Since the arabs in the territories have never had a state,why should Israel,their target for desruction be the country to bestow that honor on them? Pre 1967 they were ruled by Egypt and Jordan.Before ,under Britain. And before,under the Ottoman Empire.Before,just tribes.

Geezus! I don't believe it! Israel, take this one to the bank: If you don't give them what they want, you will have torpedoed the peace negotiations, and guess what'll happen? Of course, if you want to survive as a nation, you can't give them what they want, and here you go again. Why even bother with this farce and give them time to arm themselves to the teeth?

oh! and i thought these past years were just "and they lived together happily thereafter" re-new? anything new?

Stupid argumentation! Before 100 years more than 150 countries around the world were not declared yet! is that a good reason to remove them? Well, let us return to Ottman Empire if you like. In this case, you have to remove Israel. I would like from the bottom of my heart that a Palestinian state will never be established, as you like to say. But what you do not realize is that: In this case the conflict will continue for ever till Israel dissolve and we " the Palestinian" dominate it. With its stupid policy (like your thinking), Israel will destruct itself. I am happy.

because , after so many years of brainwashing the world, years of brilliant propaganda, the kind that only palis. know how to create, they managed to convince everyone including themselves, that there is/was/ will be, a state called 'Palestine'......... that's why!

If Israel would do away with her arrogance, thinking kindness and appeasment will impress the enemy and stop acting morally superior to the Arabs and instead play by the Arab rules, we could easily defeat the Arabs and make peace. If Israel fired one hundred LAR 160s into Gaza for every suicide bombing or kassam rocket that lands on Israeli soil, whether it kills anyone or not, I can promise you that the so called Palestinians would immediately stop all militant activity against Israel. I'm sure of it. That's how you make peace -- destroying evil and embrassing good.

How's this alternative argument, then? In the late 1940's the Israelis were begging for Palestinians to stay and coexist peacefully, while a massive exodus occured. They came back shooting, and for all intents and purposes have not stopped shooting ever since. If you invite your neighbor over for dinner and he comes and kills your wife, you're not going to be a happy host. You might even consider not inviting him back after that happens the fifth or sixth time.

If Adam doesn't sound like a petulant child, I don't know who does. In other words, if you won't let me play with your toys whenever and however I want to, I'll just stomp on them, and neither one of us gets to play. And if I break every bone in my foot doing it, it'll serve you right. Is that illogical thinking acquired or does it come naturally, due to something's constantly misfiring in their brains? To read such disjointed blather is simply mind-boggling. They don't want a Palestinian state. They want to rename the State of Israel, not having the slightest clue that a state is not just land mass, but what's in the heads of the people occupying it. Give 'em Israel today, and next week, next month, next year, it'll look like those greenhouses they took over: rubble and ruins. That borders on psychosis. Instead of F 16's, send over crop dusters and bombard the whole lot with mega doses of Prozac. And yet, the whole world, Israel included, acts as if these people were normal. Somebody, please, tell that emperor that he's, definitely, not wearing any clothes.

great talkbacks! your anologies are perfect , true and to the point. I wish I would have written them! Adumn(Adam)you should try and see the light by learning the truth and getting rid of your imbred hatred.

The only reason the Palastinians will always have an enemy with israel is for one reason and one reason only. Do you want me to tell you. It may hurt to know this. You may not understand at first but think about this. The Arab world as a whole is generaly led by dictators, right? These leaders have control over large quanities of natural resources (oil). So how can these leaders accucumlate a wealth for themselves while neglecting their own people and at the same time maing sure the leaders dont get overthrown. Here is the answer...CREATE an enemy from without. Create a scape goat for all their problem. Only two people united agianst one will get along. Without this enemy there will be infighting. So you ask, where is the oil in this land? The oil is what Arafat created. A sympathy from the world in order to recieve BILLIONS of dollars. Now let me ask you, where is this money now? Do you have some in your pocket? You parents? You community? You neighborhood? City? Police? Army?...have you answered yes yet? WHO HAS YOU MONEY?????? ITS NOT THE JEWS!!!! WE ARE NOT YOUR TRUE ENEMY!!! You dictators are your emeny. Free yourselves against the real oppression. Have an uprising against your brainwashing leadership. You are a pawn in order to stuff there pockets. Do me a favor, think about this for a week then email me and let discuss this. blumken5@yahoo.com

and decided it's not worth a 3rd attempt