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UK TV uncovers 'Islamic supremacism'
Yaakov Lappin
Published: 16.01.07, 19:37
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31. To #25 Mustapha
Ironcandle ,   Atlanta, GA   (01.16.07)
"Unfortunately, current world events are fueling hatred and making it even more difficult for moderate to speak up." You mean that countries and societies are defending themselves against muslims, right? Muslims declared war on the US, and now the US is fighting back and the Muslims are whining about it. If you don't want war, don't declare war and attack people. Very simple.
32. ok muslim talkbackers...weigh in here...
aaron ,   ra'anana   (01.16.07)
33. Hard to Believe
Rita Lang ,   Palm Springs, Ca.USA   (01.17.07)
It is hard to believe that this kind of hatred and ideology still exsists today. It is frightening to say the least. I am a Jew and never experienced this kind of evil in my life. They are madmen and are preaching death. Get rid of them.
34. #30 Libneniyyeh - don't make excuses!
Robby ,   San Jose, USA   (01.17.07)
What is the context? What exactly did he mean? Under what context would it be ok to call Jews pigs and then make pig sounds? You say this is precisely what non-Muslims want to hear - so they are only saying it for us? Perhaps this is just another Zionist plot to control Islam?!?!?! Please - accept it for what it is.
35. #28
(01.17.07)
can you give evidence from your Holy Book, that states otherwise? What is the age of marriage for a women in Judaism?
37. re: I am a muslim
boxley ,   Atlanta   (01.17.07)
I have heard similar speech in small evangelical christian churches. However they are in a minority of the christian community in America, It appears from the documentary that the wahabi is growing their fangs as the predominant sect in the UK. That is worrysome.
38. Islam "moderates"
sarge ,   Rochester   (01.17.07)
We hear no voices of islamic outrage in the publc square because those set against peace have gone throughout the world. They are the silent threat against any "modreate" who dares show his face or speak truth to the lies. One in twenty is all it takes to control the whole group. All know that any "moderate" will meet a fate shortly after he is seen. "Moderates" may be out there, but it seems to me that they fear other Moslems more than the truth.
39. 35 - I heard you were smaller but...
Ryan ,   Calgary, Canada   (01.17.07)
Do you need a holy book to tell you that marrying a 9year old is wrong? typically they have, no menstrual cycle no breasts no hair, they haven't hit puberty then. To want to marry them is disgusting. Are you that hard up for a date? Is your penis that small?
40. I am Jewish
(01.17.07)
and I have NEVER heard any hate speech preached about Muslims or Christians in any synagogue I've been to.
41. AND EUROPE REMAINS SILENT>>>
(01.17.07)
42. #35 that's not the point at all!
(01.17.07)
The point is that there is an enormous difference when a religion is actively condoning pedophilia. Just like polygamy is against the law in the USA, so is pedophilia. Any Muslims who act like sex offenders because of what a few retarded Imams tell them are in for a rude shock when they get thrown in prison and gang raped by a bunch of equally horny and mal-adjusted "older men."
43. # 39 Right on man, #35 wants to dominate
Kiseel   (01.17.07)
A 29 to 36 year old just that wants that to control and make his wife subserviant. # 35 needs a mental institution! 9 years old is a brutal crime. Allah says it's cool, how many other crimes does Allah say "cool man, no problem"?
44. to "I am a Muslim"
Torontoguy ,   Toronto   (01.17.07)
I haven't been to the moderate Dubai. Jews are not allowed in at all.
45. our dear cousins
noson tzvi ,   jerusalem   (01.17.07)
To repeat what wise Europeans are saying - we didnt want the Yidn and look what we got instead!
46. Marlis in Germany
Tam   (01.17.07)
"They call warners like me "islamophob" That's the politically correct way of shutting you up....but don't let them get away with it. Speaking out against islamic extremism is not islamphobic...it's practical sense. Keep it up!
47. I'm not surprised at all
Tam   (01.17.07)
But what really concerns me is that NOONE in that mosque stood up and denounced what that ignorant imam was saying. Extreme islam is here folks and we'd better do something about and not leave it for our children to face.
48. To each his own
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (01.17.07)
You know what, we have a popular saying in Arabic: 'kil wahad 'a deeno Allah y'eeno' which means simply to each person his own religion, and god will reckon with all one day. There has to be objectivity, at least a willingness to listen with an open mind before passing judgment. As there is only hatred and anger one might as well be talking to him/herself. By the way, this guy who dressed up as a Muslim in order to spy on the goings on in this mosque, how long did the business take him? And has it ever crossed you good people's minds that for every evil there is a good? For every bad Imam there is a good one..Funny how only the bad things are shown here.
49. 47
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (01.17.07)
You are right. And I think the commentor of this program made a lot of sense. It saddens me very much that this side is all that is shown to the world - I think it would put a lot of people off from wanting to know about the true religion. Here's a website that Ive found is reasonably good: http://www.islamtomorrow.com/ It may also answer a lot of some people's questions.
50. Extremists and moderates are everywhere
Ali ,   USA   (01.17.07)
There are moderates and extremists in all schools of thought. Unfortunately, Muslim extremists are easy to spot because of their long beards, short dresses, large bellies and tendency to shout a lot (I mean no offense, I myself am one, albeit not an extremist) Oh and for the love of all that is holy, enough with the opression complex. Jews can gets visas to Dubai or anywhere else in the ME just like everyone else.
