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Livni says Palestinian state is achievable
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Published: 25.01.07, 17:48
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1. how can I....
Israeli racist ,   Judea   (01.25.07)
GET INVOLVED INTHIS TROJAN HORSE GROUP, I NEED THE EXTRA SHEKELS!
2. Palestinians wants weapons & money. Nobody asking 4a State!
KMR ,   Middle East   (01.25.07)
3. Chew, chew and chew the same old gum.
Isaac Haskiya ,   Roskilde - Denmark   (01.25.07)
4. U don't freaking get it
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (01.25.07)
The Palestinians could have declared a state AT ANY TIME during the past 14 years and they would have been recognized by more countries than recognize the right of Israel to exist. The only reason they haven't declared a state is because THEY DON'T WANT THEIR OWN STATE--THEY WANT ALL OF ISRAEL.
5. Half Hearted Hogwash...
Hani   (01.25.07)
...As the settlement drive accelerates in the West Bank! Does this lady think the world is stupid to believe her lies? Israel does not reckognize Palestine, and its official behavior on the ground (as sponsored by successive governments) provides evidence for same.
6. palistinian progress
Shuli ,   Haifa, Israel   (01.25.07)
Instead of only rockets in Sederot we can depend on our "good neighbors" to share along more borders. Wait, I am forgeting about their moderate plan: we all get swimsuits, and they don't shot us until we set foot on land. Olmert and co. are sure that this will be in Israel's best nterest.
7. A palestinian state
David ,   Rhode Island   (01.25.07)
Because of the enterprising and innovative skills of the Israeli people, I would think the palestinians would want to be part of the State of Israel. Until there is a grassroots movement among them for peace and democracy I doubt that there is much hope for a viable State of Palestine.Then you would have to worry about it's destabilization by it's tyrannical neighbors.
8. Palestinian state not achievable in foreseeable future !
redmike ,   tel aviv - Israel   (01.25.07)
Apart from all of the obvious problems, who would run this State ? We see how the Palestinians run Gaza or can't run Gaza. It's about time people like Livni started speaking the truth and revealing the reality of the situation. It's like some unsaid thing that everyone knows but nobody wants to bring out into the open.
9. Hidden microphone in Olmert's office
George W ,   Chicago IL   (01.25.07)
"Of course, a Palestinian state is easily achievable, we all want peace and as soon as there is a partner for peace we will work with them.... OK, let's expand this settlement over there, another 5000 settlers would be nice, and take that hill.... What? The Tel Rumeida gang is terrorizing Palestinians in Hebron again? What do you want me to do about it? You mean it got on TV? Damn! OK, um, write something up about how appalling it is etc. Should the soldiers actually stop the settlers? Heavens no, do I look like someone who wants to commit political suicide?.... OK, let's expand the wall so it takes in another few thousand miles of the West Bank.... What? Nine more illegal settlements? Those darn settlers, we agreed it would only be seven! OK, well, run electricity and roads out to them, and put in an IDF base in each one. But if they expect to have the wall built around them, they'll just have to wait another year.... Some kid was throwing rocks in Jenin? You know the drill, don't waste my time. Either bomb his house and call him a senior Hamas terrorist, or else arrest him on some nonsense, torture him, and turn him into an informant.... Yeah, yeah, Condi Rice is on my ass again about that hag in Hebron. She's fine with the settlement being there, but we need to do some PR work. Let's announce that we will dismantle some barriers; 40 or so. Which barriers? Hmm, well actually they are all good where they are. OK, let's make up some non-existent barriers and then say we dismantled them.... OK, let's take the whole Jordan valley.... No no no, Peretz, you idiot! You weren't supposed to make that new settlement public! Now we're going to have to wait two more months to start building it.... Will someone tell Katsav to stop raping people while I'm on the phone? It's distracting.... Assad again? Why does he keep calling? Until that guy dons tefellin and starts davening, he's not a partner for peace. Same with Khaled Meshal.... Alright, the checkpoint rules for today are, no Palestinians under age 16 or over age 15.... Why the hell are the Palestinians so mad at us anyway? Obviously, all we want is peace."
