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Olmert on settler violence: I am ashamed
Ronny Sofer
Published: 14.01.07, 15:12
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31. Real Face of jewish settlers!
perpetual_right ,   Jerusalem, OPT   (01.14.07)
I doubt this represent 10% of the real evil that lies inside the jewish settlers!
32. Clean shaven
Andras Bereny ,   Kfar Tapuah, Shomron   (01.14.07)
Clean shaven olmart with no kippah and no Torah, I am ashamed of you. Settler Bereny
33. To all of you who answer to the so called"marlene"
Europe   (01.14.07)
Why are you answering to it? dont you know it is an absolutelly seak ambassador of Betsellem and the islamic power? Do you think it really believes that pales are only poor little children with stones? Do you think it is someone nice but doesnt know what is really hapening in Israel or what the islamic behavior is around the entiire world? This entity called Marlene is trying to make you feel guilty, telling you are like nazis and pretending it would give you "the solution of the problem" (lolllllll) Dear friends, stop answering to it, dont be naif. Let me tell you, the so called Marlene knows better than you what the Hamas, the Fatah and the Hezbolla are. It knows better than you where our weak point is : in our conscience. Then dont feel guilty, and stop answering : the modern fascisme is islamic. Come to Europe and see : the european islamics use to speak the same language = all the civilizated people of the world are nazis.... the islamic and their friends are their little victims and are peacefull, nice, friendly and sweet (lollllll)
34. Marlene, have you ever seen the damage a Stone can do?
Esther ,   Ofarim, Israel   (01.14.07)
I guess not. Stupid, a stone can kill!
35. Mr. Olmert, you mean you still have some Shame left?
Esther ,   Ofarim, Israel   (01.14.07)
Unbelievable.
36. HYPOCRIT
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (01.14.07)
A lot of people are ashamed of you olmert,your corrupt ways ,your stupidity and lack of morals.But you are cunning ,always using a very willing liberal media to fan the flames of hatred towards these peolpe. Getting yourself and your friends ready for some oldfashioned head banging aren"t you.That is when you show resolve,beating up on some jews,you king of the erav rav.
37. The rest of the story ...
Steve ,   USA   (01.14.07)
B"H There is more to this story that of course is not being reported. My understanding is this is the beginning of it: One day, as happens with children all over the world, the kids had a fight and this one went home crying and that one went home crying. A little while later, the Jewish woman heard someone knocking at her door. When she opened it, one of the Abu-Isha clan stood there and started screaming at her. (Did you see it on the Internet?) After a little while, he turned around and went home. Shortly afterwards, a soldier stationed in the neighborhood approached the woman and asked her if she wanted to issue a complaint against the man who had screamed at her. She responded that she didn't understand Arabic and she had no idea what he had said. The soldier replied, "I understand Arabic. He said he was going to come back with a knife and kill all of you." Needless to say, the kids stopped playing together. In conclusion, it is also important to try and keep events in proportion to their actual significance.
38. Is olmert the coward ashamed of his children?
jason white ,   afula,israel   (01.14.07)
39. Where are the Videos of MUSLIM HUMAN BOMB KILLER ATTACKS ???
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.15.07)
Muslim daily rocket attacks and crimes against humanity against Jewish innocents are NOT punished. These evil, barbaric acts are rewarded with Jewish land and assets.
40. Marlene is NOT JEWISH
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41. ANYONE ASHAMED OF AMONA ?????????????
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42. OLmert Is Offended. Well So Am I, But Not ......
Adina Kutnicki ,   US   (01.15.07)
Olmert should be tarred and feathered. While he opines about two neighbors having a loud fight, he was the one who initiated the breaking of bones, and all the brutality at Amona directed towards the 'settlers'. If he feels the need to be ashamed he should go home and give his wife a tongue lashing and his grown daughter a smack. Aliza and her henchwomen from Women in Black harass IDF soldiers whose job it is to protect the state. His militant leftist daughter calls IDF officers MURDERERS. Olmert is shameless and will take ANY opportunity to malign the nationalist right. IF he cannot tolerate two neighbors going at it, then he better run to NYC to live with his draft dodging son. Being in Israel requires a fighting spirit which he obviously is missing. "I am tired of fighting, tired of winning....." Disgusting!
