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Haredi crusade against immodest clothing goes up in flames
Neta Sela
Published: 26.01.07, 03:28
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31. Uh oh, my sister is in trouble...
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (01.26.07)
My mom is always yelling at her that the bottom of her shirt and the top of her skirt don't always meet in the middle. Sometimes, horror of horror, she even wears JEANS and a short sleeved T shirt.
32. Haredi burning clothes
robin ,   Israel   (01.26.07)
Just get it over with you taliban wannabees,give the women burkas that only allow their eyes to show, itsn't that what you are aiming for? All of this so that the Haredi men who cannot control their sexual urges any other way won't have to. If they make the women more unseen then they feel superior, well I have news for you, we are all created in Gds image, and are all his children and he loves us all equally regardless of our sex, race or religious background.
33. when you are in the neighborhood . . .
Steve G ,   Kew Gardens, NY, USA   (01.26.07)
To the person who wrote: "I agree fully that when in chareidi areas, we must dress accordingly, or not go there" I agree completely. And when the chareidi men and women go to other neighborhoods they should put on zoot suits and two dollar hooker outfits. . . . . it's only fair (by your reasoning)
34. Interesting What Is *NOT* On List
emanon ,   USA   (01.26.07)
Hmmm . . . Let's see . . . If we assume "That which is not prohibited is allowed", then on the OK list we could find: Thong Style Underwear G-Strings ahem . . . "Open" Underwear Stiletto Heels Push-up Brassieres Other "Body Enhancers" You get the idea. Not only that, there's no restrictions for MENS wear mentioned. Is it OK for men to wear tight pants, Hawaiian shirts, etc. With all the concern for modesty, kind makes you wonder if Haredi are in danger of becoming an endangered species ;-) Oh yeah, this actually happened: I went to a Bat Mitzvah and one of the girls, from a religious family, wore a very plain non-revealing blouse, topped with a nice open sweater, and an open weave (VERY open weave) ankle length skirt and a VERY brief thong. So tell me, how serious do they really take this?
35. TO NO# 5 WHO THINKS THAT Y-NET IS DEMONIZING
HARED ,   YERUSHALYM   (01.26.07)
LET ME GUESS... ARE YOU A HAREDI? NO NEED FOR ANSWER, A GUT SHABAS
36. TO NR # 11
HARED ,   YERUSHALAYM   (01.26.07)
LET ME GUESS, YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE CONVERTS WHO BECAME A HAREDI AND DON'T DOESN'T SPEAK HEBREW AND LEAVES ON THE MONEY OF THOSE WHO WORK, kol ha'kavod, AH, YOU MUST BE LIVING IN A CHAREDI AREA, YOU WANT A GHETTO? WHY IS NOT ALLOWED TO STEP IN THAT AREA, SHOULD YOU BE ALLOWED TO GO OUT, OF COURSE, YOU WILL RAISE YOUR VOICE OTHER WISE AND DEMONSTRATE, IN ENGLISH OR DUTCH OR WHATEVER YOUR ORIGINAL LANGUAGE IS COMPLAINING OF DISCRIMINATION
37. Bal Tashchit
Reuven Carmel ,   JERUSALEM, Israel   (01.26.07)
...is a Torah prohibition. Those clothes could have gone for a useful purpose, even if for rags or stuffing or to make quilts. What we are seeing today in the Charedi world is not an honest form of Judaism.
38. ISRAEL HAS STRIP CLUBS? IT JUST CAN'T BE.
DEBRA ,   USA   (01.26.07)
I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS. JUST CANNOT.
39. For every story on YNet bashing Hareidim
Besalel ,   Kew Gardens, NY   (01.26.07)
there is a story in the American media indicating that the Haredim are actually the ones that have a better idea of what it takes to live in the 21st Century: see, e.g., http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/01/25/same.sex.schools.ap/index.html
40. #5 doing it again
Edithann ,   USA   (01.26.07)
If you don't believe it, then what are the settlers doing barging into Palestinian homes? Are those also lies? Are you angry that the truth is being told by Yetnews? Seems like you don't mind terrible behavior, you just don't want anyone to know about it!
