Opinion  Nahum Barnea
Arabs betray America
Nahum Barnea
Published: 12.02.07, 11:41
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1. Please, dont forget Rice called the Hamas ResistanceMovement
Alan ,   SA   (02.12.07)
2. probaganda
ali ,   palestine   (02.12.07)
do any one belive that saudi king or abbas do not take in cosideration the american respons, or do you feel that its better to israel that the palestinians fall in an interior bloodshed?. the american agenda now is to submit iran, so it is worthy to make the palestine-israel strugle at an acceptable mode. you must look for the garbage under the carpet. you will find rice, olmert, abbas, abdallah (2),meshaal,and others>
3. No, they are just realised that Bush is a fool!
Palestinian   (02.12.07)
4. The Arabs Are Everyones Enemy
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (02.12.07)
First, they are obviously our enemy. Forget "moderates" - this is just science fiction. Then, the Arabs are the enemy of America & the West in general. Even the Muslims in Europe are against the societies in which they live, strangely, in alliance with various crackpot leftists (we have a few ourselves). But even stranger, the Arabs are their own worst enemy - everything they do is counter-productive & leads to a collection of failed states mired in conflict & violence and unable to deliver anything resembling a prosperous, modern, free society. So Ms Rice & other world leaders have been amazingly delusional in formulating policy. What will it take to wake them up? Maybe a nuclear attack by Iran.
5. Good morning America
Uzi ,   Haifa   (02.12.07)
I haven't visited the US for almost 30 years and wondered about this TV programme.
6. Nahum Barnea, you are making too much out of this Mecca
Uzi ,   Haifa   (02.12.07)
thing. It may well prove to be the most spectacular non-event of the month. They need to work out and conclude many 'details' and will be at each other throat within days rather than weeks. If you can't trust the Arabs then you can't trust anybody. By the way, there are already stories about abductions and other 'provocations' to which these guys respond quite readily.
7. Why shouldn't they betray America? Americans just don't unde
an Israeli   (02.12.07)
understand the Middle East. All of the Moderate Regimes such as Jordan, Egypt, or even Saudi Arabia pay an enormous price for their leaning towards America's interests in the region. Their publics hate them for it and they limit their own center "card" to stability: making it seem as if they take the liberties away from their people to protect them from the west and protest Islam values. But they still cooperate with American interests and cooperate with fighting terror and moderation, because they also get in return or should I say used to be getting in return a huge advantage over the axis of evil regimes such as the Syrian one or the Iranian one. They got good relationship with the world's supper power and financial advantages for trades and such along with the cooperation for their interests. But the last year or so all that has changed. Iran is twisting America's arm, not to mention the obscene financial lottery ticket Iran was offered in return for stopping its nuclear program. US senators have been marching up to Assad as the new celebrity and the US MSM has practically made him the new black. He is treated as the Messiah. I'm not sure whether it's because he assassinated Lebanese by the dozens or provided Hizb-Allah with arms or is hosting terror organizations very kindly, or hosting Saddams' WMD. Just pick one, and the conclusion is very straightforward: it doesn't pay to disassociate your self with the axis of evil. US has changed the rules, and the thugs hit the homerun.
8. America Betray Arabs Long Time
1.5 Billion Muslims   (02.12.07)
Reality Check , World
9. Flat tires
Atilla Karagözoğlu   (02.12.07)
all the names all the talks weak...weak...weak.
10. silly
Yisraeli   (02.12.07)
silly american administration what do they know of the middle eastern bazaar horse trading. nothing. it shows. nor do most Israeli politicians for that matter. how else did we come by the Oslo trojan horse.
11. At #2
withheld ,   Copenhagen, Denmark   (02.12.07)
Dear Ali... Narhum Barnea utilizes his right to air his opinion... That is all. When you go shouting propaganda, you are raising a red flag with no basis. In fact what this is, is one mans view on this, nothing more and nothing less. It should only encourage others to have their own opinion on matters of politics, not take away your individual opinion.
12. Arabs are not US friend
Hilda ,   USA   (02.12.07)
It is no surprise that Israelis hate Condi brcause she is part of the American State Department Cabal of anti-semites who are out to destry Israel. Mr. Bush may think he is Israel's friend but in fact he is being led by the nose by this Cabal. No matter what the Arabs do Bush is determined to set up another enemy terrorist nation on Jewish land. This in spite of the fact that it is shown that they hate America as much as they hate Israel .
