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Adolescents burn Israeli flag, mezuzahs
Avi Cohen
Published: 30.01.07, 12:03
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31. I Thought Right To Return Was Only 4
1.5 Billion Muslims   (01.30.07)
THE JEWS !!!!!! I did not know israel was well coming every body to immagarete to Israel : what About Demographic Question or this means every body well come but not ARABS: why Leiberman silent this situation , i thought he was Self -select savior of Jews people in Israel Reality Check , World
32. #30 HAHAHAHAHA
(01.30.07)
That's why ALL seculars blamed all orthodox after Rabin was shot, LOL Gimme a break you secularists are pretty much the same
33. The parents are to blame
Chaya ,   BAT YAM   (01.30.07)
I live in Bat Yam and I didn't hear about it! I believe that the parents are to blame. Perhaps they are out of work and express their dissatisfation and hatred in front of their children. If the parents were satisfied with their lives, this would not happen. These are angry children who need counseling!
34. Send them to Yeshiva
S Judah ,   London   (01.30.07)
35. send them back to Russia with BIG KICKS
(01.30.07)
36. Rebellious kids... Get over it, people... You're so uptight!
Joshua   (01.30.07)
37. Will they be given Consequences for their Evil behavior?
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.30.07)
Hatred for Judaism is the same as hating G-D and hating G-D's Laws given to Moses - especially the 10 commandments. Under strict supervision, the boys must be made to experience a number of consequences for their destructive vandalism. One of the consequences should be cleaning streets, schools, parks and buildings. It will be very destructive to the boys (and Israel) if the boys do not experience consequences.
38. antisemitic youth
rania ,   tel aviv   (01.30.07)
that's what happens when you bring antisemitic goyim to Israel- about time you reevaluated the law of return! Send them back to Russia- as always they bite the hand that feeds them!
39. Send them back- they do not deserve to be here
elianna ,   USA   (01.30.07)
40. Our soul is in our children
Anna ,   Canada   (01.30.07)
Those kids where psychologically and maybe physically abused by their parents, they where neglected by the school, and forgotten by the society. Just by the description of their actions it seen they are desperate. Now instead of blaming each other we have to reroute the unfortunate future and to prevent it from the repetition. Israel gave them opportunity to settle. It was their parents choice, and Israel agreed. Now it’s time to adopt them and to turn them in the normal people. !12-15 year olds are the most vulnerable. By sending them to prison we’ll create the monsters. By sending those kids to their troubled past we’ll give them an opportunity to spread their hatred even more. The government has to give a special treatment to the new young immigrants. They are the future face and welfare of the Israel.
41. Answer to #10
(01.30.07)
"Quote #10:They need to be shown the true face of Jewish society which is a loving and caring society>> But they've already been 'show', the Jewish community..and are saying by their actions that it's not so loving and accepting..... YOu are dismissing their reality.. Maybe you should stop and think ..They might have a point that you are missing and maybe what you see of the society isn't what others see...
42. Yael - Tel Aviv
leon ,   Grand Rapids USA   (01.30.07)
Balderdash !
43. Dangerous
Jonathan and Mollie ,   US   (01.30.07)
We have read other accounts about the behavior of these boys and it is obvious that they are showing classical signs of remorseless psychopaths and mentally ill students. According to these accounts, these boys have abused animals, played with fire, spread feces, and have delved into Satanism. Whether any of them can be salvaged now is questionable. In any case, these kids need to be institutionalized long term and professionals should at least try to change some of their behavior. Merely incarcerating them for a number of years will do nothing as they will become even more dangerous as they become men.
44. Joshua's response is typical of the old saying that shallow
Phil ,   US   (01.30.07)
There is an old saying that goes like this: shallow brooks are noisy and that best describes Joshua's ignorant reply abour being too uptight about rebellious teens. Obviously, Joshua's knowledge of psychopathology is very miniscule so he compensates by making a ridiculous accusation. In fact, these boys are showing clear signs of serious personality and mental problems. This is just not adolescent rebellion. Cruelty to animals (this was reported in another article), setting fires, destroying religious symbols, fan cying themselves as satanic, and spreading feces are all indicators of future criminality and/or mental illness and not examples of teenage rebellion. Joshua, do yourself a favor. Do some research before you give your opinion.
45. COUPLE REMARKS FOR WAR-MONGERING COMMENTS!
Orev ,   Germany   (01.30.07)
1) In NO place there is any mention that these kids are Russians. It can be everything, how did you came to conclusion that these are Russians? 2) They come from broken families. I know that many war-mongers here never truly experienced destruction of family - I think you should work at kid's shelters for a while to see reality, not hide behind mother's shirts for rest of your life - but expulsion is not solution. Help, yes. Psychologist, yes. Expulsion - no. 3) Some of these kids are JEWISH. Will you expell them too? Or, if not, and other do, then you have a serious problem - you expelled somebody based on his religious and etnic characteristic. A VERY dangerous precedance.
