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Italian church displays anti-Semitic exhibition
Yossi Bar
Published: 22.01.07, 18:06
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31. #20 less than fully informed
Jim ,   St. Louis, USA   (01.24.07)
The War of 1939-1945 was a holocaust for the entire planet. 60 million people died worldwide during that worst period of world history. 27 million in Russia alone, most of whom were civilians. Why is that special ten percent of these lost the only ones remembered today? By the way, Joe Stalin, that ally of the Americans and the British, who fielded perhaps 200 divisions of Red Army against the Nazis...had a lot more blood on his hands than Hitler. Nobody remembers that stuff, or that Germany herself lost 8 million persons; among whom very few were Nazis. Bottom line? WWII was caused by about 24 people, many of whom never heard a shot fired...got rich...and LOVED, not hated...loved MONEY and POWER, that is. You all have a right to believe and express yourselves, just as I do. There are a good many elements to the entire truth...much was and is heavily propagandized; particularly when armies have been on the march. Please be well informed!
32. ## 10 & 27 Patricia and # 31 Jim
Helen (a Catholic) ,   Stanford, CA   (01.24.07)
1.Patricia, I was not hostile at all. I was only pointing out to the fact that due to lack of knowledge of historical facts, you were offended by allusions that were bases on past events. Go read about Blood Libel and hopefully finallyyou will understand the source of remarks like using "cup of a goy boy blood", or baking Matzos ..... 2. True, millions perished during WWII , but no other nation was systematically destroyed as the Jewish People. The "Final Solution" document stated this aim clearly . Yes, Stalin was a brutal murderer who was responsible for millions of dead Russians, however if not for the Russian resolve, Nazi Germany wouldn't have been defeated. (just remember what pushed the USA into that war, at what point,and what was the position of the government on the mass murder of the Jews and others!). In any event, 61 years after the end of WWII there are still those who want to exterminate the Jews-not the other nations who were affected by the war-and some of them even deny it has ever happened.
33. To #31 Jim
Patrick ,   California   (01.24.07)
Sure, millions died during War World II, but they did not die in the hands of Jews, so what exactly is your argument? Why does it irk you that the 6 millions, the majority of European Jewry that was murdered during the Holocaust is still remembered and eulogized? Or do the survivors upset you for not dying along ?
34. A pontificator and pompous ass.
RedStarYeast ,   USA   (01.25.07)
35. Academic question
Wolfram ,   USA   (01.25.07)
Could any linguist out there tell me if there is a standard Hebrew word for "libel"? Does it appear in the old religious texts? Is there a standard Hebrew term for "blood libel"? Are there Yiddish equivalents? Please, these are not trick questions. I study languages.
36. To Lior
shiksa   (01.25.07)
I didn't really understand your posting to me. Perhaps something got cut out? Anyway, I'm sorry that I offended you. Actually, I disagreed totally with RedStar and Patricia. But I also thought your tone didn't make you any better. Anyway, a lot of what you say is true, and I'm sorry this is the case. And also again, sorry that I offended you.
37. The Sins of the Apostate Church Pile High to HEAVEN
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.25.07)
The Jewish Bible is FOREVER and CANNOT be replaced with other scriptures. Jews are G-D's witnesses, His servants His sons and daughters for ALL of eternity. G-D is faithful. G-D's character is perfect. G-D never changes. G-D keeps all His promises. The apostate church waged war against Jews and G-D: Crusades, pogroms; Inquisitions; blood libels; forced conversions; genocides; wicked lies; mass murders; the stealing of Jewish land and assets; over 80 expulsions of Jews from "Christian" Europe... The apostate church in intense, all-consuming hate for G-D, the Bible and G-D's Laws horribly persecuted and barbarically murdered Jews in the name of G-D. Their punishment from G-D will be terrifying! G-D commanded: YOU SHALL NOT MURDER G-D is merciful and wonderful beyond words to express. The Jewish prayer book honors this awesome G-D Jews love with all their heart, with these words: "Hallowed and honored, extolled and exalted, adored and acclaimed be the name of the blessed Holy One, whose glory is above all the praises, hymns, and songs of adoration which human beings can utter." The greatest scripture in the entire Bible is Deuteronomy 6:4 - it is the very essence of Judaism - total allegience to, and love for the One great G-D: Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel. The L-RD is our G-d, the L-RD is One. You shall love the L-RD your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might"
38. To No. 31
NYC Girl   (01.25.07)
One might have hoped that, by now, people would understand the unique nature of the deaths of the 6 million Jews at the hands of the Nazis. Yes, it's true that many more innocent people were murdered in addition to the Jews, but it was only the Jews who were murdered because of their race...a fact about themselves which they couldn't change. That's the reason why Jews who were atheists were murdered along with Orthodox Jews. Even Jews who, by any other standard, would have been considered Christians, were victims of the Nazis. And Hitler's goal wasn't just to rid Germany of its Jews. The Nazi death machine had spread far beyond the border of just one country, which is why the genocide against the Jews is remembered as the first attempt by a civilized nation to eradicate every single member of a particular group. And it's also the reason why the crime of genocide has its own particular designation and isn't referred to simply as mass murder.