43. What is wrong with you PEOPLE?
Patricia ,   Waipahu, Hawaii, USA   (01.15.07)
I continue to find these posts of hate and irrational justification disgusting. Your attempts to justify what this woman did is the same as the Palestinian groups use to justify their suicide bombs and other terror they use against the Israeli's. This woman has been involved in a previous incident, Haaretz 1/10/07, that occurred on 3/05 where she forced rocks into the mouth of a 10 year old child among other things. She is scheduled for a hearing in 2/07. Really, I expect more from a group that claims to be morally right in this conflict. Let the courts decide about this woman, they will have ALL the facts not the speculation some of you have presented as truth. Additionally why don't you spend your time more constructively by defending good, honest and upstanding people who deserve your defense and let this low life deal with the consequences of her unacceptable behaviors. Try to demonstrate some of the humanity and empathy you should have for others regardless of their race, give others a chance and focus on the real bad guys. We all know who they are. Don't even waste your time calling me an anti semitic, it will just show how quickly you use this term to describe those who honestly disagree with you. Just remember how upset you get with any Nazi comparison.
44. Patricia
Margaret   (01.15.07)
No offense, but I hardly think yelling at a neighbor is quite on the same moral level as blowing up a bus full of schoolchildren or blowing up old ladies celebrating a religious holiday. In the same area,that this unfortunate incident occurred, a few years back on a playground, a 10 month old Jewish child was shot to death by an Arab sniper. Most of the same people showing such total and impartial outrage by the Jewish ladies behaviour hardly said a thing about that atrocity. And if they did they usually blamed the grieving parent's, instead of the terrorist who took aim at the infant deliberately and shot her to death.
45. Margaret #44
Patricia ,   Waipahu, Hawaii, USA   (01.15.07)
I took no offense Margaret, while I feel you have missed the point here, I appreciate your concerns. I do not know the history of those who have expressed outrage, I still think they are right in expressing these feelings. My point is not what has happened to Jewish settlers, if they were hurt or killed by their neighbors then it is equally appalling. This is more than just an argument between neighbors, it is a history of bad behavior by people in the Hebron area. And unfortunately, many of the writers here use past incidents and the ongoing terror used against them to justify or minimize this incident of terror. I am proud of the other areas where Jewish settlers have attempted to be good neighbors and live in an atmosphere quite different than is apparent in Hebron. Today is Martin Luther King day in the US and I would offer two quotes from this blessed man: "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere", "The good neighbor looks beyond the external accidents and discerns those inner qualities that make all men human and therefore brothers." I hope for the survival of Israel and a day that all can live in peace. I don't believe that can happen if hate and blind intolerance is allowed to prevail, I continue to be optomistic that these hateful views do not represent the majority of Israelis but just the outspoken few. As I said, I do expect more from the Israelis who are, up to now, seen by me as holding the higher moral ground. One has to own up to the misdeeds of a few without equivocating to maintain this moral advantage.
46. If a stone can kill. (to Esther) 34
Marlene ,   New York City   (01.15.07)
Then a stone thrown by anyone is a weapon, however, stones thrown by Jewish settlers and their children for some reason are magic stones that do not do any damage to anyone since they are free to throw them with impunity. That's the problem with apartheid...it separates people by different laws according to one's identity.
47. marlene
debbie ,   No.O. LA   (01.16.07)
Are you able to come up with anything original and/or creative?The same stupidity-blah blah apar.state-blah blah.Buy a new tape so you can hear yourself and if this is what you compare to homicide bombers and kidnappings and tearing boys in a cave(oh remember that one idiot?)-maybe you ought to talk about a culture of death and muder...think a little, moron.
48. Patricia
debbie ,   LA   (01.16.07)
do you see anyone applauding this behavior?So if it happens, it means all settlers are rotten animals?Do you WANT to see this?Did anyone say this is something great?You want to make comparisons and so you got what you wanted.Did anyone say "oh goody"????
49. Debbie, right on! Truth is, all this is a diversion
Beth Landau ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (01.16.07)
What better way is there to cover up all the failures and corruption scandals Olmert and Peretz are involved in then demonizing Jewish settlers. It's the ultimate 'Wag the dog' kind of spin that diverts attention away from the real issues.
