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Lebanon shoots at Israeli UAV
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Published: 21.02.07, 17:47
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31. for Ali
anti ali ,   Israel   (02.21.07)
If it wasnt for Olmert, there would be no Lebanon right now (together with Hizbullah) You should thank him. All Israelis should unite in kicking him out of PM seat.
32. #4 , 5 &22 , Your understanding of the
Joe ,   USA   (02.21.07)
situation on hand is absurd. When God called out for "brains" you thought he called out for "trains" , and so you took the SLOW ONE....
33. If America failed to protect neighbors...
Ima Bleever ,   Anytown USA   (02.21.07)
... the world would come down on us like a ton of bricks. So why doesn't that happen to Lebanon or the mini-nation of Gaza when people use THEIR countries as a launching pad for death? Imagine Mexico's reaction to some scumbag hiding in the USA and firing so much as a "pop bottle rocket" (a tiny toy firecracker) into Mexico. Why can't Israel be so inflamed by the equal injustice of their neighbors? I repeat until my electronic lips fall off... It is LEBANON's duty to patrol Lebanon's cities and countryside to ensure that no weapons of ANY kind are fired upon ANYBODY in ANY direction without the full blessings of the Lebanese government and her police. Lebanon FAILED in Lebanon's duty to the peace of planet Earth. Lebanon should cease to exist if it happens again. The same is true for Gaza. The same is true for ANY country that is too wimpy to contol its people and its borders. Picture a loud BANG happening in BEDOUIN lands. Those people would be on you faster than a fly to dung. That is the kind of action I'm looking for from the Lebanese and Gaza governments. That is the kind of self-policing I need to see before I can keep the vomit down when I hear Arabs crying like babies about how big bully Israel overpowered Allah and muscled its way into Muslim lands "without provocation". Yeah, right. Where are your crocodile tears for the dead Israeli women and children? THEY are the reason Israel went into Lebanon. Or is your memory as short as your manhood?
34. Responses
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (02.21.07)
To some of those who say that it is alright to keep flying jets so low over Lebanon because Hizb is rearming, there are a few points that need to be made. 1- In Israel, arms are being smuggled via tunnels all the time, are you able to control that? What do you propose? Bomb, bomb, bomb? Who are you going to bomb? Did that get you anywhere in Lebanon? You have only caused us grief and suffering for years and haven't achieved anything in the process. 2- According to resolution 1701, there is to be no crossing of the blue line by either side whatsoever. So the Lebanese army is justified in firing warning shots. Your jets came very close inland (to Sour - Tyre), and were flying alarmingly low. If our side crosses to your side, you are free to retaliate as well. 3- Why do you keep arguing about keeping this tiny piece of land, the Shebaa farms. What is it to you? Perhaps if it were split in half that would solve the problem. After all, Lebanon is much smaller than Israel, and the Lebanese people have only one Lebanon. Or do you want to keep a pretext that will allow you to launch another war? 4- How is it that before the war, all the residences up in the north of Israel were equipped with shelters? If HA had wanted a war, had been planning for one, don't you think they'd have provided their families with shelters? So who in your mind started this war? 5- The Lebanese army are gradually locating stashes of weaponry and confiscating them. But rest assured, they will use the same weapons to attack any aggressor. Just as you can talk about self defense so can we. 6- Many Lebanese today are neither pro-Hizb nor pro-gov, but they are calling for new elections, for a free and just country, whose only military force is its army. Yes, we have not been able to rule our Lebanon for a long time, but in time we will.
35. One more thing
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (02.21.07)
Just as you feel empathy for your brothers and sisters in the Jewish diaspora, we also feel empathy for our Palestinian brothers and sisters who are homeless, who are refugees, who are not welcomed in any country. Even the Lebanese government is not willing to this day to give most of the Palestinians citizenship. And I have wonderful Palestinian friends in Lebanon who can't even secure a job. Why? Because few Lebanese are willing to employ them. The fault lies with those who are smuggling weapons to this and that group, in an attempt to wrest power, to increase hostility. Sadly, our country has been fractured in the past and to this day there are people who don't wish to see the Lebanese unite. Does this not strike you as odd? Which countries would benefit? Why, let us start counting. But we lose count because there are so many. Doesn't it just madden you, that this timy piece of land is so coveted, that it can't be left alone? The solution is so simple, but it's so hard at the same time. To forgive, to really want peace, to disarm, to give back land, exchange prisoners. And the next step, to exchange culture and tradition, to mix, to communicate. The world's problem is lack of communication.