39. to #35
Joanna ,   Sunnyvale , CA   (01.25.07)
Blood Libel means Alilat Dam in Hebrew.
40. Antiesmetic Display
Daniel Werkmeister ,   Pennsylvania, USA   (01.25.07)
This type of behavior is typical of global socialists (known as commy libs here in America) who claim to be Christians, but are not. In spite of our difference of opinion on who the Messiah may or may not be, true Christians generally support the State of Isreal. God commands us to pray for the peace of Isreal. God said that he will bless them that bless thee (Isreal) and curse them that curse thee. Putting religion aside, the very concept of American patriotism is based on the beleif that liberty is the solution to the human condition. Antisemitism is therefore un-American. Those antisemetic people in Rome are not any different than the cowardly jihadists that think that by killing other people's children they will obtain for themselves the priveledge of raping 72 other children. Don't ask me to figure out their logic. As for me, I support Isreal. Have a good one! Dan from America.
41. If she needs the wafers ..
David Joseph ,   Orlando, Florida   (01.26.07)
Let her have the wafers
42. AUSTRALIA - MUSLIM BOYS URINATED ON BIBLE
(01.27.07)
The Australian Muslim boys urinated on Bible Cameron Stewart December 06, 2006 TWO Muslim students have been expelled from an Islamic school in Melbourne for urinating and spitting on a Bible and setting it on fire. The explosive incident has forced the East Preston Islamic College to call in a senior imam to tell its 650 Muslim students that the Bible and Christianity must be respected... Anxious teachers at the school have also petitioned principal Shaheem Doutie, expressing "grave concern" about an "inculcation of hatred and radical attitudes towards non-Muslims" at the school, including towards non-Muslim teachers. The Bible desecration took place last week at a school camp held near Bacchus Marsh, about 50km west of Melbourne, attended by 33 teenage Muslim boys ranging in age from Year7 to Year 10. A school report of the incident, obtained by The Australian, says it happened late at night and involved three students and another two watching. "The main perpetrator (a Year 7 student) urinated on the Holy Bible, tore some pages from the Holy Book and burnt them then finally spat on the Holy Book," the report says. The second boy, from Year 9, "tore pages from the Holy Book and burnt them", while a third student, from Year 7, "tore pages from the Holy Bible and then he rolled it up like a cigarette and pretended to smoke it". The boys come from a variety of ethnic Muslim backgrounds -- one is believed to be an Albanian/Malaysian, another Lebanese and another Indonesian. Mr Doutie, whose school receives about $3.9 million in state and federal government funding each year, told The Australian yesterday that both he and the school community were appalled by the Bible desecration and that he had expelled the first two boys and suspended the third... But the desecration incident has shaken the nerves of the school's teachers, about half of whom are non-Muslim. A petition signed by 22 teachers expressed "anguish and dismay at the grave incident of the desecration of the Holy Bible". "This whole incident implies a deep hatred inculcated in the students towards the Christians/non-Muslim teachers," it says. The petition said there had been "previous incidents of students misbehaving towards non-Muslim teachers". It called on the school to "take steps to rectify this explosive situation" to ensure the safety of teachers... Many Muslims remain angry about the public humiliation suffered by their spiritual leader, the mufti Taj Din al-Hilali, after the Sheik likened female rape victims to pieces of meat who brought the attacks on themselves. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20879483-2702,00.html
43. Where is the Apology from the Pope and Catholic Leaders???
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.27.07)
The church exhibition is a vicious attack on G-D, the Bible, Jews and Judaism.
44. Patricia
Michel ,   Berkeley, CA   (01.27.07)
Hi Patricia - I am sure that you were not trying to offend. The reaqson why some people have a quick trigger on this is that, over the past 2,000 years, many Jews have been accused of killing Christian children to use their blood for Jewish celebrations, stealing consegrating wafers for the same purpose etc. - that's what the Blood Libel refers to. So you can understand (1) the jokes about wafers and blood and (2) the fact that people get easily angry about this. The Catholic and the Othodox churches were the primary environment for the accusations against Jews which is resulted in many killings over the centuries. Hopefully now you understand the background a lot better. You should feel free to participate in this site of course - it is for everyone. I am sure that by spending some time here you will get a chance to find out more of the special history that shaped the history of our (we the Jews) sensitivity. Wishing you the best - Michel
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