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Settler violence in Hebron continues
Ali Waked
Published: 10.01.07, 22:47
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1. the video doesn't show that much
bob ,   potomac md   (01.10.07)
just a lot of commotion--and the boy saying that they beat up his brother--but no pictures of such are shown--just a lot of jumpig aroudn--and the young soldier seems to keep his cool throughout--as far as the other video goes--the Jewish lady (ostensibly) using the sh word over and over again seems not in keeping with how relgious ladies should be have--but there too we just see a lot of commotion and shouting--
2. WHO IS SETTLER ON JEWISH LAND ??????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOEL   (01.10.07)
....... ?????? !!!!! ??????!!!!!!!
3. credible sources
Leo   (01.10.07)
yes you can certainly trust everything that the Palestinians and B'Tselem say...they have a history of telling the truth
4. Hey Bob?
Yossi   (01.10.07)
Just a lot of commotion, you say? You don't see those little settler rascals throwing stones at the gate? I can clearly see that and can hear them pinging off the gate, as well. I guess you just see and hear what you want to see and hear and ignore everything else. Just a lot of commotion, Bob. Yesiree!
5. This behavior on the part of Jews will be our downfall.....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (01.10.07)
It was so disgusting watching that Jewish woman call the arab woman and her children cunt over and over and over again. We are raising a generation of monsters in Hevron, whether or not we justify it by how much they hate us. These Jewish children will grow up to be monsters unles the rest of the country does something to stop this behavior. And the whole world knows it.
6. looks like another hizbullah video
isragirl ,   NJ, USA   (01.10.07)
All you see is the ground and a hysterically screaming woman, no proof to the beating she refers to. Same woman as in the previous unclear video. Settlers do misbehave, but no sight of the described atrocities. I'm inclined to believe that in a bitterly divided village people from opposing groups will b mean to each other (remember Ireland, Yugoslavia?). Still, no proof insight, just provocation and rather patient and respectful Israeli soldiers
7. A woman afraid for her relative's safety
Steve ,   USA   (01.10.07)
B"H I looked at this video and I do see a problem. I respect the organizations that present this sort of documentation, and I think it is important. I do not have the full story to say whose "fault" this situation is, but I think a probe is definately warranted into the situation. I saw no evidence that the boy was physically harmed in the footage presented. I hear an accusation that the boy was being harmed but no footage to substantiate it. I did hear a comment about turning the camera off which sounds a lot like what happened in Gush Katif destruction which I do not find acceptable. Then again, I live in a free society, and these area are under military control which is a different form of government, more akin to the celephate form except the head is Jewish instead of Arab. The woman needs therapy at this point and I say that not out of hate for her, but out of genuine concern that there are to many issues for her to resolve on her own in her present living arrangement. It is a very difficult situation. If this is the problem Ray is referring to, I see it as a Jewish issue. In the meanwhile, her son is going to need an IDF escort to his school and she will also need IDF escort to reasonable destinations. In situations like this, there are usually separation orders given in the United States preventing physical contact between the people with such hot emotions. Something needs to be done here to make the situation better. And I am not saying that she is completely innocent in this matter. I am saying that intervention is definately required because she is in an impossible situation as far as I can tell and that does not bode well either for her or the Hebron Jewish community.
8. Violence ? Where are the dead arab's ?
Marcel ,   Florida   (01.11.07)
The self loathing Jews who are quick to stand with the inventors of the suicide belt have no shame. WHen the Jews of Hebron put up with the abuse from their government ,media and the Islamic terrorists they should recieve great honor and admiration. YNET ,SHAME ON YOU for your pathetic reporting.
9. We cannot live together
Besalel ,   Kew Gardens, NY   (01.11.07)
#5 is right. We cannot continue to live like this. We cannot turn into monsters. We cannot lose our humanity. We MUST find a way to relocate the Arabs to one of the other 22 Muslim countries where they can live and prosper without the daily harrassment. Its either them or us. It cannot be both them and us in this tiny space we all are trying to call home. A one time act of transfer will have less of an effect than what has been happening all these years. Had transfer taken place 20 years ago, so many Arab and Jewish lives would have been saved. Do it now before we turn into monsters. Do it now so that in 20 years we can have diplomatic (and even friendly) relationships with the Arab countries the way the US and Vietnam today enjoy diplomatic ties. Transfer now because every other alternative allowing Israel to exist is too cruel on the Arabs.
