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Ahmadinejad, Neturei Karta: Zionists are criminals
Dudi Cohen
Published: 14.12.06, 13:31
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31. Thank You # 22 for explaining to the simple son
SAM ,   USA   (12.14.06)
Maybe you did a "mitzvah"? maybe #14 is too simple. What kind of Jew would re-inforce holocaust deniers? these are good people? NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO SUFFER LIKE THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE. Whatever happened to "what is hateful unto you, do not do unto others"? I believce people like this Nuterei Karta are of the same ilk as Judenrat, kapos and jew catchers and whatever fate Israel doles out for people who were guilty of these crimes the Neuteri Karta should get the same treatment. I don't know about anyone else, but it seems to me the Neuteri Karta are the same as Kapos in a concentration camp with Amadinajad as the commandant.
32. Neturei Karta ?!
dd   (12.14.06)
You certainly behave disgustingly by kissing the new Hitler who actually wants, premeditates and prepares a new holocaust against all the Jews - you included. What kind of Jews are you ?
33. neturei karta to Jeruchem
Kim ,   antwerp, Belgium   (12.14.06)
Maybe you might be right , but just the fact that they are there and publicly embrasse ahmadinejahd and all his croniets that the whole world can see them is according to me a Chillul Hashem. The fact that they sit on a conference where the Holocaust is being questioned gives the wrong impression
34. #14
patrick ,   Quebec (Canada)   (12.14.06)
You have an excellent point Jeruchem and even if I do not subscribe to what Neturei Karta is saying about the existence of Israel, I think that people in this talkback have just overreacted so far. Calm down, and after all you are talking about our brethren, other Jews! You can not ostracize them just because they do not have the same opinion as you do (including me!). Jeruchem's got a point when he says that talking and then checking hands with the killer Arafat in 1993 (Rabin) in Washington was not better than trying to have diplomatic relations with Iran nowdays...Think of it more thoroughly please...
35. They Are No Longer Jews
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (12.14.06)
They have made themselves into a bizarre sect no longer part of the Jewish people. What they have done is unpardonable.
36. Neturei Karta
I. Barr ,   USA   (12.14.06)
Yes, there are Jews for Jesus and Neturei Karta. The latter get donnation and social security and a lot of money from Iran. Anything to make a living.
37. These demonic beings
Sagi ,   Israel   (12.14.06)
must be excommunicated and anathematized officially by the State of Israel and all her institutions. In case of doubt let me spell it out. Their citizenship revoked, their passports taken from them together with all other documents. A one time certificate of travel issued, stamped with an exit visa, a free ticket to wherever they want and every point of entry to Israel alerted that entry will be denied in perpetuity. Goodbye.
38. Jew Impersonators
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (12.14.06)
Someone needs to check their yichus, they are for sure mamzerim if not goyim gamurim. They show up at every anti-Israel even EVEN ON THE SABBATH and they for freaking sure don't walk there and back.
39. Neturei Karta
Arthur ,   Miami Beach, FL USA   (12.14.06)
As my grandparents would say, "Shtick Dreck".
40. Good news too?
Ben ,   Tokyo, japan   (12.14.06)
Lets hope some good comes out of this, namely: it would now seem odd for the Iranians to continue depicting the Jews in the despicable manner they have been doing, as the Neturei Karta physically match the description in the propaganda. Now that the two are friends and Zionists and Jews are apparently separate entities, they will need a new face (not orthodox, no sidelcoks and not wearing a suit) to represent the evil Jews...I mean Zionists
41. Neturei Karta are better than Israeli academics
Ibrahim El-Awal ,   Dearborn, USA   (12.14.06)
Neturei Karta are disgusting but they are benign. The Israeli cancer are the government paid academics such as Ilan Pappe and his gang from Haifa U., Neve Gordon and gang from Ben-Gurion U and Gilboa from Tel-Aviv U. who systematically de legitimize Israel and it's right to exist. Add to them Gideon Levy, Uri Avnery, Amira Haas and you have an organization that specifically wants to destroy the Jewish state. Be aware! Not protesting, being quiet about it is a crime too.
42. those are the one who will save the
palestine hawk ,   alkods palestine   (12.14.06)
jewish race from extinction the israeli gov. know that they keep pamper them for doom day option the day will come when weapons are silent and survival is attached to the wisdom of one's faith WATCH!!!!!!!
