Opinion  Sever Plocker
Stalin's Jews
Sever Plocker
Published: 21.12.06, 23:35
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31. THE FIRST LEFTY JEWS
The truth ,   J'lem   (12.22.06)
As a religues right wing jew i think this dark part of our history should be studied by the naive religues zionists who think that when a evil police/solider comes to throw us out of our home we have to hug him cuz he's a jew and therefor good
32. Stalin's Jews
leah amdur ,   Jerusalem Israel   (12.22.06)
This s what happens when we become atheists. We had communist Jews in South Africa, Ronni Kasrils, Joe Slovo, they are murderers
33. Teen Ploker began to grow up.
Lavrenti Beria ,   Stalingrad   (12.22.06)
Mom didnt explain him all the facts of life "......... I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things."
34. If Jewish Celebrities don't validate my Judaism
Adam ,   Brookline, MA, USA   (12.22.06)
If Jewish Celebrities don't validate my Judaism, than Jewish celebrities don't invalidate it. So, some Jews were criminals and mass murderers, how does this have any impact or even make any kind of commentary on Judaism?
35. jewish stalinists
yarom ,   netanya   (12.22.06)
interesting article but were does he get to this " Turns out that Jews too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great murderers" in what were they messianic jews? not even the fist generation zionists were messianic jews! both wanted liberation from being classifies as stateless people thats all and for that achivment both killed.
36. murder
zichron   (12.22.06)
under lenins jews the victims of famine got help from the jewish humanitarian organizations in the usa . alot of jews must have died in those famines and terrors you can always find murderers and opportunists in every people . there are no perfect people all people are flawed.
37. in evry nation
huda ,   jerusalem   (12.22.06)
this is a note only ..... in evry nation or place or time there is a good and bad ,, it is the people not the place or the time .. but i think in bad time we must remember the good people .. and i think it is a bad time to jews .. so remember the good people of the past // but what about the bad people of the present // i think it is not fair to be bad people tomorrow and just to be rememberd
38. Sever is right
Dati   (12.22.06)
...OK granted, leftist , liberal non-religious hiloni Jews were rsponsible for a multitude of deaths.....hmmmm, therefore all jews should be rightist and religious. wheww I hope this clears everything up
39. With friends like Plocker who needs enemies!
Raoul Schur ,   Netanya, Israel   (12.22.06)
40. Took Guts to Write This
nell ,   switzerland   (12.22.06)
And unfortunately it is true. And the hand that executed the Romanov royal family belonged to a person of Jewish origin too. But I completely agree that those people did not act as Jews, on the contrary they tried to be as far distanced from their Yiddischkeit as possible. They were bolsheviks and revolutionaries creating a new world order and not Jews, lets' not forget that. Anyway, it took courage to write such an article and the majority if the talkback is just as predicted. My compliments to Sever Plocker, this is what being a journalist should mean.
41. Yes, they were born Jews...BUT!
Meir Moses   (12.22.06)
...they were not motivated by Judaism or Jewish values. They had become Communists -- persecuting all men, even their fellows.
42. # 35
itamar ,   ashdod   (12.22.06)
who then do you consider messianic jews?
43. THEY NEVER ACTED AS JEWS BUT AGAINST THE JEWISH PEOPLE
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44. This is why extreme left governments are so dangerous!
Monk   (12.22.06)
This is exaclty why this government, the Olmert government, is so very dangerous. For the very reason Mr. Plocker details here. The extreme left is a fearsome thing.
45. Why won't YNet mention
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (12.22.06)
Why won't YNet mention the names of unrepentant Stalinists who are still active Knesset members and who write op-eds for YNet?
46. Don't forget the Israeli Bolshevics
Harry   (12.22.06)
Who sold children espesially the yemenite children and told the parents that the children died. The brutal police who clubbed the defensless youth in amona. The Israely society who threw 10,000 Jews from their land and made them jobless etc....
47. Plocker hasn't a clue what he is saying
Alexander ,   Ramat Gan, Israel   (12.22.06)
Why should we force Jewish identity onto the people who themselves rejected it and, in fact, fought viciously to ecterminate it? Yes, there were many Jewish-born Soviet citizens in Stalin's service- but Jewish they were not. They were zealous converts to the faith of Communism, and Jewish faith and Jewish nationality were enemies in their eyes. They didn't want to be a part of us- need we count them, against their will, among our people?
