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Zeiler Commission slams senior police officials
Aviram Zino
Published: 18.02.07, 14:54
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1. Karadi can crush skulls of the lovers of thel and
Ben Temalion ,   Shiloh, MO USA   (02.18.07)
Where is the heart in this? There is no condemnation of the organized crime against those who love the land that protects you. Crushing of skulls and breaking of limbs, the violationn of genitals of those who love the land that protects you is not the question? You bring them down only for what? Ecstasy, slave trade? What was the problem? Karadi, Naveh should all go away for a long time for the deaths they cause for their hatred for the land that protects you and those that love it.
2. Whats happening to Israel?
(02.18.07)
Why is it that where ever the Jews have lived they have brought prosperity and success to their host nations through their hard work, and yet in Israel everything is falling apart? The police are incompetent, the army is in poor condition, there are no competent leaders available to the public, successes in comparison to diaspora Jewry are weak. What is wrong with Israel?
3. Dissengagement criminals fall 1 by 1
Daniel ,   Tekoa   (02.18.07)
4. TO NR2
DAVID ,   JUDEA   (02.18.07)
What is happening here,is that the the israelis are reaping,what they have sowed. They created the israeli state not based on our laws but on foreign laws and principles. The whole system is based on falsehoods and the foundation is rotting away. What you see is the slow collapse of house based on principles that do not belong in this land. Karadi is just one of many who run a system that is lacking in many ways and has no basis on judaism.
5. Answer to #2
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (02.18.07)
The minute "Jews" became "Israelis" everything fell apart. The Jew was connected to Torah, morality, religion, and most importantly, G-d. The modern Israeli is divorced from his Jewish roots, became attracted to irreligious Western modes of behavior and thought, secularized and most importantly, cut himself off from his holy Jewish roots. He knows not the G-d of his forefathers. Israel has became a state of secular Israelis, and is not a Torah-Jewish state.
6. police
sas ,   israel   (02.18.07)
THET SHOULD ALL GO HOME QUICKLY. OHLMERT SHOULD BE NEXT IN LINE.
7. "Foreign ideas" are not the problem
Raymond from DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (02.18.07)
It's not the adoption of "foreign ideas" that is the problem. Did not the sages say, "If you hear of wisdom among the Gentiles, seek it out."? A healthy adoption of such wisdom, where appropriate, could only help. The greater problem is the lack of true accountability. Israel's early foundations were based on secular, socialist notions. So rather than Fear of G-d, there was only fear of the Party. Israel has never had a true democracy, as there is no accountability to the public or the voter. Rather its democracy is mediated by the party system. The system of protectzia - connections - undermined both the merit system and the rule of law. Lacking a system of checks and balances, with each branch of government holding the others to task, each branch instead gets away with whatever it can. Parliamentary immunity demonstrates that some are "more equal than others", while the entitlements of "exempt" classes (Arabs, ultra-orthodox) undermines social coherence and the balance of rights and obligations. I'm not a revolutionary by nature, but a root and branch reform is long overdue. Tinkering around the edges will not suffice.
8. #'s 1 to 5 - You are all missing the point!
We the People ,   The Galilee, Israel   (02.18.07)
You are so busy in your bewailing the failure of adherence to Jewish principles and whining about the Disengagement, that you fail to see that you, the people of the State of Israel, have, by your apathy, allowed this state of affairs to arise! You sit in your homes, criticize, moan and groan but fail to force your so called representatives, whether they are left, right, secular or religious, to get off their butts and DO something about stopping the rampant corruption in the government, the civil service and the police! The police have to be reformed starting today! Earlier on I saw policeman committ two traffic violations which would have resulted in the disqualification of a mere mortal's driver's license! The police think that they are above the law. Justice Zeiler has proved them wrong but only you, Mr. Israeli, can make the Knesset do its job! Karadi MUST RESIGN NOW! Two Commission Members are on the record of saying "let him finish his term”. NO! Minister Ezra stated today on Knesset TV that it will take time to appoint a New Inspector -General. No, Minister, there is no time for more delays. ACT NOW!!!
9. To 2 through 5
Ehud ,   Raanana   (02.18.07)
Your are blinded by religious fanaticism. Therefore you are incapable of appreciating (secular) Israels achievements just as the Muslim Fundamentalists cannot appreciate the achievements of modern Western society. Everything falling appart? Largest GDP growth rate in the West, 0 inflation, unemployment receding way below European average. Second highest number of patents in the field of electronics and biotechnology world wide (absolute, not relative!). Excellent health care system with second lowest mortality from heart attacks world wide (after Japan, not the US). Second highest life expectancy world wide. 8 nobel prize winners (we started with a population of 600.000!), 4 of them just during the last 2 years. The only country with a functioning antiballistic missile system (at least basic). A judiciary system capable of cleansing society from corruption. What are you talking about and where the heck are you living?
10. #9 Perception is reality...
Yankel ,   Quebec   (02.18.07)
Till such time that Israel is percieved to be a fair and just state where religious freedom for Jews is respected and where religious Jews are respected I will keep my big fat ass along with my money in Quebec thank-you very much. Till such time that thugs such as Sharon his son and the other criminals are put away and forgotton.I will stay put and let you stew in that soup of dreck In quebec we may not have nobel prize winners but we brew a damn good beer. Besides we have poutine which you have no idea about,..Keep the shwarma dreck along with that humous. I'll stay with my smoked meat and fries any day.
11. what is required to have true leaders
chaim ,   miami beach usa   (02.19.07)
The Jews Have been exiled from their homeland for such a long time and every generation since then had one calamity after another is. Not because they did not follow G-Ds law as laid out in the torah not even their conversion to different beliefs, BUT because their was no cohesive tolerant society, their was no respect one for the other, so all the misconceived reasons for the current dilemma the JEWs that live in Israel are facing is not due to the leaders are not Torah abiding. NOT even the secular laws that were adopted and are currently enforced in Israel, if any of you have ever studied Judaic history even during the time of the first Bait Hamikdash, a majority of the Jews did not even identify themselves as Jews, yet God’s wreath did not descend upon them, what did bring such wrath was the unreasonable, undeserved, and without any reason, the hatred, intolerance, bigotry, against each other. If Israel is to survive the pending catastrophic all consuming devastation to engulf the world by the Islamic cancer that is spreading and terrifying the worlds leaders, the nation of Israel must learn to peacefully resolve their differences and banish the terrible emotion of hatred towards his fellow Jew simply because he does not subscribe to his religious behavior and follows a different way. The Jewish sages have equated the emotion of hate to, serving a false god. If you do not like your current leaders, you must believe that they will be gone from the scene by their own conduct, as some of you have noted almost all leaders that instituted or enforced either Oslo or the destruction of the Jewish communities are slowly leaving their positions in shame. There is no greater power in the entire world then love and tolerance, it transcends any and all other powers. As Rabbi Hillel proclaimed Love your friend as you love yourself, that is the main focus of the Torah, the rest is just explanations .
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