43. Dont overreact - explain
Peter ,   Toronto Canada   (12.14.06)
The worst thing as Jews that we can do in this situation is to give Neturai karta any sort of attention at tall. They are an insignificant group whose motives should be explained to the world rather than fought publically (which makes us look like we have something to hide). Lets face it. This is merely a tiny sect of Jews whose literalist interpretation of the Torah suggestst to them that it is not for mere mortals to life even a finger to make anything happen in life. That only God can bring Israel back to the Jews. They stand opposed to any form of defence of the Jewish faith and race, even to the point that they would rather see us all burn in Auschwitz rather than us fight to save our own lives. They are total fatalists. Akin to fringe fundamentalist Christians who refuse medical treatment saying only the lord can save them from Cancer. Shed light on these idiots. Do not fight them. expose them for the totality of their ideas and let the rest of the world laugh at them.
44. But :)
Atilla Karagözoğlu   (12.14.06)
none of them is an ordinary one. they are in the big play. so, lets not take them that easy ! NO ONE PUTS HIS TWO LEGS INTO WATER IN SAME TIME TO MEASURE THE DEEP DEPTH. They already got two-way wisas :) ahhhh ahhhh:) how much wise man I am :)))))
45. Kareem
Gillian ,   Ashkelon   (12.14.06)
Dear Kareem, You should know that these very, very small little group of people are just like any other cult, and really shouldnt be taken too seriously.
46. MUSLIMS hate each other TOO!
Avi ,   New York, USA   (12.14.06)
I find it quite remarkable how many arabs and muslims applaud the views expressed by NK as if they prove dissention in the ranks of judaism. If I recall, most if not all arab nations despise the palestinian people, yet love their plight because it attacks the jewish people. Arab nations have kicked out palestinians everytime they showed up on their land. Jordan was responsible for Black September that murdered more palestinians than all the intifadas combined within Israel! The truth is that this was a conference of hate, with jews and non-jews participating. Nothing was accomplished except a resurgence for the destruction of Israel (a pending second holocaust). Arabs and Jews are both guilty of hating each other, but don't believe that anything has changed from last week or last month. Israel stands strong and will never disappear. Palestine is an imaginary country created by arabs. Philistine city states are all the palestinians deserve and they got the gaza strip. Deal is done and that's how the cookie crumbles:)
47. Question to Zionist Hysterics
Dovy ,   Toronto   (12.14.06)
Those of us who are anti-Zionist Jews cannot understand: You Zionists have ALL the weapons, ALL the media, ALL the money, ALL the rabbis, ALL the Congress, ALL the lobbies. Why are you afraid of such a small group opposing your idolatry? Are you like Haman who said "All I have is of no value as long as Mordechai sits by the gate of the king."??!
48. To Jeruchem - Beilin vs Neturei
Peter ,   Toronto Canada   (12.14.06)
There are many fundamental differences between the two scenarious you raise. at the absolute core, Beilin, Peretz and other "Doves" Believe in a Secular Jewish State of Israel. While they may disagree with you and others regarding where the border is and why, at their core they are Zionists and believe in the importance of the Jewish state for survival of our faith and race. They understand only too well that our survival may in fact be dependant on our ability to live as a Peaceful Israel in the midst of peaceful arab neighbours. But that we MUst control our own destinty. Naturei, is in fact the opposite. They believe that we need to surrender and live under the authority of those that would make us Dhimmis. Simply because their literalist interpretaiton of the Torah suggests that only God can save us, we cannot save ourselves. Do you understand the difference? Beilin and others meet with our enemies because they believe we must make peace with enemies even if we have no love for them. Naturei meet with our enemies to gain publicity and to attempt to have some form of credibility. They meet with them even when the meeting serves NONE of Israel's potential interests.
49. Psychiatric patients flock to Ahmadinejad
SL ,   New York   (12.14.06)
Psychiatrically disturbed individuals flocked to Nazism, and now we see a handful of psychiatrically disturbed individuals, who call themselves Neturei Karta, go grovelling before an evil, perhaps insane pygmy-of-a-man (shades of Pharoah or Hitler, anyone?). So what? Neturei Karta nutjobs have appeared the Islamic Centre of Long Island, and they spouted the same insane rhetoric. What the Jewish people have to be concerned about is the threat of nuclear annihilation (note to NKs: as the Talmud itself notes, when evil is permitted to rein, it won't necessarily discriminate between you and the 99.999999% of Jews who despise your treachery--a nuclear attack would God forbid incinerate Jews, Neturei Karta madmen, and Arabs by the millions). We need to pray, and act, for our salvation.
50. IMPOSTERS
Neal ,   Los angeles   (12.14.06)
These so called rabbis are really Iranian secret sevice possing as Rabbis in order to dupe the world into believing there are really Jews amongst us that think these wild and horriffic thoughts.