50. Bleeding Hearts
debbie ,   LA   (01.16.07)
I remember in college,some of my friends(yep)dated some students from Arab countries and I do recall then referring to the girls as "sharmutta".They had so little respect for these bleeding heart idiots.It would be humorous if it wasn't so pathetic.They even said they had a lot of respect for the girls with"the long skirts" who never answered them at all.They said it reminded them of their own sisters.The humorous part is these idiots had no idea how they were perceived.
51. Attack
debbie ,   LA   (01.16.07)
I didn't even realize this was a verbal attack- I kept waiting for some assault.That's what I got from the headlines.Did anyone teach the woman "sticks and stones"?How about throwing stones at settlers and soldiers unprovoked?Anyone use the word assault in these situations?
52. #33 europe
debbie ,   LA   (01.16.07)
you are right- why answer some a__hole like Marlene who knows she is a simple parrot who can't even come up with something more clever...you're right.It's so rediculous to keep pointing out the obvious.
53. The C word
Janice ,   MS   (01.16.07)
I do not think that Arab word (sharmuta)translates to the C___word. I believe it translates to "whore".Otherwise the C word has a worse connotation.Does anyone know which is the correct translation from Arabic?
54. #53, You are correct, 'sharmoota' means 'a loose woman'
Beth Landau ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (01.16.07)
Like 'whore' or 'prostitute'. The translation in the video is false and misleading and simply puts words in her mouth which she never uttered. I still think she should have been more careful considering the fact that anti Israel activists would use any bit of ammunition against the Jews there.
55. Debbie #48
Patricia ,   Waipahu, Hawaii, USA   (01.16.07)
You are an entirely unpleasant person who resorts to name calling when you disagree. I did not see the word "goody" but it is certainly implied. Don't presume to tell me what I wanted. what I do want is for you and others like you to know that people do not agree with your hatred and bigotry. What did you do just wake up or did it take you a day to figure out your dispictable retorts. I am so hopeful that you and Beth do not represent the Israelis. To me, you seem somewhat like the Jewish woman in the video and tend to use similar language perhaps not as vile as you would be censored. I will not respond to you again, I prefer rational disagreements like with Margaret.
56. margaret
debbie ,   LA   (01.16.07)
Well Ms Condescending and self righteous lady(I presume you are a lady)-there are definitely people who get off on this kind of thing.Where did you see I was a bigot?Did I say I condoned it?And if there is a settler or settlers who "name-called" someone,it means settlers are despicable and racists?Did you ever even go there?Do you even know anyone who was a victim(and I mean a real victim)of Pal. terrorism and HATRED?Or you sit in your ivory tower judging everyone else?Who do YOU think you are?Pleasant?Look again.
57. Morality Panel
debbie ,   LA   (01.16.07)
I wonder how many lofty holy people on this panel ever had to fight for their own homes and existence. Ever been to the army?Ever face people who want to see you dead and buried?I do not see your horror at the little children who say Jews are descendents of pigs and monkeys.And then broadcast on all Arab stations?Oh what happened?Didn't hear a peep out of you then.What's the matter?You don't need to preach to us here about MLK- we live it here in the South.And fought for it-justice. Thank you!
58. Patricia
debbie ,   LA   (01.16.07)
Oh goody Patricia- you are now the policewoman who wants the hatred to stop.Wow! What a great goal since no one else thought of it-thanks for teaching it to the rest of us who are so unaware of what begotry and hatred is about.How dare you call anyone a bigot who is critical of you!!And you are not unpleasant?
59. mistake/margaret
debbie ,   LA   (01.16.07)
sorry Margaret- I meant Miss Patricia.I apologize for the error
60. prejudice
Janice ,   Clinton, MS   (01.16.07)
If anyone has truly studied this subject and researched it, they would know that everyone and I mean everyone harbors feelings of bigotry etc.The idea is to recognize it,work with it and then not allow them to become "action".That is the main focus for many people who want to understand all this.Acting out on these feelings is the problem and not possessing them.If someone points fingers,they are in serious denial...thank you all. J
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