46. b"LOL"mert, Peretz & fellow Kapos Are Saying:GREAT JOB BOYS!
Bruno ,   telaviv   (01.30.07)
WOW!! They're even kicking our butts at destroying the jewish state cause they're getting such an early start. Just think how great they'll be when they get to our age, that is if we leave any thing left.
47. hating Israel and Jews
Maurice C ,   Ireland   (01.30.07)
I think it is good time to make a stand with these kids and their families. Put them on a plane with their families and send them back to where they came from. If they dont like it here - they don't have to stay. By sending them to juvenile detention will only increase their dislike of the country and it's people.
48. The price of right-wing immigration policies
Karen R ,   USA   (01.30.07)
The right-wing immigration policies of getting as many non-Arab bodies as possible to Israel to balance the Arab demographic "threat" (i.e. put more Jews into the territories so they can be annexed) is to blame here. Encouraging non-Jewish families (with in many cases only one Jewish member two generations back) to immigrate only leads to disillusionment on the part of children. Even the teenage children of motivated American Zionist immigrants can have trouble coping - how much more so kids who aren't even Jewish. In the name of promoting Zionism and annexing "Greater Israel" there is now a large number of people who are not Zionist or even pro-Israel and Jewish. I am very much in favor of the Law of Return (I once immigrated under it myself) but encouraging non-Jews to come to Israel is asking to hurt everyone involved. There is an Arab "demographic threat" only if Israel is trying to annex the territories, so let's quit with the nonsense and go back to old-fashioned Zionism.
49. Adolescents burn Israeli Flag
Oskar Prager ,   Petach Tikva   (01.30.07)
In reply to No.9 of Talkback, please note that whilst you are right that the religious should serve in the Army, you will find in the Hebrew version of Yedioth today, page 12, that a third of the immigrants from Russia prefer not to join the army. And they are not religious Jews, possibly not even Jews. So just keep this in mind before you blow off .
50. To the self-righteous Phil
Joshua   (01.30.07)
You have no idea whatsoever of my qualifications. I wasn't saying they shouldn't be dealt with... Of course it's a serious problem that should be dealt with by law enforcement and psychology professionals. But it's not because everyone hates Haredim, and it's certainly not the end of the world. That the same people who in other talkbacks were bashing gays have their panties in a bunch over symbols is telling... That's all. By the way, next time instead of bloviating, I recommend succinctness. It's less of a waste of everyone's time. Thanks! *kiss*
51. Yes to #43
(01.30.07)
52. hates Judaism
Hilda ,   USA   (01.30.07)
This is the saddist article I've read . If they hate Judaism so much what are they doing in Israel? Why are they allowed to be in Israel. Their homes should be investigated and their immigrant status removed that family returned to from whence they came. Surely Israel has enough tzores and enemies that they do not need to import them.
53. Practical & Goodwilled Response
(01.30.07)
I fully agree with #10. There is a lot of reputable, scientific evidence that punishment alone, without rehabilitative therapy, education, vocational training, spiritual guidance, and so on, does nothing but produce more hardened criminals. Young people have the best chance of changing; and even if you don't care abou the kids (your anger is understandable), care about yourselves and do what you can to nip their misguided, violent ways in the bud. wouldn't you rather spend money on this and then send them back into society, perhaps to guide other teens away from violence, than pay much more money to keep them revolving through courts, jail, and cleaning up their violent messes for the next 70 years? Also, their families need intervention so the kids don't just get dumed back into a bad situation. My one question is if they are all new immigrants, why are most of them not Jewish? Who is elligible for naturalization (as opposed to aliya)?
54. #36 - What if they were Arab kids? Would U just "Get over it
(01.30.07)
Seems there is a double standard here. And that is one of the real shames.
55. leon #42 - it figures you're from MI
(01.30.07)
someone from a state known in its own country for draconian social welfare policies for ignoring impoverished, crime-ridden areas (think: detroit) has dubious credibility on these matters.
56. israeli teens
sas ,   israel   (01.30.07)
sad sad sad. something is rotten in our school system if teenagers are doing these things,
57. #48 Karen R, return the aliyah packet you stole!
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (01.30.07)
You accepted the aliyah packet and then went back to live in the U.S. and spew anti-Israel propaganda? So in addition to being a self-loathing leftist you are also a THIEF.
58. show a little respect
(01.30.07)
the land of israel did not belong to herzl you should show not some respect but RESPECT
59. Sending Youth back to their country would be doing a FAVOR
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.30.07)
"We loath Jews and anything related to the Jewish faith," six adolescent said, stunning police investigators. But before the youth are sent back, they must first clean streets, parks and buildings.
60. #43 Yes - the youth are a big danger to society
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.30.07)
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