48. AND NOW A LIST OF JEWS 'FOR'' THE WORLDS IMPROVEMENTS
IS PLOCKER IS ON ,   STALINS GOOD LIST?   (12.22.06)
49. They are not kapos
Arkady ,   Beer Sheva   (12.22.06)
They were not kapos. They were not guards. These people whose parents were Jews considered themselves "persons of the world", communists, internationalists, humanists. There were a lot of them. A lot of these women-communists were close to Stalin, e.g., wife of Molotov (remember Molotov - Rebentropp pact). In USA, you may compare them to women like Beba Strighthand (of course, she couldn't find a KGB husband in US). In Israel, Tamir is a dedicated socialist- internazionalist. Tamir, Bailin, etc. are not kapos. They honestly believe into 'humanism".
50. re
wally henderson ,   whitehall,UK   (12.22.06)
Oh how the truth does hurt.
51. Some Observations
Bill ,   Pottsville Pa. U.S.A   (12.22.06)
After reading the article, I have a few observations. While it is true that those involved where "secular" Jews, They were still Jews. Also, I find that many of the talkback readers who voice displeasure at the article, say that they were "internationalists", "humanists", or "communists." What's the difference? The fact remains that even some "jews" were, (and are) capable of killing on a grand scale. Lastly, And please correct me if I am wrong, aren't most of the decision makers in todays Isarel non religious? Does that make them any less Jewish then the kapos?
52. Raz #17
patrick ,   Canada   (12.22.06)
Exactly my friend. Jews are like anyone else in this sad Earth! :-(
53. We Will Remember
world bank ,   dallas & US   (12.22.06)
Also. You are not above the law, though you think you are. Do you belive Jewry to be the only people ever persecuted in History? Look at the Native Americans. Jewry has been, for centuries on end, the instigator or everything violent in the World....all for monetary reasons. You are the true GOY!
54. Stalin's Jew's
David Jet ,   Canada   (12.22.06)
We are all born equal, no belief's or preconceptions about life instilled in our minds and hearts by our creator. Every thing that come's after is the invention of man not the creator. So religious belief's are nothing but that belief. The creator has given you life it's up to you to understand. If in your heart you harbour evil then you will do evil, no matter what belief's you have. The trick is to understand one's self, not to understand a belief. I will not become a great an hounerable being without knowing myself.
55. Haven't we suffered enough?
Glen ,   Ontario, CA, USA   (12.22.06)
56. Some Jews served Stalin; others fought him courageously
Daniel ,   Formerly Israel   (12.22.06)
It is true that many of Stalin's agents were jews (take the Rosenburgs for example) and they nearly destroyed the world in his name. But Jewish opposition to Stalin was also powerful. In the middle East Israel turned away from Stalin and for four decades it fought Soviet proxies, from Nasser to Arafat, and did more than any other country with the exception U.S. and U.K. to destroy the USSR. As for Jews within the USSR, after Stalin had killed of the Jewish monsters who had served him, the remaining Jewish population formed the core of the anti-communist dissident movement (a movement that my own parents were part of). The fact that some Jews sereved Stalin doesn't matter, just like it doesn't matter that some Jews today support Iran. What matters is what the majority chooses and in what direction the people turns, and today Sever Plocker is guiding it in the wrong direction.
57. The Jewish self-flagellation is sickening!
Roger ,   USA   (12.22.06)
They were Russian and not Jewish. In fact, most of them did not have a Jewish trait in their bodies. They were raised on the Russian food, mentality, culture, literature, ideology, history and land. What was Jewish about them? NOTHING!
58. He forgot Beria!!!
marek ,   SGF/USA   (12.22.06)
59. What an idiot!
Joel ,   New York, USA   (12.22.06)
The "Jews" who did Stalin's bidding never considered themselves Jews, hated Zionism, and served an anti Semitic master. Does anyone think that dogs such as Kaganovich and Trotsky observed Jewish holidays and cared about Jews?
60. Jewish to a degree.
JewsInNameOnly ,   Chicago Illisnois   (12.22.06)
But did not in any way represent Judaism. Most of the Bolsheviks, are in fact followers of Shabatai Zvi... They are false Jews in the end. http://www.thebarrychamishwebsite.com Just as the Pentocostals are all false Christians. There are flaws in Judaism and Christianity which created things like Shabatainism, which is of satan. But they are not believers in faith.
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