51. 5th Column UK
Mairian ,   Glasgow Scotland   (01.17.07)
Back in 87/88 C4 showed a documentary on Abu Hamsa and his cronies. The Government bodies did nothing albeit that this evidence was given. Why? The right to free speech. After voicing my worries, I was regarded as being "mad", Intolerant" etc etc. I and others who have voiced their opinions and fears, have been branded as "racists" and the "scum of the earth" by the PC brigade. For years I have advocated that a "5th Column" is present within the UK and in Europe but to no avail. I do feel for the non extremist Muslim but on the other hand, I have yet to see them marching and demonstrating against the extremists. Until I see or hear something positive being done by the non extremists, then I consider them to be the same. The majority of the PC Brigade place the blame on Messrs Bush & Blair for this radical behaviour.They conveniently forget 9/11 happened long before Iraq. Today in "The Scotsman" I read a blog in which the writer claimed that 9/11 was actually a "set-up". ( I have martians at the bottom of my garden) So, what I am trying to say is that there are many here that have their eyes open...........what happens next I do not know but eventually the PC Bubble will burst.
52. It's funny how whenever something bad happens
Micah   (01.17.07)
that the Jews may be involved with, so many Jews are quick to apologize or at least to take a stance to try to understand what goes on. Not to just agree with it and not examine it. But here, we have only 2 muslims on board, and both want to justify this hate filled garbage by saying "but you do it too!" That's a bunch of garbage. No synagogue I ever went to preached this type of shit. You know Islam is becoming more extreme every day. Where is the moderation? I'm not interested in your extremism. Get someone here who has a mind and hasn't been corrupted already. Obviously, the plan for the Moslem world is outlined in the Protocols of Zion. This fake document, that was used against the Jews, is the blueprint of the modern Islamic world. It's all projection. It's sickening and it's scary. Wise up and smell the coffee. Something must change. We will change it.
53. the hate that hate Creates
1.5 Billion muslims   (01.17.07)
If Fox news spread the hate of the muslims around the world , when tyhe muslim Population in europe live second class citizen , when Islam associated with Voilance , when it is fashionable to insult the Muslim religion and muslim people all over the westren Country , when Israel r commiting genocide against palastinian People and no body saying any thing about it, so all yo Israeli Arm chair Jihadist who like the Muslim be wipe out of the earth : what kind of love r u looking 4 , we not going to look down and take the below , we will hit u back, so please stop all this political correctness and talk about hate , the most hated and Presucated people around the world r Muslims do matter the coler of their skinn, their Orgin , their nationality ,: therfore if u hate me i will hate u back more , if u hit me , i will hit u twice so let us see were we all end up . Reality Check , world
54. not suprised.
toni ,   sabme   (01.17.07)
islam is islam ,they are true islam . they need liberation of the mind and heart. i dont want to put personal muslims down , but they have to pick themselves up . only they can do it . if they are willing they will have plenty of help.
55. no25
toni ,   sabme   (01.17.07)
what makes you a muslim? do you know your koran? can yyou use your koran to persuademe? if you can im all ears.
56. #53
jason ,   usa   (01.17.07)
1. take grammer lessons 2. belive it or not some Arabs support Israel AND Palestinians 3. Fox news isn't doing this its from UK 4.do you EVER get out of the outside world?????
57. To #28: Age
R. Alkalai ,   USA   (01.17.07)
Among Ancient Jews, marriage was arranged, but the woman did not marry and enter her husband's household until she reached womanhood. That meant she had developed pubic hair, breasts and had menstruated. Biologically, she was to be capable of conceiving and giving birth. In ancient times, the life span of people was short. Age 30 was old, to reach age 40 was very unusual. Marriage to 8 year olds, or those before puberty, was not permitted. It was, and still is, considered perverse-the sickness of pedophilia. In modern history, some sects of Jews still arrange marriages- a Shidach, but the woman does have a choice, and choses the one she likes/wants, among those her parents and rabbi feel are appropriate for her. She is generally in her early 20's. In the majority of Jewish families, marriages generally take place after a full education, both religious, and vocational-college. A Jewish marriage is meant to be a full marriage between souls, hearts, minds, and bodies. Women are regarded a human beings, not slaves, or brood mares. Only in some of the more stricter Orthodox sects, it is still very sexist/ mysogenistic. But even in those belief systems, women are to be respected, and cherished as more than just cattle.
58. Why Tolarance has run out
Robert Tilden ,   Sheridan, WY   (01.17.07)
A few weeks ago, a group of Imams were taken off a domestic American flight after some suspiceous behavior. While this could be called profiling, I agree with it. Harry Krishna hippies or Budhist munks or 20 nuns swaying in uniform back and forth would not cause as much suspiciouns as these Imams did. The reason is clear. Islam as the religion of Peace reminds me of 'The Democratic People's Tepublic of Korea' better known as North Korea, or that the Z in Nazi stands for Socialist, how social that party was, nay, sociable. Islam is so insecure of its place in the world it can't even take any criticism. Where are the Muslims who have enough faith in their religion to criticise these Imams, instead of closing the wagons around al ummaya Islamiya. Shame on Islam!
59. Whole World knew that except the British
john ,   nz   (01.17.07)
60. The 1 Billion Muslim myth!
Kronos ,   Ind   (01.17.07)
The 1 billion muslims in the world is a myth. There are fewer than 750 million and most of them are in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.. Majority of them them are poor and illiterate. Also a lot ot them are non practising muslims and a great many of them are converting to christianity in places like Iran. The 1 biilion number is a artificial show of strength when there is none, but this myth will be exposed soon.
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