10. Looks like Arab provocation
Ron ,   LA   (01.11.07)
Looks like some kind of local dispute in which the Arab woman shouts loudly and emotionally, where the soldiers keep their cool and trying to resolve the dispute. To say that because there is some kind of local family dispute and to project it on the entire population is immoral. Muslim always claim you can not judge Islam based on actions of some of it's followers. If we except the logic, then how we can judge all Jews in Hebron on this basis? Of coarse B'tselem is advocating Palestinian rights so by definition is biased. This is of coarse just one part of the story.
11. Thank you Spielberg!
Ron ,   LA   (01.11.07)
Looks like Spielberg project is working. As you remember he finances video cameras to Palestinians to promote "peace". The video camera of coarse is just a neutral tool. In the hands of B'tselem it promotes hate.
12. That settler looks ugly.
Jellybean ,   Chicago   (01.11.07)
13. Ridiculous
USA JEW ,   USA   (01.10.07)
Is this the best B'tzelem can do? This video shows and proves NOTHING. Jews have every right to live in Hebron. A Jewish community has been been there ( on & off ) for centuries. And Jews will continue to build and live there. Arabs will just have to learn to coexist with us Jews. Somehow they can't. Why????
14. YNET SPIN
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (01.10.07)
Interesting how as more and more corruption scandals surface,the media shift their attention to their favorite group of people to blame the country"s ills on. You would almost think that we live in a non jewish european country ,were it is always the custom the blame the jew for their ills.As i write this ,i realize that most likley Ynet will censor me out as they often do.Because one can say nothing bad about anyone accept for our evil brothers in Yesha,who are the cause of everything.This will always lead up to more expulsions. In fact the basis of this state is non jewish,but the much hallowed democratic secular principle is worth any sacrafice,including our jewish identity.As things spin more out of control so will the rhetoric against these people. Just reading the talkbacks one can see how effective the media are in creating hatred.
15. CAN'T YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO HIM!!!!
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (01.11.07)
This is even lamer than the fist video. I can't see a damn freaking thing on this utterly worthless video. NOTHING. There are no "settlers" attacking anyone on this video. All you see is some Jewish kids standing across the street, minding their own business, one is a toddler. No attacks, no beatings, no "humiliation," no "proof" of any wrong doing on the part of the Jews--just a screaming plochta and the street. And this is THE WORST of "settler atrocities" that "B'Tselem has to offer.
16. What violence?
Alex ,   TO. CA   (01.11.07)
Show me some settler violence, nu? Again as in the previous submission to the “Funniest Hamas Home Videos” there’s absolutely nothing featured here other than some psychopath arab lady dressed in a ghost costume and screaming like a village idiot and a lot of stuff out of focus. I didn’t see anyone being beaten up. Would like to – but didn’t. The lady surely screamed something to that effect – but she’s obviously crazy. Might have as well screamed that Martians are eating her goat. Now, I live in the comfortable suburbia of North America, but I can guarantee you that if anyone of my neighbors were to scream like that lady for no reason, I would be very tempted and justified to hit her hard with a snow shovel over the head just for the disturbance of peace. If anything the “settlers” showed tremendous restraint in face of open provocation especially given the recent and not-so-recent history of the wonderful neighborly behavior by these screaming squatters. One need only to remind oneself of the few past episodes : 1929 massacre, Shalhevet Pass murder, all the other countless defenseless Jews murdered. The Heilike Reb Boruch Goldstein’s, nishmoso eden, had an approach to deal with them and that was also called “settler violence”. One would wonder… If anything this b’tzelem video is a damning evidence of the poor state of the mental health services in the arab sector of Hevron. They must have used up all of their straight-jackets to make suicide-belts out of them…
17. Radiation??? What a bunch of B.S. vile propaganda lies!!!
HaDaR ,   Israel   (01.11.07)
Poor Arabs!!! They of course do not remind the reader about the terrorists that used their yards to prepare for terror attacks. They prefer to avoid saying that they have been murdering Jews in Hebron for HUNDREDS OF YEARS, and that Jews had been there for over 2000 years before the first Arab got there and decided that Jews had to be treated as garbage and given to the death and life whims of ANY Arab.
18. HORRIBLE>UNCIVILIZED< DESPICABLE>UNTHINKINABLE...
Bruno ,   austr/telaviv   (01.11.07)
LOL, NOT. Just ANOTHER LOONYTUNE COMIC PRODUCTION Brought to you by Y net& betsalem.