10. No, no, no
Yoram ,   Tlv   (01.25.07)
It will not work, we don't need another arab/moslim country, someone open her eyes before it's too late. It will not work, there is no need for it and it will be the end of us all. Please someone, do something, if there is a God let him show himself now or he there will be not a single Jewish person left on this planet. We are marching into our death with eyes wide open led by baffoons like Livni
11. Of caurse a Palistinian
rOnit   (01.25.07)
state is achievable, lots of things are achievable, also the destruction of israel is achievable, with fools like this government everything is achievable Ronit
12. This is the only way
Jacob ,   Tel Aviv/London   (01.25.07)
This is the only way forward - we need to push from grassroots if we want the leaders to do changes. Otherwise we suffer this conflict forever, where these Palestinians are ready to stand against terror and push for Two States then we have someone to work with... I will join OneVoice
13. Worth Viewing-See for yourself!
Amy ,   NY, USA   (01.25.07)
Check out the link to the video and statements from Israeli and Palestinian moderates shown at this WEF event with Livni and Abbas: http://assets.onevoicemovement.org/
14. Living in peace side-by-side
Livni ,   moving to Dubai   (01.25.07)
With the palestinian moderates like abbas who orchestrated the Munich Massacre and admits he makes no demands of Hamas to recognize Israel is a wonderful idea. Just imagine the peaceful exchange of technology! Besides, I'll be settled in Dubai next door to Olmert and Peretz. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3357046,00.html
15. THEY WILL ALWAYS SAY THE "OCCUPATION" NOT OVER
andrew ,   miami,fl   (01.25.07)
THEY WILL CITE FLY OVERS - DRIVE BYS - THIS AND THAT... THEY WILL NEVER BE HAPPY UNTIL ISRAEL IS DEAD
16. 'compromising with extremists will not promote anything'
Cameron   (01.25.07)
amen to that, Minister Livni A 2-state reality is the rational, pragmatic answer to this grim nightmare, but where are the legions of Palis who should be endorsing & working toward this end? Are there solutions to be found by growing a beard or launching qassams? Progress does NOT grow from mayhem and anarchy, Arab World.
17. To George W in Chicago - No. 9
New Yorker ,   NY   (01.25.07)
George W from Chicago equates truth and history with a newspaper article - a sign of highly developed intellect, or whatever passes for it in his circle.
18. Achievable State
New Yorker ,   NY   (01.25.07)
Livni is half right: Palestinian state is not just achievable but is in fact achieved and around for 60 years. The name of that state is Israel. Just like Siberian state is called Russia and Amazonian state goes by the name of Brazil, for better or worse. The rest is wishful thinking.
19. phony # 12
yaakov ,   Jerusalem   (01.25.07)
Tell us the truth jacob... you are already part of this paper-straw front group for piece now... be honest leftist you are as moderate as meretz!
20. way to go, tzipi
raphael levy   (01.25.07)
We must make peace with the palestinians, no matter what!
21. One Voice is nothing but PR
Tracy W   (01.25.07)
Arabs have become very good at PR. They know it works. Would companies spend billions in advertising if it didn't ? Israelis (except for the extremely gullible), won't buy this fairytale. They are too smart for it. The Western public fell for every piece of Pallywood they produced and now it's One Voice's turn. It will get featured in every anti-Israel news and the uninformed public will unfortunately believe it, and the pro-Arabs will exploit it. It's high time Israelis started producing their own campaign of visual testimony about what really goes on in their part of the world. They need to counteract all this false Arab PR.
22. At least Peres did not give Abbas an Olmert Kissogram
Alan ,   SA   (01.25.07)
23. Why Israls sends idiots?
Alex ,   LA, USA   (01.25.07)
BothIsraeli idiots should had gone one day before the flight to Sderot, spet a night in Sderot, then would had gone from Sderot stright to Davos, and told everyone what is going on under Kassams. Then they would gain some respect from non-Jews as well as Jews. What a shame?