51. Response to #34
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (12.14.06)
Easy for you to preach to the Jews when Quebeckers ostracized one another for a lot less in their emotional debate on separatism.
52. #44 advice 2 Plato wanna be
1.5 Billion Muslims   (12.14.06)
1st study philosphy then share ur though with th people Instead of talking nonsence without any Knowledge what philosphy . start with The story of Philosophy by Will Durant then read some philosopher , after that u have right to post ur talk back ynet : Good luck with ur Journey my God show u the right way . Reality Check , world
53. Midah Keneged Midah
Avraham ,   New York   (12.14.06)
1) Zionists are against religious Jews - Religious Jews are against Zionist. 2) Zionist killed Palestinians - Palestinians killed Zionists. 3) Zionist exploited Holocaust - Holocaust conference fires back at them. 4) Zionist cut the peyos of Taimeniee (dark skinned Jews) - Dark skined Persians are taken the peyous of Naturei Karta and cutting with them Zionist. 5) Erev Rav heads Zionist government - Hamas heads the government of Amalek. 6) Olmert runs Zionist show - Ahminedjad runs Iranian show. 7) Israeli public is stupid in their electoral choices - Palestinians are smart in their electoral choice. 8) Israelis hate Naturei Karta Jews who does not take part in Israeli society - Naturei Karta hate Israeli society and take from their enemy Iran. 9) Yes, Naturei Karta is despicable! - Israeli government is also despicable! 10) Israel government didn't finish Hezbollah and Hamas and play democracy game - Do not blame Iran for playing democracy game and they do want to finish Israel for sake of Palestinian democracy. If you blame Naturei Karta, then equally blame Zionist government, both are disgusting, despicable. They are really worth each other. Unfortunately, these two polar forces are playing dangerous for Jewish people games. Both have to go away since they have nothing to do with Jews and Jewish religion and have to be replaced by “real Jews for real Jews”.
54. Doesn't sound like "denial" to me!
Khalid   (12.14.06)
"They [Neturei Karta] also said that "the Jews' massacre in World War II served as an excuse for the Zionists and their supporters to establish the State of Israel ."" Jews massacre???? I thought they were saying this never happened! Oh, maybe int'l mainstream media misled us just a bit.
55. # 2
Natan ,   Phila USA   (12.14.06)
Neturei Karta are not Israeli citizens. They do not recognize the Israeli governement. It is very interesting to find out what kind of travel document have they been using to travel abroad. They should not be allowed back!!! They love the Arabs\Iranian so much let them settle there!!!
56. Secular Israelis have no place in a religious land
Eliyahoo haNavi ,   Universe   (12.14.06)
The secular Israelis have embarrassed the name of Judaism, and they take advantage of Haredi people that perished in the holocaust in order to establish a non religious govt. and leadership. Seculars you must leave this country or change to ULTRA JEWISH religion leadership and Torah constitution. Read my site http://members.aol.com/youthformoshiach. You can also email to me at YouthForMoshiach@aol.com. Children of Israel, RETURN TO YOUR ROOTS. Your forefathers that perished in the holocaust would never have wanted to see their grandchildren living such a life as you secular Israelis do. They would rather not have children than see you in such a atheistic state. RETURN TO HaSHEM, OBSERVE HIS TORAH, THROW OUT THIS ATHEISTIC LEADERSHIP, ESTABLISH A TORAH OBSERVANT CONSTITUTION AND LEADERSHIP. HaSHEM IMANU.
57. Neturei or Nutria
Jerry Sussman ,   Alexandria, USA   (12.14.06)
When headlines about the spread of Neturei to Iran first began to appear, I thought "My God, they truly are prolific creatures." The association with David Duke, the erstwhile Klansman from America's Deep South, reinforced my misperception of the subject under discussion. It seemed that these large Louisianan rodents were everywhere. Closer reading evidenced my naivete. For it was not the migration of large rats that had elicited such opprobrium. Rather it was the incomprehensible, ill-considered and apparently treasonous mission of a group of supposed Jews. Ironically, further reflection upon the matter suggests that my initial perception was correct. Whether identified as Neturei or as nutria, they are the very same vermin, and should be dealt with accordingly.
58. Neturei Karta
Pinko ,   antwerp belgium   (12.14.06)
Sue them for treason and stop any financial help and any other advantages they may be getting from REAL Jews....
59. #4,5,6 perfect comment!
Miriam   (12.14.06)
60. Someone to put Hirsch on cherem
Yoni- Athens ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (12.14.06)
Why dont any of the rabbis put this clown-traitor under cherem? Why is the State admitting him back to the country? There is a law forbidding israelis to travel to enemy-countries. Why isnt he punished??
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