36. Dear Mark 28
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (02.21.07)
You are referring to Lebanon but you must be thinking of your motherland.
37. Oh really, 31 and 32?
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (02.22.07)
31- the typical response from someone who only cares to kill, kill, kill: if we Israelis hadn't exercised restraint, all you Lebanese would be dead by now. How kind you are to have spared us and killed only 2500 and counting up. How kind and brave to just bomb us from the sky with zero planning, zero strategy. You really gained our respect and our humble fear...NOT! 32- yeah, maybe we got slow trains, but you got the tail end my friend
38. #35 re Palestinians
Lebanese ,   New Zealand   (02.22.07)
The Palestinians caused the war in Lebanon in 1975 after we had been kind to them and took them in. They took the country from comparison with Switzerland to comparison with Somalia. They killed, raped and tortured thousands of Lebanese. Even today, they fight with the army and it cannot enter their places. The Palestinians in Lebanon are the real state within a state, and not the Hezbollah. The Sunnis should stop dreaming of giving them citizenship. If it happens, there will be war. And it will be all real Lebanese against the Palestinians and their backers. And we haven't forgotten the previous war, so we will not be as humane as last time. After that war is quickly finished, after which all Palestinians will have disappeared from Lebanon one way or another, we will proceed to federalise Lebanon. What do you think all the arms coming in to the country are really for? Once this all happens, the millions of Lebanese abroad can begin to come and take back their rights in their country, rights stolen from them by the Palestinians and their backers. What you should be pushing for is a return of the Palestinians to the West Bank, Gaza, Jordan, and the rest of the Arab countries. At least those countries are rich and can afford the 500,000 Palestinians, and are big enough to hold them all. Lebanon has suffered enough for the Palestinians, much more than its fair share. Its problems will only begin to be alleviated once they are gone, partly because of the problems they create, and partly because they take orders from Syria. The Palestinian occupation of Lebanon must end! Phoenicia for the Phoenicians! Lebanon for the true Lebanese! The true Lebanese are Phoenicians! Long live Lebanon!
39. open your eyes
leb ,   canada   (02.22.07)
i suggest that you go and do some research about who has been the attacker in all arab-israeli conflicts. go read more about the efforts of "Israel" to destroy lebanon. I don't know about you but to me it seems pretty retarded that Israeli troops killed more than 1000 Lebanese civilians and claim that they are "defending themselves". open your eyes people and be honest with yourselves for a minute. there's no way you'll get the truth from believing everything Olmert says. and as for the Lebanese army firing on an Israeli UAV, Lebanon has the right to defend itself. Israel should respect UN resolution 1701. When Israel begins treating Lebanese and Palestinian people like human beings and stop abusing their rights i think this world will be a much better place.
40. to #39 and libneniyyeh
HEZBOLLAH   (02.22.07)
thank you for those talkbacks, and i hope they bring some sense into the other people around here. but unfortuneatly i doubt it. zionists have a tendency to to believe what ever they want to believe. you are both completly right in your speeches, and i hope god blesses you both for your logic.
41. To # 16 open up your mind...
Casey ,   Germany   (02.22.07)
Funny how you critize one country but ignore the other you said that "They terrorize innocent civilians .." yeah you think Israeli don't do that they are the one who started that business, they did stole the land, where was jewss land when Germans were teaching them a lesson....
42. #39-41...you have no mind to open!
DR ,   Florida, USA   (02.22.07)
Isarel did not start the last war. This is a fact. Hizballah, a terror group that fires rockets from behind women and children, started the affair by crossing into Israeli territory. Ofcourse Israel is going to retaliate when threatened, so why are you whining like little girls??? And for casey's remark, dude are you a Nazi? How do people like you still exist? Everythint isarel does is in response to Muslim aggression. Israel was attacked by seven retarded countries and kicked their asses (probably because Arabs are not so smart) and then these same countries have the nerve to cry about it??? Dude, your culture, your people, everything about it is pathetic!!!