19. wierd ha?
toni ,   sabme   (01.11.07)
before you set the tone for an article why not start with a base of truth. maybe arab should be substituded with muslims. and settlers with criminals then we might see both sides f0or what they are and to me they are equal.
20. Pattern of Arab Propaganda
cj ,   chicago, usa   (01.11.07)
The only question is why is ynet "hopefully unintentionally" participating in this. Same in US where cair uses courts and media that would not even exist in places like Iran.
21. Fake & Goofy. And Uh, Nice Try Jew Haters, How Clever
concerned citizen ,   nyc   (01.11.07)
So, Y Net Hope you won't censor my comment like you often do. Do You Have the Guts to give Equal Time to the few brave jews living there so they can tell their side of the story. If no, Y Net Y Not ???
22. #9 Get the settlers out
Boycott ,   UK   (01.11.07)
There are about 500 Jewish settlers in Hebron, a city of 150,000 Arabs, and yet you want the Arabs to leave? It looks like you already lost a good part of your humanity.
23. Settlers are terrorists
kevin ,   London   (01.11.07)
24. #22 There are so few settlers because of the Hebron Massacre
RA   (01.11.07)
"For some time, the 800 Jews in Hebron lived in peace with their tens of thousands of Arab neighbors. But on the night of August 23, 1929, the tension simmering within this cauldron of nationalities bubbled over, and for 3 days, Hebron turned into a city of terror and murder. By the time the massacres ended, 67 Jews lay dead and the survivors were relocated to Jerusalem, leaving Hebron barren of Jews for the first time in hundreds of years. "
25. Dear Ynet
Tracy W   (01.11.07)
Why are you showing this video? If I watch just the images with the sound turned off, there's really nothing but a blur caused by a confused and inept cameraman. Nothing really alarming seems to be happening there. The soundtrack of a hysterical female is heard in the background but it does not appear to match the images shown. Where's the violence? You must be aware of countless videos of Arab violence that would be more illustrative of what living among Arabs can be. By the way, I bet any Gazan would consider Hebron like Club Med compared with her life in Gaza these days, among kidnappings, corruption and endless violence.
26. Video Wars?
Tracy W   (01.11.07)
There is no excuse now for not documenting what happens to the Jews in their own country (and by that I include Judea and Samaria). Gazans are always filming real and not so real "events" for international and Israeli media. So, Israeli Jews, why not carry a little videocamera phone at all times and get it all on film.
27. if you cant see
jay ,   usa   (01.11.07)
its for the camara
28. dont distort the facts
jay ,   usa   (01.11.07)
by the way the israeli is saying stop but you dont see that in english
29. Appalling posts
Patricia ,   Waipahu, Hawaii, USA   (01.11.07)
I have read the posts on this article for the past two days. It is appalling to read the hate, bigotry and lack of empathy some writers have expressed. None of us know what really happened and an honest investigation will help clear the issues. However the female "settler" from my perspective violated this other party's rights and space, I saw her try to get into the caged area and the name calling. Outrageous. Those of you who have wrote such negative and hate filled comments remind me of the Southerns who used to treat Blacks so horribly. They also used to sterotype them and then justify their behaviors with the sterotyping which included lynching them and denying them basic human rights. I know these are tough times but is hate the way to solve the mutitude of issues you Israeli's have? Or will it just be a self filfulling prophecy. I read yesterday that someone even justified this "settler's " woman's behavior and others by citing something that happened in 1929 or 1939. Just unbelievable. The views expressed here do not reflect the Jewish people that I have respect and affinity for. Do not even try to call me an antisemitic. I fully support Israel and it's right to exist. Please think about how you have deliberately minimized a situation that may in fact be a terrible situation that caring people would not excuse.
30. Hysterical woman asks soldier, "WHY ARE YOU BEATING ME UP?"
Richard James ,   NY, USA   (01.11.07)
What a bunch of hogwash! There's NO settler violence shown in any of this. There's a hysterical Arab woman claiming that a boy is being beaten up. Then she asks the calm soldier "WHY ARE YOU BEATING ME UP???" when he's doing nothing but talking to her. One isn't beaten up because they say "Stop beating me up" when no one is doing anything to them. Her brother wasn't being beaten up simply because she claimed he was being beaten up. NOTHING WAS SHOWN! YNET, why do you claim that the video shows more violence when it's really showing a screaming Arab woman making claims that aren't proven by the video? This is absurd! Get the Arab woman some Prozac. Problem solved.
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