24. Abbas was speaking from a script
Tracy W   (01.25.07)
"An atmosphere conducive to the resumption of the peace process exists", said Abbas. Oh, please.... I really can't get it, how people of normal intelligence can listen to this kind of talk and not burst out laughing. Palestinians are a very dysfunctional society right now and it would be very unwise to hand them over the separate country Abbas seems to be talking about (when he talks to non-Arabs, that is). It's so obvious the man has been coached and was talking from a script. Everything about him, from his clothes to his choice of words and gestures have been designed so that he appears credible to Western audiences. The first step for Israel to achieve any peace and security would be new elections in Israel.
25. Livni is playing to the media because she want to be PM
zionist forever   (01.25.07)
Livni wants to replace Olmert as PM so right now she is going around saying all the right things make herself loved by the US and Israeli left. If Olmert has been bad news for Israel Livni will be even worse. The west tell her this is what we want you to give so we can have a quick fix she will smile and say just show me where to sign. Kadima has failed Israel now lets have fresh ellections let the public choose the PM they want and the policies they want their government to have right now kadima doesnt know what it stands for anymore and has a different policy everyday.
26. The longer she is on the job the more retarded Livni becomes
Chanan ,   USA   (01.25.07)
27. *** Make Me Feel It ! (Part 1)
VIT ,   USA   (01.25.07)
It's Time For A Vital Lesson From The Great People's Leader: Laika The Space Dog !!! All Progressive Leftists Must Put On Your Tin-Foil Hat To Receive This Important Communiqué ! The Great Leader Speaks.... Hello Comrades, Today's Lesson is: Conflict In The Middle East: A Progressive History (take notes) From the beginning of time, there was a place called "Palestine" which was inhabited exclusively by the biggest gift to humankind: The Palestinians. Their culture flourished, their peaceful people prospered, and their model nation was to become the jewel of the world. Their language was Arabic, their religion was Muslim (pronounced "MOOZ-lem"), but regrettably, all evidence of their governments, their currency, their laws, their scientific, technological, philosophical, and artistic accomplishments were destroyed. By whom? Keep reading. In the 1940s, Nazi Germany was determined conquer the world. They had a two-pronged strategy: 1. Exterminate gay men 2. Defeat World Socialism Led by Hitler, and funded entirely by Prescott Bush, the Nazis mercilessly committed atrocities such as having no concern for global warming and remaining silent on the issue of American slavery reparations. Fortunately, The Soviet People's Armies defeated the fascists - even though they failed to liberate Western Europe in the process. As a consequence of the European War, the Jews, as capitalist fascists, needed a place to regroup. And so, they attacked the most vulnerable people in the world: The peaceful Palestinians. Without warning, the Jewish invasion of Palestine commenced. Immediately, neighboring Arab countries tried to defend themselves against this invasion, but their pacifist ways led to a quick defeat at the hands of the violent and blood-thirsty Jews - who also exterminated most of the Palestinians. And yet, the surrounding Palestinian/Muslim population remained at peace. Frequently, the cry "Peace be upon you, Jew!" was heard from the antiwar sanctuaries called "mosques". Meanwhile, the Jews named their entity "Israel", and named their imperialistic goal of Middle East (and world) domination "Zionism". *** Stay Tuned For Part 2 ***
28. *** Make Me Feel It ! (Part 2) ***
VIT ,   USA   (01.25.07)