43. New Zealand Lebanese
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (02.22.07)
Looks like you're one of those Lebanese with a tad of a superiority complex. Even the Patriarch will tell you Lebanese are Arabs. Arabs are not necessarily Muslims. They are Arabs because they speak Arabic. Phoenicians are extinct, even if they were our ancestors. So anyway, let us meet halfway and just be Lebanese. If you read my talkback carefully, you'd understand that I condemn the possession of weapons by ANY group. Yes, Palestinians have no right to conduct their battles on our land. But then neither does any other militant group. And all the weapons come from outside countries who want to see Lebanon fractured. This was the point I was making. Furthermore, if you follow the news in Lebanon you will know that not too long ago there was a governmental envoy sent to Palestinian quarters in Lebanon, and the officials were shocked to discover in what miserable conditions these people lived. So what is wrong with granting them citizenship, giving them decent jobs? Wont that improve the country? Some people have been there for so long and have no where else to go. Dont you think that giving them jobs will be beneficial to our economy and will also lessen the degree of hostility? Dont you think it will take their minds off more destructive pastimes? Not all people are thugs, as you seem to imagine. A lot of people are very decent, intelligent, and have been in the country for the second generation but still have little or no opportunity to get anywhere. You talk about the Palestinian occupation of Lebanon? That is not very bright. Have you forgotten that the Syrians occuppied Lebanon for over thirty years? And have you forgotten what they did in our country? And have you forgotten who let them in? I dont understand why the basic Lebanese will refuse to work in menial labour in his own counrty but will run to do so in other countries. And so you have all those labourers from other countries rushing in to do that work. I regret to inform you that it is our pride and superiority that has led us into this situation. I dont know about you, but bombs or no bombs I can't wait to get back home.
44. to #25
Casey ,   Germany   (02.22.07)
"Israel is not arrogant, they are just fighting for their lives...." HOW? .by killing other inncent childern? Attacking other nation to domanate world?
45. To # 26
Casey ,   germany   (02.22.07)
the reality is that you are sided with a terror group.
46. #45, Casey, you need a map...
DR ,   Florida, USA   (02.22.07)
How can one person be filled with so much BS? Israel wants to dominate the world? Are you really that dumb? Have you seen a map of the middle east? Israel is tiny, surrounded by huge Arab nations. Get real man, your pathetic analysis of Israel's aggresion is weak and holds no water. Again, we see Hamas' military wing declare that the "truce" with Israel is over. Basically they are going to continue firing rockets and using suicide bombs as weapons, and you think this is ok? Dude, go get a check up, you need help!!!
47. Who can stop them?
Someone ,   Beirut, Lebanon   (02.22.07)
The only group of people who can stop HA is the Sinoria government with the help of anti-Syrian countries. Without this HA will countinue to grow. Israel will countinue to fly over southern Lebanon, no one can stop them. If you ask me, I don't care if they fly their aircraft over Lebanon, however, if they begin to start bombing areas, then that is a different story. HA can only be demolished if the Sinoria government, who I support, steps in.
48. #12........
someone ,   beirut, lebanon   (02.22.07)
You sound more intelligant with your mouth shut.
49. You tell 'em, Libneniyyeh
Damir ,   Russia   (02.22.07)
Only the Lebanese government has a right to keep an order in your country. But nobody likes the weak. It seems to me here lies a point where Russia should concentrate its efforts on the Middle East. The same goes for U.S.
50. #42 DR. idiot
HEZBOLLAH   (02.22.07)
you have set new hights for your people and isrealis. before i thought you were power hungry people with no feelings, but now i think you are stupid power hungry cold hearted people. THIS is a fact. isreal was gathering along the border preparing to attack. what kind of a country goes to war for 2 people? the kind that wants war! everything isreal does is in response to muslim aggresion huh? you are an IDIOT. isreal does what it wants, and doesnt care about the others. your country america, oh wow it is so great and smart right! george bush is on the pinicle of human genius. is that why you lost in vietnam and losing now in iraq, when all they had where garden tools and semi automatic pistols? your country is disgusting, highest crime rates in the world, distroying the world with pollution, and give isreal everything they want. you my mentally challenged friend are nothing but an idiot, a stupid caveman power hungry fool with the country to back you up. go get a book and read something, or go to school DR, because you are pathetic. if you are this ignorant all the time than some one soon will definetly teach you a thing or 2.