41. What is Modesty?
Ami ,   USA   (01.26.07)
Gee, what is the big fuss about those kind of clothes? Clothes is a cultural and religious issue. I wear jeans and shirts. I am modest because I don't go out and expose my breasts in a revealing shirt to anyone. I prefer to wear jeans because no man can get in there. Did you know in the old testament (to you Israelis - torah and writings) that men were supposed to wear skirt while women were supposed to pants??!! So I consider myself more religious and more modest than you men. These hareidi are twisted and dirty in their mind.
42. Freedom
Joycee ,   isreal   (01.26.07)
What is happening to Israel...where is freedom of expression. Not everyone is religious.....not everyone agrees to the same law. Who made these Khardi people head of Israel...
43. Equal opportunity Critic
Michelle T   (01.26.07)
What is it with these men, Haredi and Muslim alike, that they can't control their lust at the sight of a fully dressed female???
44. Dear Shalom (#5)
Joan ,   Haifa   (01.26.07)
I wasn't worried about anyone coming for my or my neighbors' wardrobe(s). Obviously these people are concerned, as you say, with their own communities. Interesting you should mention, as an example of something terrible that is happening, people dying of cancer. Perhaps instead of or in addition to worrying about skirt-slit lengths and whether clothes are too form-fitting (what are they doing looking so closely anyway?), it might be a good idea to look at *externals* like pollution, bad eating habits, etc.
45. no2 madonnas bra
(01.26.07)
its not madonnas bra that s his
46. chillul hashem ..you dont know the meaning of HILLUL HASHEM
TAKE A CLASS ,   LEARN ........DACON9   (01.26.07)
47. think about it
popo   (01.26.07)
aparently israel is a democratic country as long as its not a religious area
48. 19..YOU DO NOT LIVE BY THAT COMMUNITY STANDARDS
'YOU' ARE EXTREME 19 ,   THEY ARE NOT   (01.26.07)
49. The packing
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.26.07)
Those people look only at the packing . They think that if the packing [ clothes ] are fine , the content is good . There is a French proverb : the robe does'nt make the monk . You can be clothed by "halacha" and be a w....And wear transparent shirts , and be the most serious woman there is on earth .
50. Appropriate clothing !
Marcel Abel ,   France   (01.26.07)
Dressed any way (Women), it depends on men (Haredi too) to control their desire. It is good education from women not to be (too much) alluring and from men not to be debauched, profligate versus shameless hussy. Are dresses long enough on the Web ? Of course, in holy or near holy places, in synagogues, mosques, temples and churches, men and women should wear "modest" clothes, the so-called "Appropriate clothing must be worn". But why all this shouting ?
51. study in modesty is interesting
marilyn   (01.27.07)
Those who desire to do the will of God, know women are to dress modestly. But in my understanding , i have found that 'modesty' differs from country to country and even from individual to individual. I believe that a persons conscience knows when one has dressed modestly. And I believe one knows when one has dressed to entice.I also have come to believe that when in someone elses terroritory there should be respect shown to the traditional collective view on modesty. In new Guinea when the missionaries first came they viewed the women as immodest, but the women were very modest in their own eyes, and the evil was in the eye of the missionary who only saw bad.
52. #49 Charles - I agree with you!
MT ,   Canada   (01.27.07)
53. What a bunch of nut jobs. Whats the matter
Allan ,   Haifa   (01.27.07)
bubbelehs, momma didn't give you enough attention growing up? Get over yourselves already.
54. to #14
mark ,   ca   (01.27.07)
Let me put this way.The ONLY good looking women in today's Israel are mostly Russian.Fact :-)))
55. Clothes burner
Yael   (01.26.07)
If he's burning a bra, I want to see who went in it!!!
56. I have solution to problem
Negru Voda ,   Transilvania   (01.27.07)
I have Road Map for solving Israel problem. Peoples talk about "Two State Solution". That stupid! Israel need "Five State Solution"! That way everybody happy. Good idea, not?
57. Who needs the Taliban?
Merle ,   Southpark   (01.27.07)
58. (#56) Yes, it is, indeed! (END)
Marcel Abel ,   France   (01.27.07)
59. so it's ok to wear pants...........
darom   (01.27.07)
60. This is simply another way for these religious
Allan ,   US   (01.27.07)
fanatics to control women. As far as they are concerened, women are nothing more than chattel.
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