Laika The Space Dog Continues Lesson...(Part 2) All Leftist Progressives: Keep Your Tin Foil Hats Firmly Secured To Your Heads To Recieve The Signal ! Part Two: Over the years, Zionist aggression has taken many forms. Certainly, the 1967 and 1973 wars of conquest were a major component of their strategy. But, more recently, they have been sending Jewish teenagers into the Muslim lands to detonate themselves as suicide bombers. (If you are unfamiliar with this, may I remind you that the Jews also successfully concealed the history of the Nation of Palestine.) The Israeli parliament has made the destruction of Arab Nations their only goal. Never mind that Arab countries were repeatedly offering land to Israel to make peace. (Remember, Arabs are Sun People, and peace is the essence of their nature.) When Egypt offered the Sinai Peninsula to Israel in 1967, for instance, the Zionist response was "Death to Arabs! Death to Muslims!" And the bombings continued, as Jews murdered Arabs on buses in Cairo, in clubs in Damascus, and in mosques in Mecca. Then came "9/11" and everything changed. The Israeli secret service flew hijacked airplanes into the World Trade Center, The Pentagon, and a mosque constructed in a Pennsylvania corn field. (Assuming, of course, that the events of "9/11" happened at all.) The Amerikkkan president, George W. Bush, grandson of Nazi Prescott Bush, immediately exploited "9/11" to ally with the Zionist capitalist fascists in an all-out war against Islam, The Arabs, People of Color everywhere, and the Transgendered Community. The Holocaust began in Iraq, where Bush began to conveyor-belt our children into the Middle East Death Machine. Army Rangers, Marines, and all the other military branches comprised of our helpless little babies, were sent into the grim muddled morass of the Middle Eastern quagmire. Without a plan, without hope, and without a shred of decency, the monsters of the military went to work in the new Abu Ghraib extermination camp, though they paused when a single brave woman, Mother Cindy Sheehan, demanded that our children be returned to our bosoms. But the slaughter continued. The Amerikkkan drive for oil and the Zionist instinct for violent racial oppression worked in tandem to methodically annihilate our Islamic brothers and sisters. The Zionist rockets, thousands of them, were raining on what was left of Palestine and Lebanon -- until one day, a plea was heard from Lebanon. "Please, let us live in peace." This cry was echoed in the highest levels of government in the beleaguered Syria and Iran. "Please, can't we all just get along?" *** Stay Tuned For Part 3 ***
29. *** Make Me Feel It ! (Part 3) ***
VIT ,   USA   (01.25.07)
Laika The Space Dog Continues Lesson All Leftist Progressives: Do Not Remove Tin Foil Hats ! Part Three: Enraged, the Zionist war machine arose, and swore to obliterate any remnant of the Muslim world. The bloated Zionist pigs openly stated that their goal was world domination, and would not stop until their racist "Star of David" flew on top of every capital from Casablanca to Jakarta. Then they mercilessly attacked the Nations of Palestine and Lebanon, explicitly singling out civilians for death, torture, and the cruelest medical experiments. Worse than Hitler, indeed; this Jewish apple didn't fall far from the Nazi tree. The future is very grim. Amerikkka's complicity removed the stabilizing influence of Saddam Hussein and his benevolent heirs. The cries of anguish from the European capitals are being ignored. The progressive demonstrations are not being effective. But we can hope. We can hope for a return to a protective anti-Zionist umbrella of a reinvigorated Soviet Union under the leadership of President Putin. We can hope that the Iranian people will defend themselves from the Zionist nuclear threat. We can hope that the growing Islamic populations of Europe will be translated into political and military control. We can hope that assistance from a "white knight" such as Kim Jong-Il will be forthcoming. And we can hope for the quick destruction of the fascist, capitalist, racist, homophobic, and sexist Amerikkka, the world's second-biggest threat. To Sum Up: The world's biggest threats are Zionism, Israel and The JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS !!! Finally The Truth Is Revealed ! Here is your directive: You must send this to all your progressive units at once! Socialism depends on you comrades !!! There is no time to waste !!! ********************************* Ok...When you pick yourself up from the floor (from laughing), if you beg me nicely I'll post again. Make Me Feel It !
30. Bravo to VIT of USA
Ima Bleever ,   Anytown USA   (01.25.07)
I think I'm in love.
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