51. I never thought i would say this but i agree with the Hezguy
AR ,   USA   (02.23.07)
52. Thank you everyone who agrees with my points.
AR ,   USA   (02.23.07)
53. DR sometime you make a good point.
AR ,   USA   (02.23.07)
But most of the time you are talking out of your ass. You really have no idea what you are talking about. Funny how a guy in lebonan knows more about your own country than you do. Seriously start reading it will help you out. Florida i know man its hard to be smart over there but you can do it i truley believe if you would get the propoganda out of your brain you might start and look at things from another perspective. When i was young like 12 i used to love Israel I thought wow one country stood up to all the other countries that wanted to destroy (especially since i was very interested in WW2 and I felt horrible about what the Nazi's did) but as i grew (read) and started exploring different opinions i realized that Israel and the Arab nations are all crazy Israel isnt indeginous no matter what zionist propoganda tells you sorry but its true. What about the canaanites huh. come on read the story is even in your precious bible maybe if you read that you might understand that jews werent always in Israel.
54. #43 Libneniyyeh (1)
Lebanese ,   New Zealand   (02.23.07)
It's unfortunate how little you know about your countrymen. Unfortunately, I will have to say a few things you may not like to hear. Your Mohammad said that speaking Arabic makes one Arab. That is simply ridiculous, unless you also believe that speaking French makes one French and speaking English makes one English. Or maybe you actually do believe that an Indonesian who speaks Arabic is therefore an Arab. In that case, Arab is a meaningless term. But it isn't, for it is taken as a racial designator. And however you spin it, most Lebanese are not Arabs, even the Sunnis. The most obvious indicator of this is appearance: most Lebanese simply do not look like Arabs. Compare a Lebanese person to one from Saudi Arabia or the Gulf and you'll easily see what I mean. DNA testing has proven this, that most Lebanese are in fact the descendants of the Phoenicians, and that they share common DNA with people on other former Phoenician colonies. Furthermore, the Arabic we speak may as well be a completely different language to the Arabic the Saudis, Egyptians and northern Africans speak. The reason for this is that up until about a hundred years ago, Lebanon's Christians did not speak Arabic but spoke Aramaic, and the influence is found in Lebanon's spoken language. Attempting to make everyone Arab, especially when they are not, is simply cultural genocide. It is whitewashing your very own history and culture, the very acts many accuse the Jews of doing to the Palestinians in Israel. The only reason you engage in it is because you are Muslim and have been brainwashed by the teachings of Mohammed. You fail to see how you are ignoring your own history and culture. That is why many of our new Lebanese brethren (only Lebanese since Hariri's death - they were happy Syrians before then) have no sense of identity, history or purpose. All they know is that they are Arab because they speak Arabic, defying all logic and reason, purely because the Koran told them so. Nonetheless, I am glad that you are happy to be Lebanese. It took some people more than 50 years but I am glad they came around. I only hope that when Bashar Assad is deposed they won't become Syrians again.
