve of condemning Israel's right to defend herself. A Quisling nation always seems to remain a quisling nation. I can't stand your hypocritical double standards towards Israel and I am happy to be far away from Scandinavia. The Scandinavian countries have in contrast to Israel a very positive image abroad which they don't deserve in the reality. Go to hell with your anti-Israeli/anti-Jewish bias and mind your own business. Dra åt helvete jälva skitstövel och judehatare!
67. #64 Perception vs Reality
Ole D. ,   Norway   (11.22.06)
Everything I have said is all about European perception of Israelis. I am backed by the article to which these talkbacks are comments. I have said nothing about the grim reality Israelis are regrettably living in. I do wish the Israelis could live without daily terror in their cities. And I hope you will some day. The respond I get for just talking about reasons for Israel's bad image in the world, ilustrates the point I'm trying to make. By alienating people like me you are quite frankly losing friends. I know you're going to say you don't need friends like me, but then again, good luck, I don't care. Israel's friends i Europe are increasingly made up by fundamentalist Christians and far-right islamophobics. How will you win the mainstream?
68. #66 Representing Israelis
Ole D. ,   Norway   (11.22.06)
I Norway, as in any country, there exists elements that are xenophobic. That is regrettable. The Jews are not the primary target of this in Norway, the Moslems are. I hope you are not representative of Israelis, although you are quite clearly representative of the ones we hear about, and that is Israel's problem. I understand that the population of Israel are traumatised by years of violence, so I will not hold your Swedish remarks against you. As for the notion that Norwegians are typically antisemite, no one here takes such lies seriously, so when it comes from an Israeli ambassador it greatly harms our perception of the Israeli state. Again, I'm simply talking about what influences perceptions. The everyday reality of Tel Aviv or Gaza I know less about.
69. Why am I not surprised?
Trevor ,   Huron Park, Canada   (11.22.06)
This internationally conducted poll shows Israel in a negative light and immediately it's labled as biased, Arab Propaganda, anti-semitic and wrong. Naturally the rest of the World is wrong while Israel is right. Then there are those who are saying 'Every non-Jew I know supports Israel'. I find that odd because I don't know anyone who supports Israel's policies or actions. The arrogance and ignorance of Israeli apologists does not help Israels image.
70. Fact: "Israelis are most unwelcoming in the world."
Noora ,   Bahrain   (11.22.06)
71. YOUR ALL WRONG
Daniel ,   Newfoundland   (11.23.06)
You guys are all wrong, every single one of your opinionated souls have sinned and cast judgement over gods creation. your little minds don't see the bigger picture and have failed to realize the point of this entire exercise. For that you will be judged. May your continued adventures in this plain be fun ones.
72. to #15
Tess ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (11.23.06)
And I suppose you think that someonw like GWB is a better PR person. Wake up, smell the roses and take of those pink coloured glasses. Start seeing the truth behind our enemies propaganda and you might change your mind
73. To: #31
Privateer ,   Budapest, Hungary   (11.23.06)
Maybe you're right, because you might be the part of the Jewish Community. But let me remind you, that you're never tolerate the people of the other religions. So, maybe that bad reputation is deserved, after you're hating the people of the other religions, including Christians and Muslims. We, Christians are never going to forget that you're bombing Christian districts and killing Christians without any reasons. Please, don't surprise on the results.
74. # 73 from Hungary
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.23.06)
Go a little back in history , not far , 65 or so years . What happened to the Jewish people of Hungary [ and in the rest of christian Europe ] ? do you know ? So do not come with Jewish hate . Look first at yourself .
75. Israel
Franck ,   Paris, France   (11.23.06)
If the racist unworthy senseless paranoïd messages on this board reflect the mentality of the idraelis, Then the results of the poll are not surprising
76. Franck Paris
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.23.06)
Non , Franck ce n'est pas le cas . Je parle bcps mieux la langue de Moliere . I'm continuing in English . Generaly , all over the world , reactions are of extreme people , and i many times desepear by reading them . Some come with lies , enormous , wrong facts , non relevant facts to the subject . So do not think those talkbacks reflects the Israeli people . I have to say that many Mediterranean , look at the Marseillais , have very rapid heating blood . You have only to visit us , and you will see how we are truly . A bientot , j'espere
77. To Dan
Petter ,   Norway   (11.24.06)
Your vile and abusive post (currently marked as #66) to my countryman Ole, complete with foul cursing in Swedish, and insulting my country in deeply unfair and offensive terms ("Quisling nation") was the final straw for me. One can't judge a whole country by individuals; but it occurred to me that your personality matches that of virtually every Israeli I've ever met on my travels around the world: rude, obnoxious, and abrasive. No, I'm not referring to Jews, I'm referring to Israelis. That global poll does not lie. You really are special people and you deserve the disdain you are earning yourself. For my part, when I travel from Sinai to Jordan in two weeks, I'll take the ferry in order to minimize interaction with your kind.
78. To Ole And Petter
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.24.06)
As i wrote in other talkbacks , a great part of the writers are "extreme" and do not represent the Israeli population in general . What do we want ? Simply to live in peace , to give more Hi tec to the world , to have a good future for our children and grand children . Thats probably also what you want . We are not a country surrounded by friendly countries . You , in Scandinavia , had some wars , but now you live in peace and travel without any problem from your country to a neighboring one [ not so much , the sea ! ] This situation here makes many people very nervous , rapidly exited , and so on . If on one occasion you meet such a person , you have a certain image of an Israeli , and you , thats normal , think all are behaving this way . And that is wrong . I do not think i made an anti Scandinavian statement now . Did you read what hapened in Paris yesterday after this football game ? I will not say that all the French are hooligans . Some are , but i do not generalise . As i lived for many many years in Belgium i know a little bit of the European perception of Israel . Many people do not know very much . They heard of the UN resolution 242 [ of 1967 , after the six days war ] but did not know the November 1947 resolution of the UN general assembly regarding the partition of Palestine . You probably also . The Jewish population accepted , the arabs attacked . If you Petter take a ferry , it is fine at sea . Do you encounter only people who behave as you like it ? No of course , you have probably also to bribe some . If you want to encouter only people you like , not easy , but at home maybe ?
79. To Charles
Franck ,   Paris France   (11.24.06)
I would love to visit Israel But I think that as a french I am not welcome
80. Franck WELCOME
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.24.06)
Every one is welcome , as long as you come with peacefull intentions , i suppose you are .
81. Forza Europa
Victor ,   Canada   (11.26.06)
Isreali is not Italy nor germany, They don't make ferrari's or Porsche's. Israel sucks.
82. the world is wrong
mjl ,   SPAIN   (11.29.06)
How the whole world can be wrong?, Israeli people MUST think about it. It is impossible to justify for any more time Israel crimes and terrorism. Even if you decide to be deaf, the world is watching, and is given opinions. This is the reality Israel is building, and it cannot be justified. It is time for israeli people to hear the world, and change their behaviour if they want to be accepted in the International Community of this Planet.
83. Know why China ranks low?
controlledwestmedia ,   denmark   (03.06.07)
One of the major reasons why countries like China rank very low is the persistent and skillfully controlled werstern media lead by those in the US (and guess who or what group control those??) China is systematically put down because of its different ideology and perceived potential threat to US (certain group's) dominance. Iraqi, lebanese, Palestinian wars, with hundreds of thousands civilians dying violently; or a dozen dissidents arrested, which situation constitute worse human rights abuse??
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