13. give abbas more money and more weapons
Igor ,   NZ Pardise on earth   (02.13.07)
Both Israel and the US gave Abbas recently weapons and money. The weapons will turn no doubt against Israeli soliers. Money will buy more ammunition. Unfortunately this cunning little man is much wiser than your elected leader Olmert. Unless Israel stop and rethink the whole situation, starting by sending this disfunctional government home, there we be more Jewish deaths!
14. Rice plays the piano while the Middle East burns. She also
Apartheid ,   Boston USA   (02.13.07)
recites platitudes about freedom and democracy. Her credibility was long gone before this.
15. Arab loyalty to America.
Dr.Joji Cherian ,   Aluva India   (02.13.07)
Tell me one reason why Arabs should be loyal to America? On the other hand it is America wich should be loyal to the arabs for proping up the American economy and dollar.Americans are ungreatful to Amerca. In fact traitors to the Arabs.
16. Why do I get the feeling that cultivating Sunnis is going to
Judith in Haifa   (02.13.07)
back fire. The experience with the Arab world is that no matter who you cultivate in the Arab world, they end up hating and fighting you. Maybe the West should stop cultivating the uncultivable.
17. Our Indian friend #15
Hilda ,   USA   (02.13.07)
has been smoking his opium pipe. and dreaming crazy dreams.
18. Cultivating Arab World.##16
Dr.Joji Cherian ,   Aluva India   (02.13.07)
How have you been cultivating Arab World all these years? Depriving water that is due to them, targeted assasinations, soldiers breaking limbs of teenagers, bombing their infrastructure, baning their movements, confining them to open jails?You are commiting every atrocities on them that your resources permit.Some cultivation!!
19. Joji Cherian #15, #18 What a crap!
Brod ,   USA   (02.13.07)
What a crap! This is the talk of Islamist-Jihadists. How about those Indians who have been blown into smithereens by Islamist-Jihadist bombs in India? How about Israelis and Americans who have been blown into smithereens by Arab Islamist-Jihadist bombs? The fact is the Arab Islamist-Jihadists are not peaceful people. They are masters in the art of deceptions, manipulations, suicide bombings, hate, killing, mayhem and destruction since their emergence in the 7th century. This is because as Omar Abdel Rahman says, "there is a whole surah [chapter] called 'Spoils of War.' There is no surah called 'Peace.' Jihad and killing are the head of Islam. If you take them out, you cut off the head of Islam." (p.24, "Islam and Terrorism" [2002] by Mark A. Gabriel, PhD)
20. first answer these quetions before making your proposals
chaim ,   miami beach USA   (02.13.07)
A hypothetical event Headline AP reports a barrage of surface to surface missiles landed in and around Nogales, Arizona, no injuries or appreciable damage reported. Nogales AZ. USA. AP. During the previous 24 hour period, a total of 15 surface to surface rockets struck this border community, making this the 456 straight days that this United States Mexican border town was subject to a daily barrage of rockets. These attacks are a direct result of American policy towards deporting any illegal immigrants entering the USA from the Mexico. The United Nations Security Counsel was convened at the behest of the Cuban representative joined by Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela, to condemn the Unites States for their indiscriminate return fire that injured a innocent family pet in the Mexican part of Nogales. President H. Unfit expressed her deepest apology for the pain and suffering of the innocent animals, but defended the American action as being a necessary response to the continued unprovoked terrorists action that it is suffering This dispute according to Mexican members of their parliament will only be resolved when The United States removes any vestige of American occupation of what was previously known as Mexican territory which is illegally occupied by the USA in excess of 100 years. President H. Unfit assisted by the Secretary of Defense and Foreign Minister, are ignoring the pleas of help from the effected areas partly because the casualty count has not reached unacceptable proportions yet the real purpose of this fictional news article is multi faceted that must be taken into account when making any proposals the following facts are irrefutable 1.Israel is a recognized independent Country for almost 60 years 2.Israel was forced to fight and defend herself against her surrounding and distant Arab countries when it was established 3. Israel borders were never recognized by her neighbors so to proclaim any demarcation line as a recognized border when such demarcation lines were never recognized at any time is sheer lunacy 4.If the 1949 unrecognized demarcation lines can be the only recognized borders and any area beyond them is occupied territories and