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Austria: Neturei Karta rabbi's children expelled
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Published: 08.02.07, 02:44
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31. sad for the children
charles ,   petach tikva   (02.08.07)
They are not responsible for acts comitted by their father . Some religious say that children were murdered during the Shoa because of the sins their parents had comitted . This is of course not acceptable . Those children are already punished enough by having such a father .
32. No Media objectivity
Abdullah   (02.08.07)
The media is absolutely amazing for its totally lack of objectivity. Sadly in this case it leads to people having a distorted view of who NK are and what are their goals. For a start, they certainly are not holocaust deniers. On the surface their intentions appear to be aimed at saving Israeli Jewish and Arab lives in israel/yesha. And ENSURING Jewish continuity in israel/yesha in peace and freedom. So that Jews do not hae to live in a fortress surrounded by a sea of hostility. They are anti-zionists in the traditional jewish sense of the word (I think). And traditonal jewish anti-zionism is not anti-jewish. Consider the fact that zionism is not necessarily synonimous with "being jewish" either be it secular or religious. How else can you explain the fact that Jews from muslim countries who kept their religion for over a millenia under muslim domination lost a large part of it in half a century in the jewish state? Its absurd. You may disaggree with NK but do not "libel" them. Know ALL the facts. And do not persecute them for having a different vison of how to save jewish lives, even if you doubt the validity of their method. If you're religious remember G-d stands with the oppressed and those who seek justice (שלא משוחדים).
33. to # 10
charles ,   petach tikva   (02.08.07)
Their school was a Jewish one , and certainly a religious one .
34. Dr. Jack is right
Naomi ,   Israel   (02.08.07)
The OTHER parents will remove their kids from this school, as it's fee paying. Let the scumbag send his kids to an austrian school, or publicly state that he's a scumbag, and publicly beg forgiveness, for his unforgiveable deeds, as his children are more important to him than anything else. The governors, staff and parents of the private school have first choice here. They can decide whether to accept scumbag's apology.His place is not among them, and this is a situation he has caused. Of course we cause strife to our children. Many of our deeds humiliate them, and they are innocent victims. Every scandal affects families, so keep this 'blame the bible' krap out of this.The bible points out to us, and has to deal with, our own rotten nature, it doesn't create it. We do that for ourselves.That's the way the cookie crumbles. Where was MAN during the Shoah, by the way? Man was scum, the perpetrators AND the world, who knew full well what was happening.
35.  to 22
one who knows   (02.08.07)
Tyrants and bullies explain nothing to their children. They just rule and dictate, and have the upper 'hand' as well generally, if the kids dare ask, which they learn, pretty early in life, not to do.
36. Good! nay, GREAT!!! - Hasta LaVista
Isabella ,   Israel   (02.08.07)
don't let the door hit you on the way out! - LOL
37. Sucks to be his kids
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (02.08.07)
I feel sorry for these kids, having such a freaking nutbag for a father. There is not much hope for them, they will grow up to become Moslems, or Christians.
38. don't accept Jewish "converted" kids; forced conversion
(02.08.07)
but a little problem; there is no religion which is called "Holocaust denial" to force them converting to ! another little bit larger problem; they were born to Jewish parents and Jewish grand parents; they have to change the whole rules of the game! didn't they bombed the Holocaust survivors' ship - in a "forced suicide" scene- off the shores of the to be Israel. Again they are the same same Zionists as before
39. A Lubbavitcher Rabbis children asked my Jewish Kids what....
Alan ,   SA   (02.08.07)
Church they went to.!!
40. Now, the Jews should...
Steven ,   Los Angeles USA   (02.08.07)
Now the jews should purge every unclean person from Israel like God asked of them many times in the Torah. On second thought, would there be anyone left? Maybe just a handfull.
41. TOTAL CHEREM against Netura Kartei
Meir Elazar   (02.08.07)
This is a good example of the start. It means no NK children in Jewish schools. It means that they should not be allowed in Jewish stores. They should be thrown out of Jewish hospital emergency rooms, evicted to the streets by Jewish landlords. In short, FULL AND TOTAL CHEREM - EXCOMMUNICATION until they become extinct, assimilated, or just gone.
42. From our Prayers - "VeLaMalshinim Al T'hi Tikva"
Meir Elazar   (02.09.07)
To those who would defend the NK, especially of the Orthodox, look at the prayers in the Amidah - "VeLaMalshinim Al T'hi Tikva" - "For those who betray us, Let there be no hope". The rabbis added this prayer to the Alidah service long ago to help identify those who betrayed our people knowing that such traitors would not say Amen to this prayer and could be sought out to be removed from our communities. This prayer is very relevant today with such traitors mingling in Teheran in the midst of one of the largest gatherings of people who advocate our destruction, kissing and hugging our greatest enemies. Don't just blindly recite the prayers without understanding their meanings. On Purim you will remember Haman who also sought our destruction. But in the meantime remember our responsibility to root out evil such as NK each time you recite the "VeLaMalshinim Al T'hi Tikva".
43. expulsion from school
Hilda ,   USA   (02.09.07)
I'm not sure the children should suffer for the transgressions of the father. I realize this is more American than Jewish which says should suffer to the 4th ? generation or something likje that. The parents should be shunned of course. I would even like to see the children removed from the parent's entirely because as long as they remain under the influence of the father, they will continue his brainwashing. The children should be reeducated. and reprogramed.
44. Dear Meir Elazar
Abdullah   (02.09.07)
You said: To those who would defend the NK, especially of the Orthodox, look at the prayers in the Amidah - "VeLaMalshinim Al T'hi Tikva" - "For those who betray us, Let there be no hope". Abdullah: You suggest that this may apply to some members of NK. I am no expert in these matters. But in what way (בדקדוק) are these Jews comparable to the traitors referred to in the "blessing". The traitors referred to in the "blessing" were collaborators with the Roman occupiers. The traitors were "romanised" in ideology and religion, and perhaps benefitted materially in someway from the Romans. At a time when traditional Jewish observance was viewed with suspicion as "extreme" by the occupiers, these traitors spied on the traditional Jewish community and reported to the Romans. Resulting in persecution of traditional Jews and in apostacy from Judaism. IMHO the "blessing" about "minim" (apostates from Judaism) and "malshinim" (informers) was intended for such people, whose intention was to destroy traditional Judaism and lead Jews away from the Jewish traditions of their ancestors. And who had the support and power of the ruling Romans behind them, making them particulary dangerous. You appear to suggest that those few NK members involved in traditional jewish anti-zionism fall into this category. With the limited info. available to me, I, repectfully disagree. Respectfully
45. finally
Jessie ,   Atlanta, USA   (02.26.07)
finally, this guy is strating to get what he deserves!
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