55. #43 Libneniyyeh (2)
Lebanese ,   New Zealand   (02.23.07)
I am also glad that you condemn the possession of weapons by all groups. I hope that you would also support the army if it decided to clean up the camps and remove the arms from the Palestinians. I also hope that you realise Hezbollah's weapons were supported by the government only as recently as last year. After all, they are sacred weapons, weapons of the resistance, and all that mumbo jumbo that your government put in the bayen wizari. So let's have a new government, one that is not full of corrupt Syrian collaborators (Hariri, Jumblatt, Saniora, Hizbollah and co) and one with a new bayen to solve the problem of Hezbollah's weapons. That the Palestinians live in miserable conditions is simply their fault. After the wars and troubles they have put Lebanon through, they can sit there and take it or can leave to another country. I cannot believe you are even asking what is wrong with granting them citizenship. First, they are not Lebanese. Second, they caused problems in Lebanon and have done nothing to solve any of them. Third, they are still armed. Fourth, the country is too small and Lebanese abroad are more deserving of the places these thugs are taking. Fifth, the many unemployed Lebanese are more worthy of jobs than this lot. Sixth, they can leave to any Arab country and fit in better, especially Jordan. Seventh, they are not loyal to Lebanon and have not been loyal or courteous as guests. They hardly deserve being rewarded. Eighth, it will put them off their fight to liberate their homeland. They cannot do it from Lebanon. Let's ship them to Syria or Jordan so that they can get to the West Bank or Gaza Strip to do their thing. Ninth, they are Syrians. They are a fifth column. They are an occupying power not loyal to the country. If they want decent jobs, let them go abroad like the many thousands of young Lebanese, or are they somehow more deserving of a job in Lebanon than the Lebanese youth? We can kill two birds with one stone: less Palestinians with Lebanon, while they can get a decent job and better quality of life abroad. Yes, I do talk about a Palestinian occupation of Lebanon, one that has brought untold misery to millions of Lebanese. They are the real Syrian agents in Lebanon. They are Al Qaeda in Lebanon. They are Hamas in Lebanon. They are the foreign terrorists in Lebanon, still occupying this country. How dare you even attempt to lecture me about the Syrian occupation of Lebanon. I have not forgotten who they fought with, against whom, and who suffered at their hands. I have not forgotten who collaborated with the Syrians while young Christians were rounded up and disappeared. It was your beloved Hariri, Jumblatt, Saniora, Berri, Nasrallah and the rest of the terrorists in our government that collaborated with the Syrians against their countrymen. And they will probably do it again once Assad is deposed. But the Syrian troops and spies are out for now, so let's stop blaming them for absolutely everything that happens at the hands of this incompetent, corrupt government. Personally, I don't know of the Lebanese you are talking about that run to do menial labour in other countries. I know Lebanese doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers, students and businessmen abroad. I don't think I've met a Lebanese labourer abroad. Actually, I wouldn't mind if we gave the Palestinians the menial jobs that the Lebanese don't want to do, provided they can compete on rates with the other labourers from overseas. As I said before, Lebanon for the Lebanese. All foreign occupations must end: Palestinian, Syrian, Israeli. Only then can the millions of Lebanese abroad all begin to come back home, whether Christian, Muslim or Jew.
56. New Zealand Lebanese
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (02.23.07)
Im not attacking you, brother. I was trying to be realistic. Anyway, peace for Lebanon.
57. Libneniyyeh
Judy Y ,   Los Angeles   (02.23.07)
This is the type of thing that Muslims, and particularly Muslim women, should be concerned about. This is happening in one way or another in all Arab countries. Women have to comply or they get hurt. That's no way to live. This obsession with Israel is unhealthy. There is too much within Arab culture that needs attention. Please read this news item from Israel National News: "Gunmen killed a Pakistani minister and woman's activist because she refused to wear a veil. Zilla Huma Usman was killed immediately before she was to speak to party activists. Officials said the assassin believes she was dressed immodestly and that women should not be active in politics. Police arrested the murderer, who said, "I have no regrets. I just obeyed Allah’s commandment. I will kill all those women who do not follow the right path, if I am freed again."
58. #50 and AR...two peas in a pod...
DR ,   Florida, USA   (02.23.07)
Hezbollah...I have no clue why you're so angry? Is it because you and your terrorist friends are about to disappear fromt he face of the earth? you bring nothing but violence and hate to those aorund you and then you blame Israel for defending its borders...you're like a little whining girl. We here in the US have a mcuh better view of the world than you do. Education is better, media is better, everythingis better. As for AR, just the fact that you agree with this scumbag, shows us who you really are. You used to admire Israel, but then you started going to your local mosque and listening to the Imam spew hate about Jews and the state of Israel, huh? Read history indeed....Muslims and Palestinians weren't even around while Israelis inhabited Their land...get real man.
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