against International Law just what makes the 1949 lines if such were not accepted or recognized, lawful 5.If Israel were to return to the 1949 demarcation lines just why should the Islamic dominated countries cease from instituting and attack Israel historically the Arabs never respected it and committed acts of war from 1949 through 1967 with the knowledge that if they lose the war, with time and terror Israel will under the worlds pressure have to return each and every inch that was lost due to their belligerent war. 6.the territories Israel seized by the Arab instituted wars were abandoned by their previous governments so why does Israel have to surrender any area to create a new Arab country that has in its charter to destroy Israel. 7.Is the threat of acts of terror so debilitating that Israel is prohibited from building or developing any area belonging to Israel that the entire world trembles from such threats 8. At what point in history does the rights of the indigenous conquered inhabitants lose title to their lands, is it 10, 20, 30, 50, 60, 100, or 1,000 years. 9. Just what is international law and just how is it formulated and its legality is based upon and it is enforceable, it certainly cannot be the United Nations Charter or any such body as they have been proven to be corrupt, biased, and totally ineffectual in preventing despots from murdering their own citizens . 10 Is their any formula that is established or acknowledged for responsive military defensive measures to be "Measured' or what criteria is used to be considered as them as being excessive. maybe if all the above have intelligent answers that may give some insight in how to make peace Chaim Grosz
21. Get rid of RIce
John   (02.13.07)
No one has respect for Rice. She is a robot who keeps saying the same B.S. over and over. They should send a man from America who knows what he is doing.
22. ignoring Rice
peter ,   amsterdam, NL   (02.13.07)
Condy is the present U.S. secretary of foreign affairs but she's not terribly effective, due to her close allegiance with the present president. Come to think of it Colin Powell wasn't very effective as foreign secretary either and he wasn't close to G. W. Bush. It's Vice President Cheny that calls the shots with G.W. as mouthpiece. Even European countries are not very impressed by Rice's flying diplomacy visits so who can blame the Arab League for sitting on the fence on this one. They might get burned following Rice without backup. She can't follow through on what she preaches.
23. Chaim #20
Brod ,   USA   (02.13.07)
This should not be a big concern because it is the Arab Islamist-Jihadists who are the occupiers and usurpers of Jewish or Israel's land. Parts of ancient Israel are still being occupied by Arab Islamist-Jihadist countries such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. Israel inherited her land from her forefathers--Abraham, Isaac and Jacob 4000 years ago. Israel's Land Title is clearly spelled out in the Holy Bible, Ancient History and Biblical Archaeology. Just as Spain and Eastern Europe did in the Medieval when they defended and liberated their historic homeland from the Islamist-Jihadist occupiers, Israel defended and liberated her biblical and historic homeland from the Arab Islamist-Jihadist occupiers the past 60 years. The past 60 years, Israel fought for its survival against the combined invading armies of the surrounding Arab Islamist-Jihadist countries and won. It is therefore none of the business of the Arab countries and their manipulated cohorts at the UN to interfere in Israel's internal affairs. It has nothing to do with Arab land as the Arabs fantasize. The land of Israel including Judea and Samaria belong to the Jewish people since ancient time. Israel should not be disturbed one bit with all the craps from the Islamist-Jihadist world and those they have contaminated and manipulated. They can shout as much as they want but it does not change the fact that Israel belongs to the Jewish people. What Israel should do is to counter the Arab contamination of the Middle East issue. Israel should educate the world that Israel has been in existence for the past 4000 years and she has no plan to give away her own tiny land to the Arab Islamist-Jihadists who are hellbent on the destruction of Israel as their Charter clearly states.
24. Ameirca's growing irrelevance
SR ,   NYC   (02.15.07)
Nahum! Hello? Why are you so surprised? 6 years of Bush presidency laid the solid foundation for America's demise as the dominant world power. In the remaining two Bush years, America will continue to solidify its "has been" status. Jews are supposed to be smart? Then why has Israel seemingly put all her eggs in one basket - America? Why does Israel continue to mindlessly ape America in nearly every facet of life? Have you all gone insane in Israel?
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